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Jerky Now time
Just updated my operating system to win7 x64 from the 32 bit version. seems mostly o.k. on my ageing machine except for the now time line jerking about a bar at a time, music plays in time despite this.
I think it's the video card driver problem, but there are no fresh drivers just the microsoft wddm version. it's a Radeon x1050 card searches reveal no drivers for win7 but it worked fine on 32 bit.
So do I need a new card ????.
If so any recomendations for a dual head PCI-E card.
Thank peaple.
Roy
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/13 14:02:17
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I know there is a Preference setting that will lower the Graphics priority, which will make the now-time jerky, but I would assume this: Watching your CPU in the DAW GUI, if the Now time marker is jerky, but the audio is fine, and the CPU doesn't spike to above 80%, then I suspect the video driver, yes.
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/13 14:02:45
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the now time line jerking about a bar at a time, music plays in time despite this.
Try pressing the "Pause|Break" key (upper right) on your keyboard.
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/13 14:33:23
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Sounds like a good band name.
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/13 14:59:55
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I thought that something with adjusting a playback buffer helped with this - I think FastBikerBoy had made posts about that some time ago.
I have to run out the door - maybe someone else recalls this?
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/13 15:08:46
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It's because the pause key is pressed, almost certainly.
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/13 15:14:07
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You guys are absolutely right it's the pause break key. whats that all about just checked the shortcut list cant see pause used for anything. but it works and you guys saved me buying a new video card. Much appreciated.
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/13 15:24:35
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That pause key thing has gotten me many times. My biggest complaint against Sonar is all the shortcut keys: there are lots and if you bump one and don't know which one you hit, you can go nuts trying to figure out what's wrong.
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Re:Jerky Now time
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/13 16:27:15
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Thanks Scook that explains it. Never knew about that one. Your right Konradh if I was doing this on laptop I'd be turning allsorts of stuff on and off.
Best Roy
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/13 16:36:34
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The Scroll Lock's another one - this has been the solution to "my disappearing now time" for many of the unaware.
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/13 16:39:04
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konradh
That pause key thing has gotten me many times. My biggest complaint against Sonar is all the shortcut keys: there are lots and if you bump one and don't know which one you hit, you can go nuts trying to figure out what's wrong.
There's a good idea here in the making (maybe). Key-command groups with Enable/Disable functionality. How it could work is that in Preferences you could Enable/Disable ALL keystrokes, and then you can Enable/Disable 10 specific "groups" of keystroke commands. Then, you could go to the mappings section (another Menu area) and assign each key command to one of the groups. And here's an added bonus. Notice I said 10 groups above. One per.......Screen? Wouldn't it be cool to have keystrokes that can be assigned, enabled, disabled, or....re-used based on what window you have open? I'm in over my head with suggestions here, that I'm being silly and over-the-top, but I agree that we all 'bump' keys we don't mean to, and that's frustrating when "whatever you did" doesn't give you an indication as to whether you need to press Ctrl+Z for an Undo or not.
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/13 16:45:14
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One of the easiest ways to avoid a lot of the problems that I have seen on this forum with keyboard shortcuts is to avoid creating single key bindings. It is just to easy to accidentally trigger a function when it is bound to a single keystroke.
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/13 17:01:55
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With the new "touch" features, I imagine it gets better. Until then, a history-selective based Undo would be cool, or at least be able to see if what you accidentally did changed something.
I'd like to see a plug-in change Undo.
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/13 17:10:04
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I'd like to see a plug-in change Undo. What, an Fx bin plugin change? Undo has always worked for this. Or do you mean a parameter tweak? Now that would be useful.
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/13 17:20:37
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Parameter tweak. Even a fader move.
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/14 06:52:36
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Not an undo as such, but if you inadvertently move a fader, right click it and select "Revert to nn.ndB"
This has the bonus that every fader always retains it's last position before you move it, so you can go away and do all sorts of editing and then come back and still make the "revert" selection
Undo of course only undoes the last action
Many controls have this feature, not just the main fader
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/14 09:45:58
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Can one sever a key binding? I would think that either completely disabling a particular binding would be helpful, if one repeatedly causes confusion through errant keystrokes on a regular basis.
Or possible better, take those kinds of key bindings and alter them to use combinations of keys, rather than single key binding effect.
Just a thought.
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/14 09:55:48
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There is an unbind button in the keyboard shortcut screen.
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/14 10:01:50
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Thanks - I thought so, but never messed with bindings, other than to look through them from time to time.
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/14 10:20:48
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I don't think you can unbind a lot of the built in ones, but I haven't tried for a while.
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/14 10:30:52
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Probably not, my initial comments were more of a question about the decision to use single key bindings in the first place. It would be nice to be able to remove/replace the single key bindings.
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/14 10:43:28
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Yes, it would save us all from the odd "accident"
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/14 10:47:14
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@Royarn. You might try updating your motherboard BIOS and chipset drivers, also under system properties -> Advanced make sure performance is set for windows chosing "what's best for my computer". I agree most likely graphics card drivers though.
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/14 12:15:10
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For anyone new reading this, e turns effects off and on and that one scared the hell out of me when I first hit it by accident. All the Meldoyne instances dimmed out which is exactly how they look when Melodyne can't find its files! I thought I had lost 40 hours of work. (Meldoyne has lost files before so my fear was reasonable.)
Luckily it was just the pesky shortcut key thing.
So, attention newbies: "e" will turn reverb, Meldoyne, Guitar Rig, etc off and on all all tracks. Could be handy but also scary.
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/14 12:18:30
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Very handy if you think you've 'finished' tracking, are well into mixing and then decide you want to add "just one more part" 
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/14 14:03:15
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Thanks CakeAlexS had that set right, I've done chipset update today after your suggestion even though my original problem is solved, I'm struggling to find my bios update, but I'm working on it.
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Re:Jerky Now time
2013/02/14 14:04:26
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I've used the "e" shortcut, very useful indeed, if it's intended.
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