notnat
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"JIMMY'S BLUES"
Jimmy Gentry (jimmyman) is on fire... Jimmy wrote and sang this song, and asked me if I would play some guitar... Of course I could not resist, so I asked him to send me his vocal track and I'd play around with it... As usual, I wound up bogarting the production, and this is what I came up with... Jimmy asked me to go ahead and post it, and he would post his own version when he's not so busy... Final Mix...
I recorded a new bass part... again...
Bumped the piano and National slide...
Moved the harp and lead back a tad...
how do it sound now ? "Jimmy's Blues"
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues"
2009/03/15 16:47:34
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Now this is ablaze!! Mix is also rich and astounding!
Dynamics are especially clear and crisp, with mids lows and highs!
What about the harmonica-guitar morph? Could you explain that effect a bit?
The harmonica is ultra smooth!
(Note: Ending got cut-off ... No negatives other than that)
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues"
2009/03/15 16:48:19
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I'd say jimmy was on fire... wow.
Mix is a bit muddy/mono, but the song is killer.
Dang... impressed.
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues"
2009/03/15 16:48:36
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man im honerd youd take the time for this.. its got franks
style writen all over it. i cant pay atteintion to my vocs for
digging that guitar.
you the man
jimmy
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues"
2009/03/15 16:51:09
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Oh, this is swwweeeeeeet! I'm very impressed. Vox and instruments perfectly complement each other. Superb singing and playing, you guys. WOW!
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues"
2009/03/15 16:57:11
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great guitar work frank!!
let me know when your hittin' the Met Cafe.....I'll be there in the corner suckin on a brew!..lol
great job!
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues"
2009/03/15 17:11:23
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Thanks guys, I had re-encode so so the ending wouldn't get chopped off..
I'll remix soon, and get rid of some of the mud...
Thank you Jimmy for a really cool song...
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues"
2009/03/15 17:11:58
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Golden. This is sitting real perty.  I luv it. bass is too hot but i love that too. balance is for sissies.
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues"
2009/03/15 17:20:55
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**** QUICK SOMEONE GRAB THE FIRE EXTINGUISHER, JIMMY'S ON FIRE !!! **** Nothin but smoke all over the place ... Man .... This is **** SMOLDERING HOT **** ..... Yeah, the bass is hot and distinguisheable .... I like it ... it's got such a solid sound ... just back it down a tad .. and keep it distinguisheable!!!! Really Sweet Vocals ... Jimmy Can Sing!!! .... Nice Tune ... Jimmy Can play Da Blues .... and the Guitar. I think Shad is right about the mix ... a little muddy, but there is something to be said about posting this as it is, as Frank calls it ... bogarting the production ... No need for coverups because there ain't none, Sounds are raw but true to the instruments (You get to hear it just like it was done!)  I really enjoyed being able to listen to it in this form!!! So what else can I say except, Frank .... You never disappoint .... I really have to say that this has both of Your Styles! Geeze Frank, such pure expression coupled with a very nice tone!!!! (I like that little choppin effect, So apropos) Nice harmonica and Organ bits that really supplement this tune ... Just awesome .... Only comments... I would have really loved to hear both of you going back and forth ( Question / Answer Style ) on one of these verses. That would have cemented this compilation of talents for me  *** AWESOME STUFF SMOLDERING *** -TAP-
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues"
2009/03/15 17:21:03
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Yeah, that bass is punching me in the head Frank, great song though, and some tasty riffs. Who's playing the harp?
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues"
2009/03/15 17:27:26
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Frank/Jimmy - awesome collab! Great song. Very tasty.
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues"
2009/03/15 17:52:33
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I think the harp player caught on fire too! they all did. You know this is the kind of music that I love to play.. The bass isn't too hot for me but is it ever? Jimmyman, best vox I've ever heard from you. Some nice collabs comin' off this board. Frank, what do you run your harp through? Hot, hot, hot! I'm chillin' now and here comes the guitar again. Thanks, guys, this old blues guy is in heaven!
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues"
2009/03/15 19:01:05
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Just a FANTASTIC performance from both of you. This has to be one of my all time favorites on the forum. That was just SMOKIN! Frank BRAVO on the harp and guitar performance. Everything about this song was just ear candy. KUDOS, gentlemen!
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues"
2009/03/15 19:01:17
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Thanks all...
New Mix...
I recorded a real bass guitar part this time... the old version was done with my midi keyboard...
I also did some panning, and processed the guitar and harp with the Re-Valver plugin...
I left the old mix up for comparison...
Please let me know how it sounds now...
Thanks...
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues"
2009/03/15 19:03:51
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Great job guys - this is another good collab. The harp sections are excellent, and the guitar work too.
Great job on vox as well - you can definitely sing the blues.
I like the bass in the mix, but I hear what you mean - it's right on the edge.
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues"
2009/03/15 20:21:20
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Wow, you've been busy, Jimmy! :-) Great song, both of you! Is that a piano in the background? It sounds pretty far back, but it works. :-)
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues"
2009/03/15 20:54:06
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ORIGINAL: notnat
I also did some panning, and processed the guitar and harp with the Re-Valver plugin... Hi, notnat, Dang, I've been playing guitar for 39 years trying to learn to play the blues like you do. Really sweet playing, just beautiful. Love the harp and vocal, too. Aw, heck, the whole thing is smokin' hot from a playing/singing standpoint. I am humbled and I hope that, one day, I might get half as good as you are playing blues guitar. My only observation from a technical standpoint is that the lead guitar sounds like it's in a different room than the rest of the band to me. It's like there is an ambiance (reverb? delay?) on the lead that is from a different sized room and I'm hearing early reflections (or something like that) that I'm not hearing in the vocal, harp or other instruments. Nothing wrong with that, but it sticks out on my system and makes the guitar sound like it's standing by itself, apart from the rest of the band, mix wise. It could be just my system and my room that makes me hear it this way so take this comment with a grain of salt. Great damned playing and a very nice song. You and Jimmy have done a really good thing here. Congratulations. Oh, and I hate you. ;>) Best regards, Bill
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues"
2009/03/15 21:02:05
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ORIGINAL: Mamabear
Wow, you've been busy, Jimmy! :-) Great song, both of you! Is that a piano in the background? It sounds pretty far back, but it works. :-)
Yes that is a simple little piano part... I buried it after I played the National slide guiter part which I liked better... Good ear... Thanks for listening...
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues"
2009/03/15 23:54:42
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ORIGINAL: Cromberger
ORIGINAL: notnat
I also did some panning, and processed the guitar and harp with the Re-Valver plugin...
Hi, notnat,
Dang, I've been playing guitar for 39 years trying to learn to play the blues like you do. Really sweet playing, just beautiful. Love the harp and vocal, too. Aw, heck, the whole thing is smokin' hot from a playing/singing standpoint. I am humbled and I hope that, one day, I might get half as good as you are playing blues guitar.
My only observation from a technical standpoint is that the lead guitar sounds like it's in a different room than the rest of the band to me. It's like there is an ambiance (reverb? delay?) on the lead that is from a different sized room and I'm hearing early reflections (or something like that) that I'm not hearing in the vocal, harp or other instruments. Nothing wrong with that, but it sticks out on my system and makes the guitar sound like it's standing by itself, apart from the rest of the band, mix wise. It could be just my system and my room that makes me hear it this way so take this comment with a grain of salt.
Great damned playing and a very nice song. You and Jimmy have done a really good thing here. Congratulations. Oh, and I hate you. ;>)
Best regards,
Bill
Thanks for listening... funny, I used the same effect on the guitar and harmonica... I think...
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues"
2009/03/16 00:53:27
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ORIGINAL: notnat
Thanks for listening... funny, I used the same effect on the guitar and harmonica... I think...
You're right. I listened to the song the first two times on my monitors in my untreated room. Just now, I listened in my headphones and the guitar sounds just fine. It's got to be some weird standing waves/early reflections I'm hearing in my room. It sounds really great. Fantastic job! Best regards, Bill
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues" (new mix)
2009/03/16 01:28:04
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Hey Frank , Jimmy , you guys sound good together I listened to both mixes the new mix sounds more open & conveys the songs message more naturally nice tune, good playing & singing Kenny
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues" (new mix)
2009/03/16 10:25:59
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first ill speak of perception and by that i mean what things appear to be to me sounds like there is some rythem work barley noticable on the left side. and it sounds like you re recorded the solo and fill guitar work thats why i say perception because i dont know its a fact. also sounds like you did some work on the verb on vocals i like your new bass. the song has a more "hip" sound on this version. but the other one is good too. man i love em both! its all a matter of taste so with that said i wouldnt say anythings wrong with this mix, its very good i myself would do this. put a multi band comp (sonitus) on the bass. on the lowest band (80 herz down) set the knee to about 9 attack 0 release 2 to 500 or so. get it compressing 3 to 6 db the bring the level (gain) of that band up until it adds a smooth low end that doeasnt sound bassy so to speake just warn and full. go to the middle band of the comp wgere its 324 to 1262 herz and use the same settings but dont raise the gain and set the "knee" on that band to 30. and use as much as 6 to 9 db of comping Make sure attack is 0 on both bands i say this because this bass sounds better but the other one has a smoother (and more of) low end the harp on the left and guitar on the right are too hot and too far out. i cant say whether they need a touch of comping or not again thats taste but id bring them to the middle (just a little) more whats happening is they are jumping out in punch and level sort of sounding like they are coming from out of nowhere and jumping into your face. i like that i like i like that a lot its got style its just a little too strong. i think of what ive said as more what i do than any crits. now let me say frank man you just blow me away with your skills and how you can put things together like you do. i get a perception of allmost two differrent songs more than two different versions. isnt that COOL well after writing this i went back for another listen to the first verse of both versions. now i like the first one better. everything is smooth and balanced as well as full the second is thinner and wider without the warmth in the middle of the other one. i would guess some of us "old bluesers" would like the first ok my vote is the first version. thats my story and im sticking to it! till i change my mind LOL but man alive both are just to cool jimmy
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues" (new mix)
2009/03/16 12:25:57
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Thanks again Jimmy... I'm going to try out your EQ suggestions... I agree too, on the harp and guitar panning and volume...
I'll post a new mix soon...
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues" (new mix)
2009/03/16 12:27:53
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Bass in first version hands down. The first has wayyyyy more bass appeal. It's got that low crawl that really fills the room.
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues" (new mix)
2009/03/16 13:32:20
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That opening harmonica grabbed me. What a collab! That blues/jazz git playing is outstanding! Nice vox Jimmy! You guys are locked in tight. Very soulful performence gents!!
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues" (new mix)
2009/03/16 15:34:19
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Firing up the Remix now ....
Nice ... It really sounds significantly different? I think Jimmy's got you covered. I'd like to hear that Bass come back into the mix a bit more. It may just be me, but the Mouth Organ sounds is a bit too hot now.
There's things I like about both .... Especially the Singin and Playin .....!!!!!
You guys are just plain great, though!!!
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues" (new mix)
2009/03/16 16:22:02
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ORIGINAL: Tap
Firing up the Remix now ....
Nice ... It really sounds significantly different? I think Jimmy's got you covered. I'd like to hear that Bass come back into the mix a bit more. It may just be me, but the Mouth Organ sounds is a bit too hot now.
There's things I like about both .... Especially the Singin and Playin .....!!!!!
You guys are just plain great, though!!!
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Ok Tap, Jimmy,,, the final mix...
"Jimmy's Blues" I recorded a new bass part... again...
Bumped the piano and National slide...
Moved the harp and lead back a tad...
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues" (new mix)
2009/03/16 17:18:57
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FRANK FRANK FRANK
OH MY LIVEN SOUL. THE FIRE IS NOW A BOMB. LOOK OUT
I AINT NEVER HEARD NOTHING LIKE THIS OH MY GOSH
IM SPEACHLESS
WHOOOOOOOO TALK ABOUT BUESS?
CALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. NO WAIT CALL AN AMBULANCE
JIMMY JUST OVERDOSED ON THE BLUESS!
calling this beuatifull would be an understatment
YOU ARE THE MAN I MEAN YOU ARE THE MAN
let me see if can get off the floor and back in my chair now?
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues" (new mix)
2009/03/16 18:44:59
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ORIGINAL: jimmyman
FRANK FRANK FRANK
OH MY LIVEN SOUL. THE FIRE IS NOW A BOMB. LOOK OUT
I AINT NEVER HEARD NOTHING LIKE THIS OH MY GOSH
IM SPEACHLESS
WHOOOOOOOO TALK ABOUT BUESS?
CALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. NO WAIT CALL AN AMBULANCE
JIMMY JUST OVERDOSED ON THE BLUESS!
calling this beuatifull would be an understatment
YOU ARE THE MAN I MEAN YOU ARE THE MAN
let me see if can get off the floor and back in my chair now?
Thanks Jimmy, I think the final mix is happenin' . ORIGINAL: lhansen
That opening harmonica grabbed me. What a collab! That blues/jazz git playing is outstanding! Nice vox Jimmy! You guys are locked in tight. Very soulful performence gents!!
Thanks for listening Larry... Check out the final mix when you get a chance... ORIGINAL: No How
Bass in first version hands down. The first has wayyyyy more bass appeal. It's got that low crawl that really fills the room.
I agree... I think I've finally got it right now... plus I brought up the old National resonator and the piano a bit... Check it out now... Thanks...
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RE: "Jimmy's Blues" (new mix)
2009/03/16 20:06:58
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Yeah, nice groove here guys. That blues harp is so sweet. Tasty licks thoughout on this Frank. Nice smooth blues vocal Jimmy. I'd have "gritted" it up a little, but its real good this way too.
Mix is real solid, but one thing I noticed. The kick drum has a click, but no real "oomph". Noticed it with headphones too. Minor nit.
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