Japan's continuing problems

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2011/04/16 08:43:46 (permalink)

Japan's continuing problems

The earthquake and tsunami a month ago were bad enough. Now it seems that parts of Japan may be literally floating and or sinking.

Japan, in it's efforts to get more land for habitation and buildings, actually filled in part of a bay (Tokyo Bay). I recalled seeing something on this huge project a few years ago on a Nat Geo special. the feature was on the airport that was built on part of this land fill project.

What seemed like a good idea at the time, might now be a huge, expensive mistake.

I saw this video for the first time, this morning. It starts a bit slow, but stick with it and watch this amazing video shot, apparently, by a person from off the street with a video camera. In it you will see land, sidewalks, and streets acting like they are floating on water. One of the freaky places in the video occurs at about 6 minutes in where the kids playground has turned into a new pond..... keep watching because at just past 7 minutes, you can see the water gushing out of the crack as the 2 sections of land are moving back and forth, squeezing it out with each movement.... and, there is NO earthquake happening to cause the land to move..... it's apparently floating.

Video here

I think it's time to move if you just happened to live there. Since this is man made land, it will liquefy much easier than normal in a big quake. It looks like that might have happened, and if the base has liquefied, and water is obviously infiltrating the sub soil,  how long until it liquefies enough and a major disaster occurs there? 
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    Re:Japan's continuing problems 2011/04/16 09:01:52 (permalink)
    Thats sad and just the basic of construction I think. No matter how much ya think you can pack or settle something, its still never enuff.  With water, its gonna fail with a little shaking. Scary to see their situation there with this. 


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    Re:Japan's continuing problems 2011/04/16 09:18:56 (permalink)
    Liquefaction doesn't actually have anything to do with water, despite the name. It's a phenomenon in which loose soil starts to act as if it were a liquid when vibrated.

    When I studied geology in another life (I was a rockhound as a kid and once wanted to pursue geology as a career), we watched an amazing film about liquefaction that included both a laboratory demonstration and footage of entire buildings that had sunk into the earth. In one scene, residents are seen with wheelbarrows walking up and down the outside of their high-rise apartment building salvaging their belongings after the entire structure (though intact) had sunk to a 30 degree angle. That was shot in Japan in the 1950's.

    BTW, anyone here in the Pacific Northwest should know that a) we have a very similar subduction zone just off our coast, too, and b) our soil is glacial till that is particularly susceptible to liquefaction.


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    Re:Japan's continuing problems 2011/04/16 09:20:15 (permalink)
    oh geeesh...that is one spooky video...   

    The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate.

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    Re:Japan's continuing problems 2011/04/16 09:28:13 (permalink)
    In the late 1800's a quake hit Arkansas and the local witnesses say that the sands heaved in 40 foot "waves". Many small wooden houses rode out the event because the wavelengths were so large that the houses just floated on the surface.

    Seattle, San Fransisco, and Boston also have large areas built on swamp fill.


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    Re:Japan's continuing problems 2011/04/16 09:31:35 (permalink)

    I worked here right after the storm, I had never seen any thing quite like it:

    http://www.photosfromkatrina.com/listview-bay.htm


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    Re:Japan's continuing problems 2011/04/16 09:44:32 (permalink)
    Wow--that's unreal. 
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    Re:Japan's continuing problems 2011/04/16 12:06:09 (permalink)
    I hope and pray that safety will return to the region, and soon - lots of hurting people there.  

    Where I live in ND is some of the land covered by the prehistoric Lake Agassiz. Our current wet cycle has had the water table rising year after year... some wonder if part of the lake is returning for a time.  If you look at Devils Lake, (both the lake and community), it's amazing to see how much land has gone under the water in the last 15 years - the lake has risen over 20 feet.  And we're downstream...




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    Re:Japan's continuing problems 2011/04/16 12:21:05 (permalink)
    In the late 1800's a quake hit Arkansas and the local witnesses say that the sands heaved in 40 foot "waves". Many small wooden houses rode out the event because the wavelengths were so large that the houses just floated on the surface. 



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1812_New_Madrid_earthquake

    There are worries...

    http://maxi-pulsa.com/new-madrid-fault-arkansas-earthquakes-spur-fears-in-the-midwest/

    http://geology.com/news/2011/hazard-in-the-new-madrid-seismic-zone.shtml

    The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate.

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