It's not the sound card...yay!!!!If you have a Delta 1010....

Hey Randy, we use a Delta 1010 in studio A which I occasionally use SonarPE 7 with.  Not sure of the settings as I didn't set it up and it's mostly used with Adobe Audition.  But I'm not seeing any problems at all there.  I'll try and get our settings for you next time I use that room.

I just sold mine but your setting seem ok. I had problem with looping long time ago but it was caused by a vst not the sound card.

"If you access the m-audio panel through sonars "audio" settings it takes you to the control panel and halts sonars audio engine to allow you to make adjustments. (well mine does, anyhow) "
I used to be able to access with that button but now nothing happens when I press "asio panel"

"Are you actually using Win.7 drivers for the Delta 10-10?"

Yessir, according to the M-Audio site
Thanks Jimmy,
Randy

I disconnected the Delta and uninstalled the drivers and selected my onboard sound card....it does the same thing and I'm somewhat relieved!!....but what the heck could cause this?
Thanks,
Randy

Ozz


Just a guess, but try going to the control panel, choose sound, go to the sounds tab, scroll til you get to the "Start Navigation" sound, and change it to "none" for a sound.
 
We had some non-linear video editors at work that were experiencing a similar issue (and I've had issues at home...though not with the 1010 or in a Sonar situation) and for whatever reason, this was the culprit.
 
It might not help you...but it's a harmless change and worth a shot!

Thanks very much for the suggestion Ozz but no...it didn't help.
Thanks again,
Randy

cliffsp8


If it's only popping at the end of a loop it could be the click from sudden changes in signal level.

Have you tried setting snap options to audio zero crossings? It will minimise those as a source of clicks.

To do that, check the audio zero crossings on the landmark area in the snap properties dialog. Suppose you have musical and measure set for the main snap properties -  then clicking in the time line will snap it to the exact measure time, but clicking in the clip will snap to the nearest zero crossing in that clip to the measure time. So you can have the best of both worlds.

Of course if you have multiple tracks there will usually be one that clicks, so if you are planning to make the loop permanent it's best to put very short fades at start and finish of the loop.

Cliff

Thanks very much Cliff but it's not that kind of click or pop...what it does is loop fine (sometimes) once or twice and then pop loud and then there's no sound (as it continues to loop).
Thanks very much though Cliff,
Randy

Well just for the hell of it I opened the same project in my recently installed 32 bit version of Sonar (had to install it to get Real Guitar to work in 64 bit version) and I can't make it screw up...no problem whatsoever...in fact I'm getting less CPU usage....WTH??!!!
Is it that damned bitbridge? Should I just give up on the 64 bit version?

jimmyrage


I've been running a 64 and 32 bit version as well, and I'm not really seeing any benifits in the 64 bit version at this time.  In fact I usually use the 32 bit version because everything works and I'm tired of dealing with constant crashes!!!

I've tried 64 bit 3 times (installations) now and like you, don't see the benefit...I just kept trying it because everyone here that's using it raves about it (I won't mention Freddie's name). But hey, maybe us drummers just ain't smart enough Jimmy...okay, okay...I'm only speaking for myself.

So maybe Freddie's right...64 bit...it does make a difference.

 
tee-hee...yessir....certainly seems to make a difference for some of us.
Oh well, maybe some day when the whole world is 64 bit...

"Have you tried adjusting your audio buffer settings to remove the popping?"

That's a good question Karyn, and I'm not sure why I didn't try that even though it's a different kind of symptom (very LOUD pop and then silence on the looping then another loud pop when I stop playback).
However, I just tried to open this particular .cwp in the 64 bit version and it just sat there with the whited out dialogue box and so I finally had to force it to shut down.
Then I tried to open the 32 bit version and nothing happens...in task manager it still showed bitbridge running (sometimes when closing I get the "teleport server has stopped working" error) so I stopped it and then the 32 bit version opened fine.
I then opened the 64 bit version again (took 45 seconds) and changed the buffers in Sonar and my Delta from 256 to 512 but it made no difference.
Thanks Karyn,
Randy

I don't mean to be a PITA  and I've already handed this over to support but just discovered something very strange that could lead to my issues.
I decided to run DPC latency when trying to loop but it showed no spikes or anything...however when I closed Sonar DPC went all red to the top and stays there until I open Sonar again.
If you take a look at the screen capture you'll see the results of Sonar being closed (red), then opened (green), then closed again. http://s376.photobucket.com/albums/oo206/GRB53/?action=view&current=DPClatency.jpg
EDIT: After a restart this doesn't happen.

Marky, the thread is two years old. ;o) I think it's solved.

 Oops.