djwayne
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I've given up on ssd's..
Because of my recent experience with the 128 gig ssd that had gone silent....I have decided to give up on them. I re-installed my Ivory II program on a 320 gig hard drive that I had left over from my old computer. The piano samples take a few seconds to load but they play fine once loaded. Synthogy is coming out with another piano sample package to go along with the current Ivory II collection called the American Concert Grand. This new one is 50+ gigs so I'd need to buy a 160 gig ssd to hold it all. They are just too expensive, and I'm not going to put out that kind of money and watch the new drive go dead again. The regular hard drives are much more dependable.
My other 64 gig ssd that is hosting my East West Gold Symphonic Orchestra program is working fine, so I'll leave that be for now. Once the ssd fails though, I'll be putting the program on to my 320 gig sample drive.
SSD's are nice when they are working but totally useless when they fail. Maybe I'll come back after 5 or 10 years of developement.
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/26 15:26:44
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I'm seeing that it "looks" preferred to be used as the C drive....but what are really the advantages?
They don't seem big enough to hold anything else at this point, unless it's just a single VSTi library or such. Won't hold several, for sure of the biggies.
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djwayne
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/26 15:36:50
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The big advatage is quick loading of samples, but that doesn't justify the cost, especially when they go dead after a month or two of being purchased.
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/26 17:26:44
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EXACTLY! I tried using mine for my main drive, but it kept crashing my install. So now I use it as a drive for my SampleTank sound library. I still have them backed up on my back up drives, but for on the road playback it works.
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/26 17:53:02
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I haven't had any failures with my SSD's and they are now a couple years old. I had a regular hard drive fail recently though. I use Intel SSD's. The performance gains on the SSD's are quite large especially with libraries such as LA Scoring Strings. I haven't had to freeze tracks since putting LASS on a SSD.
BTW, I have 4 sets of laptops with 22 laptops in each one plus another 10 laptops in my lab and they all have Intel SSD's. They are all almost 3 years old and not a single SSD failure. I have had a few system boards die!
Jim
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/26 18:13:28
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Given that many people report success with either Intel or Crucial M4 SSD's, but many problems with OCZ...
What brand is the failed drive?
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/26 18:40:39
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/26 18:51:30
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I have been using the Samsung 830's without issue, so far.
Desktop - 128GB ssd for OS, 2-128GB and a 512GB ssd's for sample libraries.
Laptop - 256 ssd for OS, 512 ssd for samples.
The difference between the ssd's vs. hdd's were like night and day for me.
I curious about the brand you're having problems with also. Hate to see you lose performance due to a bad experience with a problem brand.
Hope you get it sorted.
Kind regards,
Rick
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/26 19:15:05
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Crucial M4's in two machines. No problems so far.
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djwayne
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/26 19:49:00
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Well the store is going to get me a new one, but the damage is done. I can't trust them. One day it works great the next day, nothing.
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/26 20:18:35
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It's pretty well documented that OCZ aren't very reliable.
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/26 23:07:04
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rtucker55
I have been using the Samsung 830's without issue, so far.
That's what the new Macbook Pro's (retina) ship with.
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/27 06:42:12
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I'm not totally impressed with my SSD. I recently built two PC's, one primarily for Sonar, that has an SSD, and another as a backup and for other uses. Both have Z77 chipset motherboards, and i7 CPU's. The other PC has a hard drive only in it. Other than a little faster boot up, I don't see much other difference. On a benchmark test I would probably see a difference, but for my uses the difference is a wash.
If/when my OCZ Vertex 4 SSD dies, I'll just go with a hard drive only on the Sonar system.
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/27 09:43:20
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Well if they are known to be unreliable, they shouldn't sell them. Microcenter says they haven't had a problem with them....
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Jim Roseberry
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/27 13:57:41
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It's pretty well documented that OCZ aren't very reliable. I have three OCZ SSD drives... all work fine. The drive in question is the lower end OCZ... which really isn't much faster than the fastest conventional HDs.
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/27 13:59:39
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Other than a little faster boot up, I don't see much other difference. FWIW, That's why I don't choose to use SSD for a boot drive. Not a huge difference. SSD really shines when you need huge amount of disk-streaming polyphony (running Hollywood Strings or LA Scoring Strings aka LASS)
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/27 14:02:43
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Well if they are known to be unreliable, they shouldn't sell them. Microcenter says they haven't had a problem with them.... FWIW, Microcenter's typical custom is NOT a DAW user. It's a typical gamer or home user... I'm in the local Microcenter on a daily basis. Great guys... but they know nothing about DAWs.
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/28 14:21:12
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"timidi"
It's pretty well documented that OCZ aren't very reliable. Care to elaborate on your sources? Anything on their 3rd and 4th generation SSDs (Vertex 3 / Vertex 4)?
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/28 23:28:43
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"timidi"
It's pretty well documented that OCZ aren't very reliable.
Care to elaborate on your sources? Anything on their 3rd and 4th generation SSDs (Vertex 3 / Vertex 4)?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227793 Not exactly a ringing endorsement. On the other hand the Samsung 830 series consistently gets five eggs .
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/29 01:41:23
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I have been testing a small Crucial M4 SSD for the past couple of months. It really helps tremendously with the couple of VSL libraries on it.
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/29 10:50:39
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"Anubis"
Not exactly a ringing endorsement. On the other hand the Samsung 830 series consistently gets five eggs . I see what you mean. Although reviews on sites such as Newegg is not something I take very seriously (especially when it's all over the map so to speak). I'll be visiting OCZ's forums to get a better handle on what's being reported though. Thanks for the link.
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/30 08:50:02
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lthough reviews on sites such as Newegg is not something I take very seriously (especially when it's all over the map so to speak). If you are experienced with PCs... some of those "reviews" are comical. 
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/30 09:12:45
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/08/30 09:33:30
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 Funnily enough a common fault that many reviewers have cited is the same problem the OP here had as well. Not being recognized by the BIOS. Normally when something is showing up with common symptoms being reported it makes me very wary. Look at Intel go though!!!
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/09/07 19:48:38
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noldar12
Given that many people report success with either Intel or Crucial M4 SSD's, but many problems with OCZ...
What brand is the failed drive?
I have 5 ocz ssds various sizes and types (vertex 2 and 3). Never a failure or problem with some 2 years old. Use one for boot so it gets used quite a bit. Had one Intel and it failed in 3 weeks. Sent it back and got full refund which surprised me. It sounds like failures are just bad luck for all the brands. John
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/09/17 00:44:14
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Nobody here has mentioned the fact that their are two SSD technologies. SLC and MLC (single layer cell & multi layer cell).
SLC drives are more expensive, but faster and much more reliable. One of the reasons they cost more is that SLC NAND chips are lower density, which means larger/more chips.
Most SSDs for sale seem to be MLC, which are slower and much less reliable. I have used both. Having recently put a SLC based SSD in my laptop, I can report that the resulting performance boost on the drive, which obviously also serves as the boot drive, is night and day.
Keep in mind though that SSDs aren't a silver bullet. Sustained sequential writes are actually significantly slower on an SSD vs a traditional magnetic platter drive. For that reason, even if they get bigger and cheaper, I would not use one to record audio to.
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/09/17 15:21:26
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Well I haven't heard back from Microcenter so it's looking like I'm getting stiffed and will be forced to eat the ssd....not happy.
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/09/18 06:44:09
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Well I haven't heard back from Microcenter so it's looking like I'm getting stiffed and will be forced to eat the ssd....not happy. Do you have a local store? If so, I'd go in person... and talk to a manager.
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djwayne
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/09/18 07:53:52
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I did talk to a manager...he told me to go home and he'd call me....... he never called.
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Re:I've given up on ssd's..
2012/09/18 08:20:15
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Was the "manager" the top person? If not, I'd go for the top person at the store as he (or she) is the one that can really make a decision.
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