vmw
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It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
I received an email from cake that in part reads:
Unfortunately, it looks like your Rolling Updates membership expires in 30 days. You'll get to keep everything you've received during your membership, but you will stop receiving updates once this date is reached.
If you would like to continue receiving Rolling Updates for SONAR Platinum, simply renew your membership using the link below. For a limited time, you can get Lifetime Updates for SONAR Platinum. This means you'll continue to receive Rolling Updates, and you'll never need to renew or upgrade again!
The link goes directly to the buy lifetime update for Sonar Platinum - there is no choice to pay monthly membership.
So when monthly membership payments came in they were singing their praises and what a wonderful way to do business.
It seems fairly clear Cake are going to expand there selling of 3rd party software and extensions to the core. The problem with that is if you already own the 3rd party software you are most likely to get a better update price from the source.
If anyone has found out how to continue monthly payments specifically for Platinum then please reply.
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/02 05:12:37
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When I log in to the store, I still find the options for annual and monthly payments.
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/02 06:51:02
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vmw
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It seems fairly clear Cake are going to expand there selling of 3rd party software and extensions to the core. The problem with that is if you already own the 3rd party software you are most likely to get a better update price from the source.
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I agree with you about 3rd party software. In my case I bought Addictive Drums and the AD2 upgrade long before they were included in Sonar so in one sense I paid for them twice. The future of Sonar Core will be interesting to watch. With no direct revenue stream the Core may indeed be a vehicle for sales of their own extensions or third party extensions. It may be that the cost of ownership is lower than before but it is also possible that it will become even higher. In the past year I have been asked to pay $150 in 2015 and $199 in 2016 for Sonar. I decided to opt for a DAW that uses the old fashion pay-for-updates which are in the range of $50 to $100 annually. Cheers [nb. Edited for clarity ]
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/02 08:16:52
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☄ Helpfulby the0x 2016/07/07 05:39:52
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/02 12:01:01
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I don't understand how people go from this:
>For a limited time, you can get Lifetime Updates for SONAR Platinum
To this:
> The future of Sonar Core will be interesting to watch. With no direct revenue stream the Core may indeed be a vehicle for sales of their own extensions or third party extensions.
It's not like any of this is a mystery. September 1 can't come soon enough.
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/02 13:57:55
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vmw
The link goes directly to the buy lifetime update for Sonar Platinum - there is no choice to pay monthly membership.
So when monthly membership payments came in they were singing their praises and what a wonderful way to do business.
It seems fairly clear Cake are going to expand there selling of 3rd party software and extensions to the core. The problem with that is if you already own the 3rd party software you are most likely to get a better update price from the source.
If anyone has found out how to continue monthly payments specifically for Platinum then please reply.
Monthly payments are still available for platinum. While we are selling lifetime updates the annual option is not available (for platinum). I don't see how the cost of ownership would be higher with this. Any future payments once you have lifetime updates is 100% voluntary.
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/02 14:05:47
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
[...] While we are selling lifetime updates the annual option is not available (for platinum). [...]
The wording of this comment is ambiguous. After the life time update period expires, will the annual update option be re-instantiated, or will the monthly payment be the only option left?
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/02 14:41:06
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☄ Helpfulby jude77 2016/07/03 14:33:03
With all regards, this is a bit like looking the gift horse in the mouth.. after all, currently for the price of an annual update you get a lifetime of updates... why bother wanting to know anything else? IF and or when the lifetime update window closes, even assuming that annual updates are then available, the one thing that you can make a cast iron guarantee about is.. That there is zero chance that updates can ever be cheaper than they are right now, today. If someone is so hard up for cash that they can only afford a monthly update, then I suspect that any financial advisor on the planet (and i include wives/significant others) would say "put the lifetime update on a credit card".. Sometimes a good deal is simply a good deal. :) mettelus
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
[...] While we are selling lifetime updates the annual option is not available (for platinum). [...]
The wording of this comment is ambiguous. After the life time update period expires, will the annual update option be re-instantiated, or will the monthly payment be the only option left?
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/02 14:43:41
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mettelus
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
[...] While we are selling lifetime updates the annual option is not available (for platinum). [...]
The wording of this comment is ambiguous. After the life time update period expires, will the annual update option be re-instantiated, or will the monthly payment be the only option left?
There are no plans to exclusively have monthly payments for platinum. Not sure how you inferred that.
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/02 14:47:10
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mettelus
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
[...] While we are selling lifetime updates the annual option is not available (for platinum). [...]
The wording of this comment is ambiguous. After the life time update period expires, will the annual update option be re-instantiated, or will the monthly payment be the only option left?
I really don't think it is ambiguous at all. Whilst the lifetime update is available, who would want to pay for a year when you can get it for life? When the lifetime offer finishes, it will go back to normal yearly and monthly updates. People really are reading too much into this. If Cakewalk had a history of skulduggery, I could maybe understand, but they have always been straight with their customers.
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/02 15:20:34
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☄ Helpfulby jude77 2016/07/03 14:32:43
I will be becoming a lifer as soon as humanely possible. (it IS humanly possible, but it would be inhumane to have to skip feeding the cat for two weeks to get the lifetime deal today, versus a couple of weeks from now).
Cakewalk has ALWAYS been very fair minded, INCLUDING them trusting US to honor the agreement not to populate Sonar on all kinds of different computers - for all our friends - selling it out there on the web, whatever, so MY trust will be as it has ALWAYS been - to side with the notion that they will do what is right, under any and all circumstances, period.
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/02 15:26:43
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Bob - if it's the cat in your Avatar, it looks like he/she has some DJ skills. Put her to work earning the upgrade and you'll be a lifer before you can say "Deadmau5 Rulezzzz...."
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/03 07:08:14
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It can be very confusing. And all the chatter back and forth on this topic only adds to the confusion. This simple explanation by scook is how I understand it to be: scook
There are 2 payment options, a single payment in full and a 12 month payment plan. Upon completing 12 consecutive payments, those on the 12 month payment plan receive the same license as the users who purchased with the single payment option.
The only change to those options today is through Aug 31, the single payment plan now includes free updates for life. The monthly payment plan still available and the terms have not changed.
However, the "free updates for life" is only for Platinum.
post edited by soens - 2016/07/03 07:35:11
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vmw
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/03 07:22:17
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jb101
If Cakewalk had a history of skulduggery, I could maybe understand, but they have always been straight with their customers.
Well I notice there is no footnote on the order page saying you need not pay for MP3 if you have paid for it back in the days of pro audio. It is listed as an extra line item only. While that is not skulduggery, it is economical with the truth. Luckily is very easy to activate without having to pay twice.Or may be its lifetime payment has run out.
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/03 07:55:04
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I eventually found the monthly paid option which I could not get to by clicking the link in the email. I logged off and waited for the payment section before logging on to the site.
Some people seem to be wondering why not pay for the lifetime update, well for me it is a question of managing all the other subscriptions to other software - some there is no option to purchase (like Adobe ransom ware), and others there is a choice. Financially I find monthly payments suit my budget.
Given that I work full time as a composer and the current project is an electroacoustic work which is based on a person and has to be both viable as music only and to also work with modern art imagery on DVD or high quality by download.
So far my co-composer and I have worked on the project for 18 months plus and live mainly off royalties so lump sum payments are not as attractive to us who work full time in the field of the arts and not spend 5 days a week working in a job not related to their music and only work on weekends as a hobby.
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/03 08:05:37
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vmw
jb101
If Cakewalk had a history of skulduggery, I could maybe understand, but they have always been straight with their customers.
Well I notice there is no footnote on the order page saying you need not pay for MP3 if you have paid for it back in the days of pro audio. It is listed as an extra line item only. While that is not skulduggery, it is economical with the truth.
Luckily is very easy to activate without having to pay twice.
Or may be its lifetime payment has run out.
Paying twice ??? it wasn't an add on in pro audio. it was included free with that software. so you didn't pay for it then.
post edited by chuckebaby - 2016/07/03 08:30:45
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/03 10:05:33
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RD9
With no direct revenue stream the Core may indeed be a vehicle for sales of their own extensions or third party extensions. To say there is "no direct revenue stream" is simply wrong. There are always new users coming into the SONAR fold and paying for Platinum. Furthermore, there is still a revenue stream for Artist and Professional, which is another source of income for updating the program (remember, some updates benefit all versions). So Platinum users get a really good deal...well, that's a benefit of Platinum membership. In the past year I have been asked to pay $150 in 2015 and $199 in 2016 for Sonar. I decided to opt for a DAW that uses the old fashion pay-for-updates which are in the range of $50 to $100 annually. It seems to me that paying $50 - $100 annually for, say, 10 years ($500 - $1,000) is less expensive than updating Platinum for 10 years ($199).
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/03 13:19:47
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Anderton
It seems to me that paying $50 - $100 annually for, say, 10 years ($500 - $1,000) is less expensive than updating Platinum for 10 years ($199).
But you don't have the most powerful statement towards a vendor - your annual payment saying you are happy with how things are. If it happends to 10 000 users not renewing - vendor start asking themselves, what did we do wrong? There is potential risk a vendor never do that - if all is lifetime updates anyway. ImageLine was about 6 years after Sonar with 64-bit version - was this due to their lifetime policy? I'm not saying that is Cakewalk policy - probably people I trust more than many others with my money. But unless there is something of need for my own use - I do not open wallet - and that is a statement lost, if signing up for life. I hope Mac version turns out really well in all venues of audio industry. Probably very smart move. 
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/03 14:12:14
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Mystic38
With all regards, this is a bit like looking the gift horse in the mouth.. after all, currently for the price of an annual update you get a lifetime of updates... why bother wanting to know anything else?
IF and or when the lifetime update window closes, even assuming that annual updates are then available, the one thing that you can make a cast iron guarantee about is.. That there is zero chance that updates can ever be cheaper than they are right now, today.
If someone is so hard up for cash that they can only afford a monthly update, then I suspect that any financial advisor on the planet (and i include wives/significant others) would say "put the lifetime update on a credit card"..
Sometimes a good deal is simply a good deal. :)
mettelus
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
[...] While we are selling lifetime updates the annual option is not available (for platinum). [...]
The wording of this comment is ambiguous. After the life time update period expires, will the annual update option be re-instantiated, or will the monthly payment be the only option left?
YES!!!! robert_e_bone
I will be becoming a lifer as soon as humanely possible. (it IS humanly possible, but it would be inhumane to have to skip feeding the cat for two weeks to get the lifetime deal today, versus a couple of weeks from now).
Cakewalk has ALWAYS been very fair minded, INCLUDING them trusting US to honor the agreement not to populate Sonar on all kinds of different computers - for all our friends - selling it out there on the web, whatever, so MY trust will be as it has ALWAYS been - to side with the notion that they will do what is right, under any and all circumstances, period.
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/03 16:12:08
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Let's see if I got this right. I was paying 199 a year for annual updates. Cw offered lifetime if I did it b4 cutoff date at 99. I saved 99 1st year and seeing as how I wil be saving at least 100 py untill... I plan on going anothe 30 years (at least!) thats 3000. hmm. lets see...... Now understand I am polish.....(self defacing joke)
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/03 18:07:20
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lfm
Anderton
It seems to me that paying $50 - $100 annually for, say, 10 years ($500 - $1,000) is less expensive than updating Platinum for 10 years ($199).
But you don't have the most powerful statement towards a vendor - your annual payment saying you are happy with how things are.
If it happends to 10 000 users not renewing - vendor start asking themselves, what did we do wrong?
There is potential risk a vendor never do that - if all is lifetime updates anyway.
ImageLine was about 6 years after Sonar with 64-bit version - was this due to their lifetime policy?
I'm not saying that is Cakewalk policy - probably people I trust more than many others with my money.
But unless there is something of need for my own use - I do not open wallet - and that is a statement lost, if signing up for life.
I hope Mac version turns out really well in all venues of audio industry. Probably very smart move.
You are completely overlooking the need for any software company to gain new users, not just old ones. ImageLine waiting 6 years for 64bit just shows they were not cutting edge trying to get new users. Sonar has a long history of rolling out things either before or at the same time as others. They still plan on monthly updates, so they are clearly focused on remaining relevant. ImageLine did not have that same model. And sonar offering lifetime updates is clearly a move to get new users and new users are going to be looking for solid/tested and cutting edge.
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/03 18:43:24
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**warning this is only my personal opinion**
I believe sonar will roll out a new DAW sooner or later in a few years maybe not.
but if they do...if they do, they will still be doing updates to sonar, maybe not big ones, but still updating. they have made a promise and they will keep it.
I've never, ever known cakewalk to be dishonest with its user base. never.
also going to a MAC version will bring in new revenue.
possibly more plug ins will be a route they try and take advantage of as well.
even IF sonar rolls out a new DAW in a few years... you will all still have got your moneys worth.
I trust this company more than any other out there. probably more than any company I've ever done business with.
any time there's been a speed bump, cakewalk has released a patch or an update to fix the issue.
more often than not, quickly and productively.
im not a fan boy, I simply like doing business with cakewalk and I always have.
I haven't always been pleased with features or changes, but I've never known them to screw their users.
you have to have a little faith and trust them that they are doing the right thing. stick to making good music and let cakewalk do what they do....make the software that enables you to make that good music.
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/03 18:57:58
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I have read a lot of these posts and still can't understand what the problem is. Cakewalk is giving current members a great discount on their software to thank the current members and also to introduce the coming of the Sonar OSX software. Truely something to celebrate. If you are a new member , you can get the lifetime Sonar for $199,00. New members will also profit from this. They also have given the monthly subscription members the chance to get on board as wel with almost a 3 month time period to be able to pay for this. For those who don't want the lifetime upgrade also have no problems because at the end of August the membership will go back to annual/monthly payments as before. The only thing I can see is that everyone is now stuck on the lifetime one time payment as if that is the end of the road and how will they make any money after that, while after August 31 everything goes back to regular payments and they will be making enough money for the company to survive for the next 50 years at least. I don't see the problem.
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/03 19:31:21
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jb101
If Cakewalk had a history of skulduggery, I could maybe understand, but they have always been straight with their customers.
Well I notice there is no footnote on the order page saying you need not pay for MP3 if you have paid for it back in the days of pro audio. It is listed as an extra line item only. While that is not skulduggery, it is economical with the truth.
Luckily is very easy to activate without having to pay twice.
Or may be its lifetime payment has run out.
Where to start? 1. If that is the worst case that you can find to accuse Cakewalk of "skulduggery", then it proves my point. 2. How do you think Cakewalk profits fro this heinous "skulduggery"? That money does not profit Cakewalk at all, but is passed on to pay for the licence for the MP encoder. 3. If what Chucklebaby said is true (I wasn't around in the Pro Audio days), then you would have only paid once for the MP3 encoder, and Cakewalk would have earned nothing from either transaction. 4. vmw
It is listed as an extra line item only.
So, it is listed, then? IDK - Cakewalk as a company has always shown itself to be ethical, and loyal to it's user base. edited for clarity/grammer
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/03 19:47:56
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RD9
I agree with you about 3rd party software. In my case I bought Addictive Drums and the AD2 upgrade long before they were included in Sonar so in one sense I paid for them twice.
Yes you paid for AD2 twice. And now you have two licenses so you can install the software on two computers. And, oh yeah, you got Sonar and everything else for FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Explain how you should feel sad in any way?
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/03 22:09:24
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jb101
1. If that is the worst case that you can find to accuse Cakewalk of "skulduggery", then it proves my point.
READ what I wrote "...While that is not skulduggery..... Calm down and comprehend what is written by people. I assume the majority of us are going to continue using Sonar - all people are doing in non help requests are expressing concerns, impressions, attitudes - the pros and cons. This forum is gold to cake, marketing and their ultimate owners. jb101
2. How do you think Cakewalk profits fro this heinous "skulduggery"? That money does not profit Cakewalk at all, but is passed on to pay for the licence for the MP encoder. READ the my last comment in this post and tell me how this license works when you can continue to unlock the MP3 encoder - perhaps that is a lifetime license. chuckebaby Paying twice ??? it wasn't an add on in pro audio. it was included free with that software.
so you didn't pay for it then. Well I am not to sure about it being free as opposed to being part of the purchase price because if you bought the Pro Audio product and then upgraded to the next version you could email cake and they would kindly send you a small utility to unlock MP3 and that was for free.
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/03 22:28:51
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vmw
Well I notice there is no footnote on the order page saying you need not pay for MP3 if you have paid for it back in the days of pro audio.
vmw
Well I am not to sure about it being free as opposed to being part of the purchase price
well which is it  im not even sure I understand your point. but any rate. just make good music man. the encoder was included with Pro Audio. yes it was free. I know because I began on Pro Audio 9. I believe that was back in the early 1700's.
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/04 01:23:16
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☄ Helpfulby FCCfirstclass 2016/07/07 12:01:27
Brando
Bob - if it's the cat in your Avatar, it looks like he/she has some DJ skills. Put her to work earning the upgrade and you'll be a lifer before you can say "Deadmau5 Rulezzzz...."
I would, but she only plays Cat Scratch Fever and anything by the Stray Cats - AND she has a $1000 a week CATNIP habit, and I think she may be selling off some of my gear - or maybe my audio engineering son is building his new studio at the same time mine seems to have less and less gear. Hmmmmmmmm :) Bob Bone
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/04 12:07:06
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I upgraded to Platimum from X3 in February of 2016 using the monthly payment option. My understanding, which I believe to be correct, was that I was signing up to make twelve monthly payments, after which time I would own Platinum including all rolling updates received during that twelve months, whether I renewed monthly payments or not. However, now after having made only five of the twelve payments, I received the email telling me my subscription would expire on Aug 3. Checking my account membership details indeed shows the expiration date of my subscription to be Aug 3. I'm confused as to what my status will be at that time.
If I do not renew my subscription or purchase lifetime updates by that time, will I own Platinum and all the updates I've received since subscribing or not? If not and I choose to renew the monthly subscription, will I then need to make twelve more payments before I actually own any version of Platinum? When I signed up, my understanding was that I agreed to make twelve monthly payments, no more and no less, to then own outright Platinum and all updates issued during that twelve month period. It is not clear to me now that this option is now available, but again, I believe that to be the terms of the offer to which I agreed.
Can someone from Cakewalk please clarify this matter?
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Re: It appears the only choice is to pay the lifetime update
2016/07/04 15:21:58
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Brian Walton
You are completely overlooking the need for any software company to gain new users, not just old ones. There is nothing like: a) features(that you really need now) b) reliability c) maintenance d) listen to user feedback(features you want eventually) e) affordable that sells a product. When I eventually tested FL Studio they did not have the features part - so no purchase. I did not care one bit that lifetime updates of something that is not doing the job to start with. It's enough that one of those rules do not apply to a product/vendor. Even Avid with ProTools thinking they had the market in their palm had to eventually fold to these rules. For a year they thought they could dictate anything - and everybody would have to pay for life. Not until report after report showed dropping results and stock dropped from $18->$8 were they reacting. Today, not even ProTools is out of pricerange for most people - just about what Platinum costs. It used to be different.
Sonar has a long history of rolling out things either before or at the same time as others. They still plan on monthly updates, so they are clearly focused on remaining relevant. And sonar offering lifetime updates is clearly a move to get new users and new users are going to be looking for solid/tested and cutting edge.
History so far has shown very little, if anything at all, of what is top voted on Features & Ideas forum is ever implemented. So why have lifetime updates of something that is never going to implement things that you want down the line. But 2015 was spectacular with Sonar updates, no doubt. But was anything from topvoted user requests implemented - not that I saw. Maybe my reasoning is different from most and Sonar4Life will be a hit, even in the long run. I'm sure it's a hit right now just introduced. And those that sought after a Mac version probably buckle up for life too. Rule d) is what worries me about Sonar....every time topvoted feature request come up for discussion, it's in complete denial from Cakewalk these are fair requests....or doable...or any excuse they can find. So since I'm not signed up for life - my wallet is closed - screaming a statement of discontent.
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