Jazz for Halloween: Frankentstein

Author
Marko
Max Output Level: -83 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 364
  • Joined: 2004/02/23 22:44:02
  • Status: offline
2005/10/22 21:15:28 (permalink)

Jazz for Halloween: Frankentstein

This Halloween piece consists mostly of piano (Bosendorfer290), bass (Larry Seyer) and drums (Stormdrum), and a bit of incidental percussion. It's a straight ahead jazz piece. Be warned: this is laced with all sorts of blood curdling sounds. As Count Floyd would say, "Very scary".

Frankenstein

Please lend me your ears and let me know what you think.

Marko
#1

17 Replies Related Threads

    mewsician2
    Max Output Level: -69 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1078
    • Joined: 2005/07/30 16:51:55
    • Location: South of Chicago
    • Status: offline
    RE: Jazz for Halloween: Frankentstein 2005/10/22 21:27:24 (permalink)
    Nice little Jazz ditty.
    the "scary" stuff made me smile.

    Regards,
    post edited by mewsician2 - 2005/10/22 21:35:55
    #2
    GPM
    Max Output Level: -83 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 396
    • Joined: 2005/10/07 13:00:28
    • Location: Beautiful Oregon Coast
    • Status: offline
    RE: Jazz for Halloween: Frankentstein 2005/10/23 01:58:36 (permalink)
    Sounds like a joint I played in last weekend! Most excellent......Good work Count Basie.....I mean Count Dracula!
    #3
    Paul Russell
    Max Output Level: -36.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 3892
    • Joined: 2003/11/06 23:52:18
    • Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
    • Status: offline
    RE: Jazz for Halloween: Frankentstein 2005/10/23 02:00:33 (permalink)
    Your girlfriend's a bit of a screamer.
    Piano would sound a lot better without so much verb, in fact so would the whole mix. Toms need a bit of thickening with compression and EQ, and I'd bring the cymbals down a bit and the skins up a bit.

    Paul Russell 
    Calamity Studio and on Facebook



    #4
    ed_mcg
    Max Output Level: -48 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2741
    • Joined: 2004/04/26 11:22:59
    • Location: Minneapolis
    • Status: offline
    RE: Jazz for Halloween: Frankentstein 2005/10/23 10:31:39 (permalink)
    Wow, where do you come up with these things?!
    I really liked it!

    Did you actually play the piano part? It's like McCoy Tyner and Cecil Taylor having a contest to see how far out they can take Monk.

    Bass samples really work will.

    Did you do the drum programming or are these some patterns included in Stormdrum, and if the later are they audio or midi loops?

    Thanks, I got a kick out this!
    #5
    Marko
    Max Output Level: -83 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 364
    • Joined: 2004/02/23 22:44:02
    • Status: offline
    RE: Jazz for Halloween: Frankentstein 2005/10/23 14:44:20 (permalink)
    Thanks Stephen.

    Thanks Guitarplayingman.

    Thanks Paul.
    I agree. I think this mix is too wet. I am usually quite conservative with my application of reverb. I did another mix and this one is much drier. However, the tom toms are still a problem. I have to find a better drum kit for my jazz pieces.

    Frankenstein2 (dry)

    Let me know if you think this new mix is dry enough or perhaps too dry.

    I wish I could get my girlfriend to scream like this.


    Thanks Ed.
    No loops. That's me playing everything from the keyboard controller (but there were a lot of mistakes in the piano solo that I corrected). No drum programming, but I did edit the drum fills at the end of some measures and occasionally had to the tighten up the ride cymbal and rim hits by sliding the MIDI events a few clock ticks closer to the bass line. The bass was probably the hardest part for me to play without it sounding terribly repetitious.


    Wow! Cecil and McCoy. They're two of my gods.

    By the way, there's a cut on Mulgrew Miller's Live at Yoshi's (volume 2) titled "Joshua". A very inspiring piece. I've been listening to it a lot lately.


    Let me know which mix you prefer.


    Marko
    #6
    Nubian1234
    Max Output Level: -88 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 135
    • Joined: 2004/03/20 15:33:44
    • Location: Houston,Texas
    • Status: offline
    RE: Jazz for Halloween: Frankentstein 2005/10/24 08:30:21 (permalink)
    Marko

    Man sounds like you were having fun.I like it a lot.

    Michael
    #7
    ed_mcg
    Max Output Level: -48 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2741
    • Joined: 2004/04/26 11:22:59
    • Location: Minneapolis
    • Status: offline
    RE: Jazz for Halloween: Frankentstein 2005/10/24 10:07:53 (permalink)
    Frankenstein2 (dry)
    Let me know if you think this new mix is dry enough or perhaps too dry.

    Sounds better. Still a bit wet, but I think it works well.

    Hey, we have do a tune together. If you want to do a progressive / free jazz piece, I'll do the bass track.
    #8
    Marko
    Max Output Level: -83 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 364
    • Joined: 2004/02/23 22:44:02
    • Status: offline
    RE: Jazz for Halloween: Frankentstein 2005/10/24 23:32:16 (permalink)
    Thanks Michael. Glad you like it.

    Ed,

    Sounds good to me. I'll lug my piano and drums to your place.

    So how do we do it?

    Marko
    #9
    ed_mcg
    Max Output Level: -48 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2741
    • Joined: 2004/04/26 11:22:59
    • Location: Minneapolis
    • Status: offline
    RE: Jazz for Halloween: Frankentstein 2005/10/25 08:01:49 (permalink)
    Marko,
    Ok, but my music room is on the 3rd floor; have you been eating your Wheaties?

    One of us comes up with the concept / form and makes the project file and will normal end up being the mixer/producer. This person lays down enough of scratch track to get going. Usually it some canned drums and some simple chords on piano/keys - at least this works on pop/rock/structured music.

    Next the project is tranferred to the other in mp3, .cwp of even as a midi file. Sometimes both if there are tempo / time sig changes. This guys adds his bit on. On something more improvisational, there may be a couple exchanges, to go back and add some interaction.

    The best approach is to get the rhythm track down and then add the lead lines; and the trick is to not have the rhythm track not overwhelm / consume all the space.

    Which Sonar product do you use? I'm using SP5, but if you're using a different version we can save the project as a midi file and use that as a template.

    We can continue the rest of this via email, you can reach me at ed_mcg via hotmail.
    #10
    den121961
    Max Output Level: -88 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 149
    • Joined: 2003/12/28 14:49:39
    • Status: offline
    RE: Jazz for Halloween: Frankentstein 2005/10/25 11:13:26 (permalink)
    Hey, this one's my kind of music (well, the screams are a bit out of my normal listening genre). As far as the bass goes, it didn't seem that repititious to me, you varied things quite a bit. I really enjoyed the piano playing too, and you're probably going to hate me for this as a fellow jazzer, but did I hear some Keith Emerson influence in this one?

    Den
    #11
    CapnSpanky
    Max Output Level: -79 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 581
    • Joined: 2003/11/20 13:15:12
    • Location: Nashville, TN
    • Status: offline
    RE: Jazz for Halloween: Frankentstein 2005/10/25 13:33:16 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Marko
    Please lend me your ears and let me know what you think.

    Marko

    Nice playing, Marko! Piano sounds good too. At first, I wan't sure if I liked the scary sounds in the background. But I think it does add an interesting element to the tune.

    Tim Wells
    -------
    Cap'n Spanky
    From the Planet Screwball
    #12
    low_z
    Max Output Level: -88 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 101
    • Joined: 2003/12/05 15:41:02
    • Location: Houston, TX
    • Status: offline
    RE: Jazz for Halloween: Frankentstein 2005/10/25 14:07:25 (permalink)
    Cool piece, this kind of jazzy piano always reminds me of the interludes on Mr. Roger's Neighborhood, an alternate title could be "A Very Bad Day in the Land of Make Believe."
    #13
    Marko
    Max Output Level: -83 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 364
    • Joined: 2004/02/23 22:44:02
    • Status: offline
    RE: Jazz for Halloween: Frankentstein 2005/10/25 23:58:31 (permalink)
    Thanks Den. Keith Emerson? Well, I haven't listened to his music in a long time, but who knows where my muse lies!

    Thanks Tim.

    Low z. That's a great title for a piece. I can imagine Mr Rogers putting on a very soiled pair of sneakers and wearing a torn sweater.


    Thanks for listening to my tune.

    Marko
    #14
    hornplayer
    Max Output Level: -70 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1024
    • Joined: 2004/05/04 03:24:04
    • Location: Sacramento
    • Status: offline
    RE: Jazz for Halloween: Frankentstein 2005/10/26 00:59:54 (permalink)
    Actually, really good for a one-man jazz band. It, of course, would be really cool to hear with live drums and bass. I bet you could talk Ed into bass. Know any drummers who owe you a favor?

    If you're going to keep the performances you have, maybe you could at least think about how this group would sound live. What I mean is, everyone is on top of each other. Maybe that's why there's so much screaming going on? But, seriously, maybe narrow the stereo width of the piano and move it to one side, put the drums in the center, and move the bass a bit to the other side. Or something like that. I'll have to get out some of my piano trio jazz CDs and listen to how they have them panned, but I'm sure that they are spread out more naturally. I wouldn't mix this like a pop mix.

    Again, nice job. It's great to hear some different things around here! Best to ya!

    #15
    Guest
    Max Output Level: -25.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 4951
    • Joined: 2009/08/03 10:50:51
    • Status: online
    RE: Jazz for Halloween: Frankentstein 2005/10/26 11:12:30 (permalink)
    i agree with charley ( i sound like that guy in blazing saddles "howard johnson is right!" .. all
    the time parrotting what charley says ;-) ) but he's right .. go with a simple combo mix (everybody has their spatial
    position) and life is good. and .. i agree with the scream comment .. everytime i thought this settled
    into some groove or was waiting for the cool off between the transitions .. a scream happened ..
    which disturbed the piece for me more than enhanced it. i know it's the season and all .. but
    they didn't mesh too well. that said .. i dig the jazz . i don't have enough RDJ (recommended daily
    jazz) as of late.

    jeff
    #16
    Marko
    Max Output Level: -83 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 364
    • Joined: 2004/02/23 22:44:02
    • Status: offline
    RE: Jazz for Halloween: Frankentstein 2005/10/28 12:18:18 (permalink)
    Thanks Charley.

    I'll have to listen carefully to the mixes on some of my Blue Note recordings to get a better idea.


    Thanks Jeff. I agree: Howard Johnson is right.
    As for the screams and moans, think of them as soloists.

    Keep taking your recommended daily dosage. It's probably healthy to overdose on jazz once in a while.


    Marko
    #17
    montezuma
    Max Output Level: -50 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2520
    • Joined: 2004/10/07 03:44:28
    • Location: Australia
    • Status: offline
    RE: Jazz for Halloween: Frankentstein 2005/10/29 16:39:22 (permalink)
    Sweet jazz, sounds like good stuff.
    #18
    Jump to:
    © 2024 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1