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J'apprends le français

And I think I've learned more in one week from a free phone app than I ever did in 6 years of French lessons at school. 
 
Mind you, I pretty much snoozed through all of those lessons. 
 

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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/28 00:43:51 (permalink)
Votre pomplemousse est chat, oui?
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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/28 00:51:43 (permalink)
Seulement quand je suis sous les concombres.

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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/28 01:03:01 (permalink)
J'avaiz les oiseaux dans mon qu'el que chose.
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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/28 12:45:36 (permalink)
All you need is "je t'aime."
 
I got mixed up in a French bar once, and instead of saying "merci" to the cute waitress i accidentally said "je t'aime."
She responded with "non, monsieur.  you should have said MERCI."
"No," I replied.  "I meant what i said."
 
We got great table service for the rest of the night!
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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/28 14:34:07 (permalink)
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J'avaiz les oiseaux dans mon qu'el que chose.





Comment sentent-ils?

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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/28 16:13:19 (permalink)
"omelete du fromage"

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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/28 23:50:52 (permalink)
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"omelete du fromage"




I believe that was "omelette au fromage" 

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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/29 16:37:56 (permalink)
Here's a hint. Get a long list of false cognates and learn them. After that, your guesses about French words will be more reliable. Here are some examples:
 
"Chair" in French means "flesh" in English.
"Flèche" means "arrow."
"Actuel" means "current."
 
As far as pronunciation, most methods and teachers teach an artificial version of the pronunciation, which is really different from how French people really talk. If they're saying "Je ne sais pas" in four syllables, you'll have a hard time when you hear it in two syllables. (Same is true for English teaching BTW.)
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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/29 18:27:20 (permalink)
Parlay vous a hama hama is the pickup line I used as a teenager

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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/29 18:46:47 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bayoubill 2018/03/29 19:22:01
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Parlay vous a hama hama is the pickup line I used as a teenager

Finally, a Frenchman that speaks my language!!

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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/29 19:28:08 (permalink)
Ça c'est bon Mesh! Je suis et swavay and deboner de tant de facons
 

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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/29 19:52:57 (permalink)
Heheheheh, bayoubill said deboner...

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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/29 20:30:47 (permalink)
Ciao tutti ( bon j'avoue ça commence mal mais :" salut tout le monde" c'est un peu lourd alors je préfère éviter ..)
C'est cool de vous voir vous amuser avec une langue que je connais pas trop mal...
Bon d'après moi le plus facile pour apprendre c'est d'avoir des parents francophones ,mais comme personne n'est parfait ,si c'est pas le cas ,le mieux c'est d'avoir une copine ou un copain francais quand on est ado...
Et si c'est toujours pas le cas ,là ça se gâte .....
Mais tout n'est pas perdu,comme c'est un forum de musiciens,les chansons sont un super moyen d'apprendre une langue, trouvez des chansons françaises qui vous plaisent ( les miennes sont super 😇😇), désolé ,c'était trop facile..) et apprenez les.
Personnellement ,c'est beaucoup comme ça que j'ai appris l'anglais .
Bon je traduirais pas ce post*
* I won't translate all that bull#*"..
Cheers.
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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/29 20:58:24 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2018/03/29 21:44:50
Ok,ok as far as everybody asks for it,I will make an attempt to translate my super post...
( yes I have time to loose...)
Ciao tutti ( I admit things are going wrong way at start but" hello everybody" is somewhat "tacky" ( google) so I will avoid it)
Cool to see you muse around with a language I know a little bit.
For me easiest way to learn french is to have french speaking parents,but as far as nobody is perfect,then the best thing is to have ( or have had, depending on the age) a french girl or boyfriend in the teenage years..
If it is still not the case then things are getting worse ....but everything is not lost yet.
As far as it is a musicians forum,songs are a great way to discover a language. Find french songs you like( mine are top notch,sorry,sorry,it was too easy) and learn them.
Personally I learned english( american) mainly this way.
I won't translate that post.
Amicalement.
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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/29 21:20:06 (permalink)
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Here's a hint. Get a long list of false cognates and learn them. After that, your guesses about French words will be more reliable. Here are some examples:
 
"Chair" in French means "flesh" in English.
"Flèche" means "arrow."
"Actuel" means "current."
 
As far as pronunciation, most methods and teachers teach an artificial version of the pronunciation, which is really different from how French people really talk. If they're saying "Je ne sais pas" in four syllables, you'll have a hard time when you hear it in two syllables. (Same is true for English teaching BTW.)


That's why sites like FluentU are so helpful in learning a language. It features YouTube videos in the language you're learning, with interactive subtitles added. So you can watch things like commercials and news reports and read a translation. Biggest problem is learning in the classroom and feeling totally lost as soon as you hear a native speak. I was lucky to have spent some time in France as a kid though and picked up the general flow and pronunciation of the language, as well as many words that I never even saw the spelling of until years later.

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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/29 21:41:49 (permalink)
Ci tu habitez en France je pense que votre Francais va etre meilleur de le plupart de les personne ici... comme moi.
 
Je suis "Francais" mais habitez dans l'Ontario pour toute mon vis... alors je parle "Franglais".
 
Et c'est le francais Canadien aussi. C'est un petit peut, comment vous dit "rednecky".
 
Salud.
 
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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/29 21:47:38 (permalink)
Le (la?) chose qui est le plus dificile en Francais est toute les mot qui est feminin ou masculin.
 
On ne fait pas ca en Anglais.
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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/29 21:56:17 (permalink)
Exactement! Quand je ne voulais pas répondre à une femme irrate je parle de hama hama vued je dirais Ne parle pas anglais
Je SUIS bayoubill

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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/29 22:02:53 (permalink)
I think I'm going to start reading billy's posts with a thiiiiiiick French/Cajun accent.
 
Would this be accurate Billy? I mean it would make sense whut wiff the "bayou" thing but I luuuurve that Cajun drawl.
 
In a totally manly and platonic way of course.
 
*nervously adjusts tie*
 
...
 
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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/29 22:09:53 (permalink)
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Le (la?) chose qui est le plus dificile en Francais est toute les mot qui est feminin ou masculin.
 
On ne fait pas ca en Anglais.

La chose la plus difficile en francais ,ce sont sont tous ces mots qui sont au masculin ou au féminin ,on ne fait pas ça en anglais,
I think it is what you meant ....
True your language is more straightforward but my guitar is " ma guitare" she is a girl and my amp is " mon ampli" he is a man( normal for this testoteronic tool ... )
Well I admit that we need ten pages to say what could be told in three words ,but it is fun to play around with ideas and feelings and I admit I like to speak french though I imagine it is a nightmare to learn it if you didn't approached it in an affective way.
Again good fun and a little bit of pride to see you all muse around with french....
Cheers.
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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/29 22:21:24 (permalink)
PS: IME the most comprehensible French accents are from Africa. Just very well enunciated and seemingly devoid of all the regional slang/colloquialisms Euro/Canucker/etc variants have built up.
 
I'm thinking because it's usually second language. Kind of like I can understand someone from India speaking English about a million times better than I can understand a Geordie or Cockney accent/dialect.
 
Meh... language fascinates me and I've been trying to compile a list of languages to learn before I kick it.
 
1) Well I could probably very easily get my conversational French up to speed and it's really the most immediately useful to me since it's Canada's official second language
 
2) I'm thinking Spanish because I can kind of already glean quite a bit of it from American TV/cinema and it's kind of similar to French (as far as I can tell but perhaps not as similar as Italian).
 
3) German. My stepmom's parents were from Germany (and my stepdad from Austria) so I already have a bit of a foundation there. It is supposedly a REALLY difficult language to become fully fluent in but it's also a gateway to other languages and if I can get my head around those other tongues (giggety) then it would be like a step up in linguistics profiency because then I want to....
 
4) Learn Cantonese and other eastern languages... which, if I managed to learn all that other stuff, would likely take me through to my eventual dirt nap.
 
 
 
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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/29 22:41:26 (permalink)
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Le (la?) chose qui est le plus dificile en Francais est toute les mot qui est feminin ou masculin.
 
On ne fait pas ca en Anglais.

La chose la plus difficile en francais ,ce sont sont tous ces mots qui sont au masculin ou au féminin ,on ne fait pas ça en anglais,
I think it is what you meant ....
True your language is more straightforward but my guitar is " ma guitare" she is a girl and my amp is " mon ampli" he is a man( normal for this testoteronic tool ... )
Well I admit that we need ten pages to say what could be told in three words ,but it is fun to play around with ideas and feelings and I admit I like to speak french though I imagine it is a nightmare to learn it if you didn't approached it in an affective way.
Again good fun and a little bit of pride to see you all muse around with french....
Cheers.



Well, French is one of the romance languages is it not? I just rejected it when I was young because I was raised in an English speaking household until I became school aged and then they dropped me into a full French Catholic school... and I had NO freaking clue what was being said. I did pick it up but it was a real problem for a little 4-7 year old Beepster. Then they tossed me into "French Immersion" public school which was better but all the history and geography was in French... which again caused problems (and we still weren't speaking French in the home either).
 
FINALLY I got tossed into full on anglo public school but by that time I pretty much thought every adult around me was a complete bungling idiot.
 
And they really were.
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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/29 23:45:06 (permalink)
Yes, French is a Romance language, like Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, and Romanian. So if you learn one well, you have a big advantage learning one of the others. I'd suggest learning one really, really well before starting another one. Otherwise you can end up in confusion.
 
As far as the pain of learning the gender for every noun, it could be worse -- German and most other northern European languages have three. Just give up on the idea that the gender is related to the meaning of the word.
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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/30 00:12:02 (permalink)
Huh, didn't know Romanian was a part of that group of dialects but yeah... I kind of glean Italian and (to a lesser extent) Portuguese because of my rudimentary Frenchiness.
 
That's kind of cool. Don't know when, how or where I might be exposed to enough Romanian to catch the basic drift but now I'm going to try to seperate it from the slavic/germanic languages... if I can actually know when/if I'm actually listening to Romanian.
 
How about Hungarian?
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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/30 00:14:09 (permalink)
Wow... it's like right in the name.
 
Rome
 
Romance
 
Romanian
 
/is also an etymology buff
 
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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/30 01:18:21 (permalink)
I know French toast.
And French kisses.
Unfortunately, I haven't had either in a while. 

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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/30 13:54:42 (permalink)
When I was a teenager I went to Turkey a few times and I made a friend out there about my own age. He spoke perfect English and he told me that he learned by renting American movies every weekend and following along with the Turkish subtitles. I think that's probably a great way to pick a language up. 
 
When I was a kid we had a few kid's TV shows that were European and dubbed (badly) into English. They should have just broadcast them with the subtitles, I'm sure the kids who watched them would end up learning. When I was 8 I watched an Austrian kid's TV adaptation of Heidi religiously because I had a crush on the girl who played her. If they'd broadcast it in its native German I'd probably speak German now. 

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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/30 14:21:05 (permalink)
Beeps you clearly haven't knowledge of the Sanchez brothers of which I closely resemble Guillermo Sanchez. I repeat
the name Sanchez . I Am clearly of Bapu decent
 

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Re: J'apprends le français 2018/03/30 15:23:52 (permalink)
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I know French toast.
And French kisses.
Unfortunately, I haven't had either in a while. 


Try some French fries instead.
 
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