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2011/08/30 17:06:24 (permalink)

It can't be happening to me... OMG!

So here I am sitting in front on my X1 screen with a look of disbelief on my face and a question mark bigger than my... ego. This was THE tune, THE mix! I've been having dreams of stardom lately because of it (slight exageration here...). Took a break from mixing for a few days and opened up the project for a fresh listen. This dosen't sound right at all??? I can't hear the kick, snare and hi-hats. Literally. I mean the meters are active, the plugin is looking good but there's no sound at all from those tracks. My acoustic guitar track is also silent. I've been jinxed, or voodoo'ed. I can't believe this is happening to me. Others, OK... but to me?? Some twisted curse must of been incanted by jealous evildoers. Dramatic? Yes. But the things that go through one's mind before managing to take a deep breath and relax, can be... well, absurd and comical at the same time. There was a simple explanation to this state of affairs and I can tell you right away that it had nothing to do with X1. Easily fixed also. But what thru me off was the fact that I had not done anything on the system since my last mixing session a few days earlier. Curious? Care to take a jab at it. Meaning, what would be your troubleshooting steps if faced with a similar situation?
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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 17:10:57 (permalink)
    Too much wacky-tobacky?

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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 17:13:11 (permalink)
    It's impossible to say without knowing your system, but some soundcards have there own matrix (such as the RME cards) that can change your mix without Sonar being involved. A bit more information would help.

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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 17:20:16 (permalink)
    Like the constructive post.  If it were me, I'd go step by step through the signal flow backwards.

    i.e. powered monitors on? check
    cable hooked up to monitors? check
    other end of cable hooked up to hw or mixer out (depends on config, extra steps if mixer, etc. to check for mutes)
    hw output not muted, etc. check
    hw mixer configured correctly? (some have fairly convoluted means of misdirecting things)
    etc.



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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 17:23:29 (permalink)
    "mesh"
    Too much wacky-tobacky?

    That usually helps Mesh! 

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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 17:24:20 (permalink)
    As above I'd check monitors on, cables connected, master output selected correctly, routing correct, no active solo's anywhere and finally checking the audio engine is on.

    If you asking for my betting slip though it'll say 'You had a solo on a silent track somewhere'
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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 17:31:29 (permalink)
    You are not clear in one fact.
    Is it just a few tracks you cannot hear - or was it all silent?

    If you couldn't hear anything - turn on your power amp (or speakers) and try again.
    If only a few instruments were playing - I would look toward solos & mutes.

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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 17:32:57 (permalink)
    Possibly need to re-install the drivers for your Emu?

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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 17:33:23 (permalink)
    Keep in mind that a couple of days earlier, I was in mixing heaven. Everything was just right and I shut down the machine when done. There's no reason at this point for me to check cabling, routing, configurations etc. Some tracks are playing fine while others as mentionned above just don't give me any sound at all.

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    If you asking for my betting slip though it'll say 'You had a solo on a silent track somewhere'

    After too much wacky-tobacky, this is definitely something I have to watch out for. 
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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 17:34:14 (permalink)
    I would check the master volume(s) ...
    check Mutes  --Solo's
    Then I would turn my soundcard off and on again.  My M-Audio has gone silent on me several times and rebooting it fixed it.

    If that didnt work I would sign on the forums and renounce my allegiance to Sonar, threatened to sue, tell them I am now going to buy any number of other DAW's that I probably will never buy. 

    After figuring out the most likely obvious problem, I would then join the forum under a brand new name and start from scratch again, just so they wouldnt think I was bluffing about leaving.  I could then repost all my old songs in the songs forum the new name for even MORE views! 


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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 17:37:31 (permalink)
    Did you hit "bypass bins of this type" by mistake?

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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 17:42:19 (permalink)
    If this is a riddle or quiz it should be in the coffee house.

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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 17:42:56 (permalink)
    I just figured out it was riddle. :-)


    post edited by mike_mccue - 2011/08/30 17:44:15


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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 17:47:46 (permalink)
    "LpMike75"
    I would check the master volume(s) ...
    check Mutes --Solo's
    Then I would turn my soundcard off and on again. My M-Audio has gone silent on me several times and rebooting it fixed it.

    If that didnt work I would sign on the forums and renounce my allegiance to Sonar, threatened to sue, tell them I am now going to buy any number of other DAW's that I probably will never buy.

     After figuring out the most likely obvious problem, I would then join the forum under a brand new name and start from scratch again, just so they wouldnt think I was bluffing about leaving. I could then repost all my old songs in the songs forum the new name for even MORE views!

    It has nothing to do with mutes, solos and my EMU soundcard. It actually works better under Win7 (with Vista BETA drivers) then it did under WinXP. But I do have to give you an A for "an amusing and warped imagination". Great read! 
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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 17:52:11 (permalink)
    "ampfixer"
    If this is a riddle or quiz it should be in the coffee house.

    Not at all ampfixer. I actually freaked out when it happened. And I wouldn't be caught dead in that forum of perdition and sin. 
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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 17:55:23 (permalink)
    "twisted6s"
    Did you hit "bypass bins of this type" by mistake?

    No, but you're getting warm. 
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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 18:02:39 (permalink)
    Master output not routed to hardware output. I get that all the time.

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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 18:05:55 (permalink)
    It had all been a beautiful, but sadly delusional dream? :-)

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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 18:06:54 (permalink)
    I don't get it... are you asking us for help to figure out what's going on, or are you trying to have us guess what the problem WAS, which you have by now fixed?

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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 18:09:16 (permalink)
    He's asking the latter.

    I think it's quite an interesting exercise myself.

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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 18:18:32 (permalink)
    "John T"
    Master output not routed to hardware output. I get that all the time.

    Some tracks within the project are fine JT.
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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 18:23:20 (permalink)
    You accidentally hit the "E" key? If it has been suggested I'm sorry... Just got really eager to suggest this:D

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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 18:28:54 (permalink)
    Alegria, I'd like to just ask you this if I may: did it end up being something you actually did to cause the problem, which you had forgotten about until you figured out the problem? Or was it something you did not do, but instead an issue that Cakewalk did and was out of your control?

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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 18:29:07 (permalink)
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    Master output not routed to hardware output. I get that all the time.

    I got that showing up twice today..dang fumble fingers...

    The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate.

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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 18:32:52 (permalink)
    I "mouse" thru the menus ProjectM. I'm too old for keyboard shortcuts, well most of them anyways. And the wacky-tobacky dosen't help my short term memory. Come to think of it, my long term memory is not doing much better. 

    So "E" does... something terrible no doubt. You're not going to tell me eh?! But I won't try it blind. I will resist. 
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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 18:36:08 (permalink)
    "vaultwit"
    did it end up being something you actually did to cause the problem, which you had forgotten about until you figured out the problem?

    Yes. And with great results. But time goes by so fast sometimes... (hint, hint)
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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 18:36:30 (permalink)
    It's global effects on / off. Interesting guess, as you could easily have something that's fairly inaudible without the compressor or whatever it's going through.



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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 18:36:43 (permalink)
    Ha ha! I discovered it by accident and my experience was similar to yours. It bypasses all effects bin (and even the metronome) but I saw that it was more or less suggested already. I have no idea other than that you might have noticed the Dim-Solo button without noticing you noticed... Or something;)

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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 18:38:21 (permalink)
    Btw: the "E" key shortcut is becoming one of my favorite features in Sonar

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    Re:It can't be happening to me... OMG! 2011/08/30 18:42:49 (permalink)
    "John T"
    It's global effects on / off. Interesting guess, as you could easily have something that's fairly inaudible without the compressor or whatever it's going through.

    Thanks JT. And good try ProjectM, I can see that happening quite easily. That's good to know. And looking at the bin makes you warm... 
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