It's Astounding

Does anyone have a good handle on how unreliable (not working as described or intended, workarounds and kludges aside) SONAR has been as opposed to competing DAWS? I have spent waaay too much time reading the SONAR forum to have any real perspective, since most of what we find there is fails and confusion.

Get a grip, dood.

slartabartfast
Does anyone have a good handle on how unreliable (not working as described or intended, workarounds and kludges aside) SONAR has been as opposed to competing DAWS? I have spent waaay too much time reading the SONAR forum to have any real perspective, since most of what we find there is fails and confusion.

Actually ever since the fatal news from the other week, I guess my rose colored glasses have slipped a little and it's really begun to annoy me how dysfunctional Sonar is in practice. It might have something to do with the unconscious thought that these bugs will now remain baked into the program forever....
 
For instance, I've just been playing with some MIDI tonight and it struck me that no, Sonar's MIDI is not all people crack it up to be. Very unreliable during playback, especially if you're editing stuff on the fly. When you move a MIDI note, the change takes a second or two to kick in, which means that if the playhead reaches the new MIDI note before that delay has passed, Sonar will still play the old note. Now that's just crap. I was using the MIDI to trigger gestures in Stutter Edit, and it made experimentation with different gestures a complete nightmare. I think the bottom line is that Sonar does not really perform well during playback. Turning plugins on and off sometimes causes tracks to go out of sync with each other. Turning sends on during playback will make the audio on the bus go out of phase with the tracks. Changing a MIDI input or output during playback causes the audio to cut out briefly. 
 
And little things that have bugged me forever which NEVER got fixed even though I provided very clear bug reports, for instance enabling a loop causes automation to go out of sync with the track by a few beats, so that when playback returns to the start of the loop, automation envelopes from a few beats before the loop will trigger. 
 
In the past, I soldiered on through annoying bugs like this because I had this eternal hope that they would be fixed one day - now that I know they never will, they're beginning to really get on my nerves. I think half the problem was that people who use Sonar as a sort of glorified tape machine and have a very conventional workflow (from reading the forums, I think this is quite a large % of users) rarely experienced many of these bugs. But if you're the kind of person who experiments a lot with synths and routing and complex automation and sound design and what have you, Sonar starts to fall flat on its arse and other DAW's leave it in the dust. 

bapu
 
Bob Dylan you ent.

 
Ain't that the truth

Well I would to actually, didn't want to say it, although Bobs ok in small doses, I can stomach him more than I can Elvis or the Beatles.

Matron Landslide

ampfixer
 
You know Landslide it's guys like you that will get the forums shut down sooner than later. Why don't you piss off to your new home and stay there. You need a good shot upside your head.

Well, simply because it's not my new home, been there for 2 and a half - 3 years, plus I am a SONAR Platinum Lifetime (oops) member, so I'll decline your generous offer, but do feel free to take it up yourself (you can take that 2 ways) I think the best thing for all would be to close this place down actually.
 
Well if we were in person, you could try the shot upside my head, although I think you'd find you would be in for a rude awakening internet tough guy.
 
Thanks for playing

I'm not a tough guy, just someone that hates trolls. Explain to me what you get out of trolling Sonar users on a Sonar forum. Don't they let you post on the SO forum? Burned all your bridges? You're not Donald Trump in real life are you? You act like him.
 
If you conduct yourself this way in your real life I'm sure the smack upside the head has found you already. I'm an old man, but I'm guessing you're a little kid. Hard to tell via the net.

LOL  it's all in the sig, not trolling, just speaking the truth, (if there is something I have said that is not true, please by all means . . . ), and having a little humour a long the way, you do remember humour?
 
Going on 54 myself there old timer, I'm the same in real life as here, and no, unfortunately for you it has not found me yet, thanks in the most part to a lot of intense training in various disciplines in my younger years up until the age of 30. I beleive in telling it how it is, speaking your mind  and consequences be damned.
 
, nice try, and again . . . Thanks for playing

Sonar works exactly the way it did one month ago, and any problems I have writing good music is not due to the software. It never was, really. I came to the conclusion I am fine with Sonar and what it can do, the software is not a limitation for me at all anymore, in fact it has been many years since that was the case. Any lack of creativity is due to me, not the software. 
 
But hey, what do I care if others want to go with DAW X Y Z ... 99% of us produce nothing but garbage anyway no matter what DAW we are using. The DAW is NOT the main issue. Talent was, and always will be, the important thing. 
 
Enjoy ! ( thanks Trump! ) 

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