Larry Jones
This is, in fact, Mark Zuckerberg's stated objective for Facebook.

There's an interview with Zuck from back when facebook was still fresh.
 
Mark was asked by a reporter why total strangers give him all there personal and private details.
 
His first response was "I don't know".
Then after a thought, he said: "Because they're dumb."

scook

slyman
 
Does anyone think that by installing it they will get all future versions for free?

That appears to be the plan http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3745236
also see http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3746108
 
 

Then it will always be, whether you install it now or later.... 
And they'll get their revenues somehow, you can bet on that...

New social online media like BandLab live first of expectation in the future.
 
After that, they live on the high number of members they can sell to investors and the stock markets as a potential database and experiment and source of new online products.
 
As you can see, Meng does not have to sell the DAW, but he needs as many online registrations as possible.
 
Investors are attracted to many registrations, the members of a good product. So Meng needs good products, which means a constantly visible development. Meng can not offer anything that looks the same in a year as it does today.
 
However, this is only my opinion.

jimfogle

 
Sometime before December, 2017 you purchased a software program called Sonar from a company called Cakewalk.  Cakewalk required you to install a file manager application called Command Center to manage installation of your Cakewalk software products by requiring online authentication.  Gibson paid for the computer servers that ran the Cakewalk authentication process and the forum.
 

Not Entirely accurate. I have SPLAT on two computers, neither of which has ever been within a mile of Cakewalk Command Center. One of them has never been connected to the internet.

ampfixer
Says the guy that helped put Gibson and Cakewalk together.

And therefore assisted in keeping Cakewalk alive for another four years. If you have a problem with that, then simply pretend Roland remained unable to find a buyer, Cakewalk disappeared, and use something else.
 
I don't have a dog in this fight. I'm not with Gibson, and I'm not doing anything for Cakewalk. I've been out of the picture except as a user and forum contributor since early October 2017.
 
I will say by any rational standards that given the situation in 2013, it was a long shot at best that Gibson could turn Cakewalk around. It was nonetheless a chance Henry was willing to take. 
 

ionecake
Although one might have seen red flags with Gibson's handling of Opcode, but maybe Craig forgot about that.

 
I was extremely aware of it. My very first personal encounter with Henry was being rude at a press event and asking about it . His answer was civil and logical. Still, before joining Gibson I talked separately with Chris Halaby, who ran Opcode, and Henry about what happened. Their stories matched up. It sounded like a situation where none of the stars were in alignment: The Windows version of Vision ultimately didn't work, most of the developers who knew the program had already jumped ship to Apple, the Mac was poised to change over to OS X (surprise!), and there was disagreement about how to handle the reality of the situation. Gibson thought it was buying a program it could take to greater heights. Instead, Gibson needed a team in place essentially to re-build Vision from the ground up, and wasn't able to do so for multiple reasons.
 

If anything, going to Gibson might have been just the lucky break Cakewalk needed before Meng and BandLab came along. Who knows?

 
The people at Cakewalk AND Gibson were able to bring Cakewalk up to the point where it was in better shape than it was under Roland. I think if the numbers had been the same as when Roland had it, there would likely not have been a buyer. So ultimately, I believe my take that Gibson would be beneficial to Cakewalk was fundamentally correct. The alternative to Gibson acquiring it would likely have been no Cakewalk and no Sonar.
 
I've followed my own advice and am not overthinking this. I downloaded CbB. It works. It recognizes my Platinum stuff. I can keep using a program that's just like Sonar. Thank you Meng, thank you Noel, and thank you Henry for keeping it alive.

Thanks, Craig! I appreciate your candor and sharing your POV. I for one was harsh about Gibson when things fell apart, and I've always been very skeptical about them (from the Opcode days), but I've since softened my view a bit recently, and what you've been saying about what happened just helps confirm my shifting view.
 
What helped me change the most was digging around and finding some numbers from Cakewalk back during the Roland days when I *thought* (mistakenly as it turns out) that they were doing better than they were... it was clear Cakewalk was in real financial trouble, it was getting worse, and Roland couldn't figure out how to make them profitable. I can see now that Cakewalk would have disappeared a long time ago without Gibson.
 
And even though I still think Gibson did a poor job, they did give it a shot and kept them floating. That's worth something. Gibson just didn't have the right tools/knowledge to make it work. But they tried. I think they made some pretty idiotic decisions during that time, but I can see that they were really trying a bunch of different things -- I'll take your word that they were sincere at it -- and they just couldn't make it work.
 
After learning more about the story, I just feel bad for all involved. I can't really bring myself to blame anyone at this point. For whatever combination of reasons, Cakewalk couldn't weather the perfect storm of frankly a shifting cultural/tech/industry/market landscape. I remember my frustration with them years ago and I got fed up more than once. But I think I understand what happened now, and it's made me much less judgmental about the decisions made.
 
In any case, one hopes that now Cakewalk has found the right home. It deserves it, and I hope Meng continues to put his wallet where his mouth is to give Cakewalk the breathing room it needs to thrive.

We are all consumers. That's how we came to be here in the first place. Someone offered goods and services that we felt we needed and we chose to invest in them under the conditions offered at the time of purchase. There are many  providers of similar goods and services and some, including myself have invested in as well. No one twisted my arm to force me to continue here. I am here because I want to be. I'm inspired to be taking part of something that I think is bigger than the software itself. So if this place isn't a place where you think you want to be then make way to the other place that inspires you, who ever you are. You need to fair to your own self. 
 
just my 2 synths
 

slyman
I really don't get what the hype is all about with this "new" version and why many SPLAT users are installing it. 
It's the same piece of software.....! 

Not nearly the same as SPLAT 2017.01
http://forum.cakewalk.com/PRV-Shootout-CbB-vs-201701-m3747143.aspx#3747143 

Anderton

ampfixer
I downloaded CbB. It works. It recognizes my Platinum stuff. I can keep using a program that's just like Sonar. Thank you Meng, thank you Noel, and thank you Henry for keeping it alive.

Why is this so hard for some people to grasp?  SONAR was dead.  And before it was dead it was expensive.  Now it is both alive AND free!!  What's not to love?  Why all the conspiracy theories?  Why the paranoia?  Why the fear?  If you don't want it, then don't download it.  If you do want it, grab a copy.  FOR FREE!!  IT'S EASY EITHER WAY!!!

∞

subtlearts

Rbh
Maybe the nature of how this thread digressed is all wrapped up in how people talk a lot about things they know very little about. But - the internet makes them so intellectual and free to espouse their half knowledge with little to no filters about what is real.   Thank you Craig for your insight and actual knowledge / understanding of this situation .... and for sharing it with the forum.

Slight edit to your post: Maybe the nature of *PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING ONLINE* is all wrapped up in how people talk a lot about things they know very little about...
 
That's how it increasingly looks to me, anyway... The internet, the most incredible repository of knowledge in history, too bad it's 98% full of nonsense, bulls%§t and vitriol. Oh, and porn. But otherwise, amazing!

Not to mention that its the same people over and over....