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2015/06/24 10:30:18 (permalink)

It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections...

Recently I woke up with Megadeth's old song "High Speed Dirt" off their Countdown to Extinction release. Pretty good song and one I learned back when I was a little greaser but hardly my favorite (I preferred their earlier work... particularly the album Rust In Peace which I learned almost in it's entirety at one point). Seemed odd that that particular song started earworming me out of the blue like that.
 
I think I just realized why. In my "downtime" I try to soothe the spazzoid cacophony in my mind (heh... just remembered Marty Friedman of Megadeth played on the guitar album Cacophony with... Jeff Beck? I forget and digress) by watching lame old sitcoms (because I've run out of actually funny stuff to watch). Since I had just finished working my way through all the eps of Cheers (which is actually pretty good for the time period) I figured I'd see if I could tolerate Frasier (tried a while ago but drifted away).
 
So on my little brain breaks for the past few days it has indeed been a Frasierfest (and old Columbo episodes at night... now THAT is good stuff). I just now realized how similar the silly little Mustaine blues solo in the full stop parts in High Speed Dirt is to the final little guitar lick in the outro theme on Frasier.
 
Add to that I've been using a GR5 preset to get some riff tracking done that has a very similar hi/mid crunch as they used on the Countdown album and it all makes sense.
 
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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/24 11:07:49 (permalink)
Yeah, I know what you mean.......sometimes a silly commercial will trigger a song that's totally unrelated or remotely related. I have almost all of Megadeth's albums and I also favor the Marty days with them. Cacophony & Dragon's Kiss (I have that cd as well :)) was done with Jason Becker IIRC. The whole Countdown to Ext. album is really good.....Marty's solo's are just a perfect fit (technically/musically)......then again, all his stuff with Megadeth was a perfect fit....lol. I also like Chris Pollard's work with them.....when they were a bit more raw and harder/faster.
 
Now, I've been humming Green Acre's theme since early this AM......I wonder what that means?     

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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/24 11:26:13 (permalink)
Ah! Jason Becker. That seems right (and makes more sense). Jeff Beck/Jason Becker... lol more memory twisting.
 
Marty was a huge influence on my lead playing during my formative years. So slippery, musical and tight. Mustaine has talked about how once he met and hired Marty his enormous ego got a massive kick in the crotch and that it drove him to clean up his act musically (and perhaps in general).
 
Unfortunately due to how hard I've been on my hands over the years (lots of construction work, preexisting muscle/tendon issues and... well I'm ashamed to say on occasions fist related violence with inanimate and not so-inanimate objects... but the latter of which always deserved it) I ain't quite as "slippery" as I used to be. I'm sure just aging may have soemthing to do with it as well.
 
The current project I've been obsessing over (written by someone else) has a main riff that is picked very similarly to another tune from an old band I used to play in (again written by someone else) so I've also had my mind drifting to that tune. Both are very odd picking styles to me and both totally screwed me up because of it. Aside from that the riffs are very dissimilar so it's been making that one riff in the new song even more of a buttkicker to nail down.
 
Funnily enough the riff(s) in question remind me of that strange semi off time style chugging/galloping with crazy stabs that Mustaine used to do in the REALLY old days on albums like So Far So Good... (So What). I'm always writing and playing riff picking in easily divisible patterns that land in time so that type of nutty off time stuff is a total bugger.
 
All working out nicely though. In fact I should get back to editing it. lol
 
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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/24 11:45:30 (permalink)
Hmm...  Possibly the first time Green Acres and Megadeth are mentioned at the same time. 

 
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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/24 11:56:16 (permalink)
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Hmm...  Possibly the first time Green Acres and Megadeth are mentioned at the same time. 


Ewe know, this might be a good idea to do a Metal version of Green Acre's.....the main rhythm played in a fast triplet format and the melody done with a wah wah.
 
Bwa-bwa-bwa-bwaaah.....(evil wah laugh)

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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/24 14:01:59 (permalink)
Yeah, I don't know why, for the life of me, but this song popped into my head the other morning and I drove my missus nuts walking around the house singing it:-
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1ILPl5FQaM
 
 

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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/24 14:12:55 (permalink)
You would think she's used to your singing by now.....


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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/24 14:16:09 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2015/06/24 14:25:58
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You would think she's used to your singing by now.....





I dunno... You can never get used to the sound of a cat screeching 

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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/24 16:42:37 (permalink)
Hi,
 
I don't always get specific songs at all ... I get the whole band, as if in rehearsal or while playing ... and it is another "photograph" for my mind.
 
It's gotten so huge, and so many of them, that I am working a book around it. There was one in particular that was ... nice for me ... and in my dream, this set of words showed up ... and when I told the story to someone, they specified that yeah, the singer had said that a few times. I thought it was just ... a different time and place, and it did not mean that much anymore to anyone, and too many folks don't give a darn that sometimes music is more than just music! It's a complete heart with a life!  Just ask Bapu!
post edited by Moshkito - 2015/06/24 16:53:35

Music is not about notes and chords! My poem is not about the computer or monitor or letters! It's about how I was able to translate it from my insides! 
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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/24 17:39:09 (permalink)
Isn't one of Cacophony a paraplegic these days? I seem to remember reading something a couple of years ago.

I love Frasier, even if Grammar did kind of rip the character off from Jack Benny a little. I've watched the whole thing 3 times on Netflix over the years and am currently halfway through the 4th because the girlfriend hadn't seen it. Apparently she now has a crush on Niles, so it's kind of backfired a bit...

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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/24 19:56:37 (permalink)
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Isn't one of Cacophony a paraplegic these days? I seem to remember reading something a couple of years ago.


Jason Becker has ALS. Can't move anything. Can't breathe without a machine. Can't even talk. He communicates by eye movement / looking at letters on a piece of Plexiglas. Google "Jason Becker yo-yo solo". The guy was an amazing player. Got the disease at like 20 years old.
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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/24 20:59:39 (permalink)
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Isn't one of Cacophony a paraplegic these days? I seem to remember reading something a couple of years ago.


Jason Becker has ALS. Can't move anything. Can't breathe without a machine. Can't even talk. He communicates by eye movement / looking at letters on a piece of Plexiglas. Google "Jason Becker yo-yo solo". The guy was an amazing player. Got the disease at like 20 years old.



Ah ALS, I remember now. Really sad, he was an incredible player. I think he's still involved in music in some form though. 

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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/24 21:15:56 (permalink)
Her name was Lola...

 
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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/25 05:34:17 (permalink)
... she was a showgirl.

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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/25 05:34:35 (permalink)
AArgh, now look what you made me do..

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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/25 08:14:08 (permalink)
Isn't quoting Barry Manilow songs a COC violation? If not, it should be...
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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/25 08:23:19 (permalink)
Isn't knowing that it's a Barry Manilow song a COC violation? If not, it should be...

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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/25 08:42:15 (permalink)
Jason Becker also did an album with David Lee Roth (A little ain't enough) and I believe was diagnosed with ALS a week or two after joining the band......couldn't manage to do the tour because of that. Quite sad indeed......such a great talent taken away so quickly.
 
My wife & I too love watching Frasier (& Niles especially)....we've seen every episode on Netflix at least 2x......we love the witty humour.

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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/25 08:43:23 (permalink)
(lights a candle and emerges from the depths)
 
I'm still in my Goth phase and the mere mention of someone or something named Barry Manilow causes intense agony. I think I may have cracked some eyeliner. I don't know if it's a COC violation, but that Manilow thing certainly is a crime against humanity.
 
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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/25 08:48:25 (permalink)
Who decided to bring Barry into this place? There has to be a law against this......with some severe punishment/consequences?

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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/25 09:39:43 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2015/06/25 09:53:24
There's a temporal leak in the FSF,   I'm on it

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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/25 10:20:55 (permalink)
I've never really understood this hatred of Barry Manilow. I mean come on. 
 

 
 
 
 

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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/25 10:26:40 (permalink)
MY EYES!! MY EYES!!

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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/25 10:32:52 (permalink)
My head hertz.

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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/25 14:55:16 (permalink)
I gotta get me one of those vests!
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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/25 16:33:49 (permalink)
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I gotta get me one of those vests!



You can have mine, it doesn't fit any more... 

 
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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/25 16:53:37 (permalink)
Is it just me, or when you look at that picture, do you hear a voice droning, "Duuuuuhhhhhhh...?" You hear it, too, right? 
 
It's hard for me to tell because I hear that all the time. 
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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/25 20:12:17 (permalink)
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I gotta get me one of those vests!



You can have mine, it doesn't fit any more... 


Talk about your uninvited associations...that post started up a mind-loop with "take this vest offa me, it don't fit me anymore" sung by Dylan. And now that silly tune is stuck in my head.


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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/25 20:25:38 (permalink)
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Talk about your uninvited associations...that post started up a mind-loop with "take this vest offa me, it don't fit me anymore" sung by Dylan. And now that silly tune is stuck in my head.

Well, look on the bright side. At least it's Dylan singing it, and not Axle Rose.
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Re: It's funny how our minds make subconscious musical connections... 2015/06/25 20:33:42 (permalink)
Always look on the briiiiight side of life....

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