Axeman49
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I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus more
For some reason I have the Rice Krispies desease now :( (snap,crackle and pop) plus some of my virtual instruments won't dock and I have to either x em or minimize them. Any help, Oh I have a M-Audio delta 66 sound card. It has a PCI card and a break out box. Can someone help me ?? Thanks Dan
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/15 02:25:44
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I would start by looking at your drivers. My experience with M-Audio x64 bit drivers hasn't been good although I haven't used a Delta 66 for a while, for that reason. However others do use them successfully so it may be that your motherboard doesn't have native PCI support as discussed in this thread which relates to the 10/10 but I guess will also apply to the 66 as well.
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/15 05:52:18
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Another issue is that most modern Motherboards don't do a very good version of PCI (which is now a legacy device) Also other issues like IRQ sharing don't do any favours for audio cards. Another member just had the same issues with an M-Audio 1010 which has the same PCI inteface and drivers and consequently the same problems on a new MOBO. You've recognised that your PC needed upgrading - time to recognize the same regarding your audio device. Sorry to be the bearer of such bad news.
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/15 06:00:05
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You built the machine yourself? There is a D drive where the audioproject originates?
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/15 09:47:03
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I had similar issues with my M-Audio Delta. It worked flawless in my old XP machine - but did the snaps and crackles with Windows 7 - After much work and tinkering around - without success - I ended up with a different USB interface and I have not looked back.
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Axeman49
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/16 02:24:44
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Thanks for the help guys. I didn't build this one. I stopped that a couple machines ago :) I got lazy in my older daze I guess. Looks like I'll be investing in a new interface, sigh. Thanks Dan
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/16 02:45:04
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Axeman49 plus some of my virtual instruments won't dock and I have to either x em or minimize them. 32-bit synths that are now in bit-bridge maybe? Did you upgrade from a 32-bit environment?
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/16 02:48:36
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Damn... this thread has finally convinced me I REALLY need to replace the old PCI interface. Stupid advancing technologies always sticking their hands in our wallets. ;-)
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/16 02:59:19
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You got that right. Gear lust is an expensive affliction.
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/16 03:06:19
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With the money I've sunk into my new rig so far I could have bought a crappy used car... but on the flipside of that pain I remind myself that some people spend this much on standard issue Les Paul's and it makes me feel a little better. I just want to buy food again. lol... This'll be the last month of major purchases for me though... I hope. ;-)
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/16 05:30:21
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I'm sure you meant 3.4ghz...
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/16 08:40:00
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Beepster With the money I've sunk into my new rig so far I could have bought a crappy used car... but on the flipside of that pain I remind myself that some people spend this much on standard issue Les Paul's and it makes me feel a little better. I just want to buy food again. lol... This'll be the last month of major purchases for me though... I hope. ;-) Interesting concept a musician whom can afford his own food. I feel your pain had to ditch a perfectly good sound card because they dumped the 5v rail on the MoB.
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/16 13:06:26
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they have done that on a lot of boards years ago.. sw1000 / dsp factory card owners know only too well.. 6he 5 volt issue that and when they had issues with certain intel chipsets... still it's a good primer for anything that'll go wrong.. still haven't put my 1010LT into my main new rig, but if it plays "silly sods" then It'll get put on ebay , a lot of cards are at the end of their legacy period probably, and they might want you to get a new card.. that being the case I might shop elsewhere. :)
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/16 14:28:08
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@Wookiee... heh, yeah. I'm not pretty enough anymore to attract sugar mommas. ;-p
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/16 14:50:34
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My card is a Lynx Two, which is PCI, and I have zero problems with it. It's flawless at all latency, and sounds better than the m-audio. I think it has more to do with the crappy m-audio drivers than the fact that you're using PCI. It took m-audio years to get the 32 bit drivers working right for XP, and it'll probably take the same for the 64 bit drivers.
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/16 15:05:59
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1. Check RAM use by right clicking on My Computers - Properties and seeing if it is using all 12 Gigs. 2. Check CPU clock speed by doing the same above and seeing if the computer is using all the CPU capacity. 3. I have a feeling it is your harddrive that may cause the issue. A low RPM harddrive is more likely to cause Rice Krispies than RAM or CPU. 4. M-Audio drivers suck. Get a mixing interface. They are always updated and are usually one-time investments (For a long time too).
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/16 15:47:00
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hmm... I should probably check on my RAM too. As far as CPU usage my BIOS utility thingy kind of confuses me. When I check the CPU usage it has 6 (I think it's 6) different meters. The first one usually has the most activity (hovering 10% when I've got Sonar open) and the others just get little 1-2% spikes. I'm assuming those are the individual cores or something. It's an i7 2600k on an ASUS P8Z68 Pro/Gen3 MOBO. Normal?
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/16 20:47:37
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One other thing to try for old PCI soundcards is to move it to a different slot if available. Sometime what happens is the PCI and PCIe slots maybe sharing an IRQ which will cause the snap, crackle and pop. Your motherboard manual should have a listing of which slots share IRQ assignments. Hope this helps. Cheers, jayson
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/18 00:16:23
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Ya, Jayson, that's an old fix :) and the first thing I tried, but, sigh, going to another pci slot didn't help. Ya Beepster, each one equals a separate core on your cpu. And yes I meant 3.4ghz and not mhz. Once again, thanks for all the help guys. Dan
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/18 00:24:59
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Hmm... I only have one other legacy PCI slot available on that board. I'm not even using any PCIe slots. Frankly I'm just sick of pulling my hair out over the Echo. As I've said it can go back to it's original home in the old XP system. It seems to like living there. Who am I deny it it's happiness?
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/18 00:26:35
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But that is good to know... thanks guys.
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/18 02:08:11
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A thought occurred to me. If the new MOBOs legacy PCI slots and modern OSs aren't cooperating well well the PCI cards of some of these older boxes I wonder if there could be a market for PCIe cards designed to take their place. Many of us paid a lot of money for this stuff and if the only thing wrong is the card... well, seems like someone could make some money here. Sounds like something Gigabyte might be into.
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/18 03:28:48
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I have a delta 66 on my home studio pc and 2 delta 1010s on away from home studio pc. they both work fine with xp and the older mother boards. (6 years old or so) I have been thinking about upgrading to Win 7 and going 64 bit. Now if what I am reading here is correct the problem (or potential problem) isn't Win 7 but the newer motherboards. Right? They are incompatible with the old delta cards?
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/18 04:00:44
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Yes, it seems to be the PCI slots on the newer MOBOs and perhaps more specifically the chipset that makes the slot do its thing. If I've understood correctly the manufacturers just kind of slapped in the legacy PCI slots (yes apparently they are considered legacy devices now) as an afterthought without really throwing much quality at them. It's kind of a piss off for me because I thought I had chosen the right board but I guess not. However someone just told me in another thread that Echo has been having success running their old stuff through PCI to PCIe adapters into PCIe slots on newer boards so perhaps that might be something you'd want to look into. Otherwise budget for a new interface as well. Cheers.
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/18 04:06:41
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And I should add it DOES work. I get playback and have recorded simple analog and various other tasks... but it drops out, crashes stuff, is giving me poor latency values and just generally being a pain in the whatsit.
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/18 12:57:05
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well I shouldnt have a problem if I just upgrade to Win 7 but keep my old motherboards. hopefully
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/18 13:02:49
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Dunno about your situation but I found that I had to change from WDM to ASIO to cure my ills. Up until then WDM always was best.
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/18 13:08:55
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Yes, I'm finding this out myself. My new computer doesn't have any PCI slots so I sold off my 1010LT card and gave away my 24/96 soundcard and replaced them both with a M-Audio Fast Track USB interface and couldn't be happier. The Fast Track sits on my computer just waiting for me to plug in my guitar, mic or headphones. It also has volume controls for each, so it's very convient for me, and everything sounds great !! The Fast Track acts like a sound card and has ASIO drivers so it works very well for me with Sonar and my East West program as well.
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/18 14:06:09
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@High and Dry... you may want to verify Win7 will actually work properly with your old boards. I'm not sure but I think that might cause problems in certain instances. As well I'd make sure Delta have up to date Win 7 drivers. I'm sure they do but it would be something to look into. Good luck.
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Re:I've just upgraded to Win7/64bit/12gigsRam/i7 3.40mhz BUT,Rice Krispies Disease plus mo
2012/05/18 14:22:11
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My old Delta 44 PCI was my trusty workhorse for nearly 10 years but as soon as I upgraded past a windows xp / quadcore setup to a win 7 / i7 combo it proved no end of trouble - crackles, pops, crashes ... you name it! For about 6months I persevered trying every tweak I could get my hands on, beta drivers and so on to no avail (including many obscure ones involving BIOS changes suggested by the M-Audio forum). I've since moved on to another PCI vendor (RME) and all is good again. Not sure if it was the Avid take-over of M-Audio or some obscure problem with modern implementations of the PCI bus, or indeed something else entirely but my days of frustration with the Delta 44 will not be forgotten. Shame really because I had nothing but good things to say about my Delta until the hardware upgrade. Don't torture yourself like I did, try a modern PCI card if you can and just get on with the music making. G'luck!
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