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John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James


Our cover of this "Real Fine" John Hiatt song.


Real Fine Love <-- Soundcloud Link

Vocals - Randy Prier
Guitars - Randy & James Griffiths
Solos - James
Bass, Drums, Piano & Production - Ed "Bapu" Kocol


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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/27 15:32:23 (permalink)
    Good job Bapu. This sounds great! Good clear mix too.'

    Great job on the lead guitar too James.
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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/27 19:20:47 (permalink)
    Thanks Robby. I Am pretty proud of this mix. Could some things be tweaked? Probably, but overall we (collectively) are happy with how it turned out.
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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/27 20:22:42 (permalink)
    Compared to the original this has a really overall harsh tonality to it. The vocals need some work and miss the mark here and there. The guitar tones though are great, however there are some stumbles towards the end of the first solo where it sounds like notes were slammed in at the last few bars. At about the 3:45 mark in a later solo, the guitarist just is completely off.
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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/27 22:28:33 (permalink)
    I wasn't really paying attention to the vocals I guess? And I wasn't familiar with the original so I had nothing to compare it to. I went back and listened again at 3:45? It still sounded good... But I wasn't comparing it to anything other than what I like. I know folks try to cover things sometimes and make it "exact..." I know this because I work with one of the best people on the forum for covers? Mr. Markno999... "He is a perfectionist?" And there is something to be said for this? However, I also appreciate people who do covers, and add "something original?" to the cover. Again not having heard the original, I am not making a comparison either way. 

    But I know what sounds good? :-) And what sounds like it was shot from the barrel of a pistol? LOL!

    (I'm sorry for that right there Lord.)
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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/27 22:32:32 (permalink)
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    I wasn't really paying attention to the vocals I guess? And I wasn't familiar with the original so I had nothing to compare it to. I went back and listened again at 3:45? It still sounded good... But I wasn't comparing it to anything other than what I like. I know folks try to cover things sometimes and make it "exact..." I know this because I work with one of the best people on the forum for covers? Mr. Markno999... "He is a perfectionist?" And there is something to be said for this? However, I also appreciate people who do covers, and add "something original?" to the cover. Again not having heard the original, I am not making a comparison either way. 

    But I know what sounds good? :-) And what sounds like it was shot from the barrel of a pistol? LOL!

    (I'm sorry for that right there Lord.)

    Thanks for a couple of things Robby. First for you nice comments. Secondly for not quoting the post above yours. I've had that clown on block for years now, and I'm glad I can read a comment without seeing his.


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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/27 22:43:52 (permalink)
    Oh that Randy? Yeah I liked the vocals? And I am a singer :-) The chorus was tight, the verse is a bit looser, but it's like you put your style on it? Please do not misinterpret "looser?" I do things tighter and looser... You have to be able to do this as a singer IMO. If you don't? It doesn't sound "like you." People can choose to like you or not? But you need to sound like you. And I listened again and thought the vocals were "excellent throughout."
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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/27 23:33:04 (permalink)
    I forgot to mention that the mix should be softened up a bit on the high end. That's what maybe makes it sound a bit harsh. Since Randy has his fingers in his ears when I comment, I guess he won't know that I said the guitar tones were nice. But I guess that's how it is when people have such closed minds. They don't want to hear anything from those with different opinions that theirs. I took the time to listen to the song and give my honest thoughts.
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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/27 23:49:59 (permalink)
    Ummm, ahhh, it may have something to do with the delivery? 

    For example, if HR is asking for someone's opinion on an employee's performance? And you have strong feelings? You may recommend remedial action? With a performance improvement plan? (PIM) 

    Or you may respond like this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XchwE9zVdnw

    The two responses may carry a similar inner meaning? However, they may be perceived differently?  

    (I'm sorry for that right there Lord, and please be with the Pygmies in New Guinea...)   

    Still in all, I think the performances, delivery, recording and engineering were quite good. But my ears are not as good as some of the mix masters. 

     


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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/28 01:08:38 (permalink)
    Mighty fine job, fellas.  

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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/28 03:01:03 (permalink)
    Had lots of fun doing this, thanks guys.

     
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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/28 07:25:10 (permalink)


    That sounded like a Perfectly Good Vocal*

    The chorus was where it really shined.












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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/28 12:25:59 (permalink)
    Not concious of hearing the original but aware of the originals "sound".

    Sounds perfectly fine here, actually Ed this is one of the best mixes of yours I have heard.  Very open lots of air and space nice job.
    Good job all round chaps good stuff.




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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/28 13:01:44 (permalink)
    Gents!  I'm not familiar with the original.  I guess it doesn't matter.  I really liked this.  I enjoyed everything about this:  Vocal, Guitars and mix.
     
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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/28 13:31:07 (permalink)
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    However, I also appreciate people who do covers, and add "something original?" to the cover. Again not having heard the original, I am not making a comparison either way. 


    Thanks for that Robby. If I get asked to provide a solo, I like to try and put something of myself into it, so I didn't pay much attention to the original in this case, whereas with the Pink Floyd spoof, doing the 'Money' solo note for note was the only way to go.


    I don't hear anything 'off' at 3:45, but I do at 4:02. 

     
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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/28 13:34:03 (permalink)
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    I don't hear anything 'off' at 3:45, but I do at 4:02. 

    For me the song ends at 4:15 so your player must run fast
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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/28 13:47:28 (permalink)


    Hey baps... did you get the pun?

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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/28 14:43:54 (permalink)
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    Hey baps... did you get the pun?

    ;-] 

    As a hard core JH fan I would have to say YA!!!
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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/28 21:33:05 (permalink)
    I've never heard this song.

    You guys did an excellent job. Great musicianship all around. (applause!)

    Well done on the mix Bapu!

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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/28 22:34:25 (permalink)
    Radio ready vibe and tone.  Killer production, really fine.  The solo was melodic and tasteful, just the way I like 'em. 

    Great job guys! 

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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/29 11:42:21 (permalink)
    Hi All, sounds mighty fine to me.

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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/29 14:55:56 (permalink)
    Thanks to everyone for the nice comments. Also, a special thanks to Ed for asking me to be on this. I hadn't recorded anything in quite awhile, and at our lunch in L.A., Ed mentioned he might want to take a crack at this song someday. I don't thing either of us thought it would be this soon. Along with the vocal tracks, I also sent him 4 electric guitar tracks and an acoustic track. I can hear most of them weaving in and out with James's track, and it sounds really nice to me. Thanks again everybody. Randy

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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/29 22:08:05 (permalink)
    I think if you are going to cover a song, that you should at least have the courtesy to the original artist to at least listen to their version. It's a matter of respect, even if you aren't going to sound the same.
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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/29 22:32:19 (permalink)
    Have these people done something to offend you personally? Because that's how it looks... You should lighten up a little pete. Nobody died? And no one said anything about anyone's mother. And an argument can be made that they do sound pretty good. So to argue too aggressively against that is to present either an unbalanced/unstable (FROM ME!?) image, or one that is vindictive for some reason. 

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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/30 00:28:19 (permalink)
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    However, I also appreciate people who do covers, and add "something original?" to the cover. Again not having heard the original, I am not making a comparison either way. 


    Thanks for that Robby. If I get asked to provide a solo, I like to try and put something of myself into it, so I didn't pay much attention to the original in this case, whereas with the Pink Floyd spoof, doing the 'Money' solo note for note was the only way to go.



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    I think if you are going to cover a song, that you should at least have the courtesy to the original artist to at least listen to their version. It's a matter of respect, even if you aren't going to sound the same.

    Mr. PP,

    I happen to know that both Randy and I have seen John Hiatt live at least five time each and I know we both own CDs by him. Given that this song is one of his staples (IOW, I've seen him 8 times live and he has never once NOT played this song) I'm pretty sure Randy has heard it live more than once too. I also know that James and Randy are fans of JH and therefore even if they've never played the song in a band both jumped at the opportunity to play the song on this collab (out of being fans of JH's work).

    As I see it, you seem to have taken James highlighted (bold in red) statement above as "never heard the song" when in fact I'm pretty positive he has since he asked me (before providing any tracks and hearing the project at that point) "who's doing the delayed guitar?" Well, did James ever listen to the song? UH DUH-UHHH!!!! How would he know about the delayed guitar?

    Bottom line is, we all three have listened to the song (at least once but I'm sure quite a few times each) and decided to do a different take on it. I did not play any of the original bass lines in the song, by choice. The drums are not the same, by choice. We wind the song on chorus soloing, by choice, but the original song ends on verse soloing. The original song fades in the soloing and we end on struck chord, by choice. I believe it's call interpretation.

    I'd like to suggest if you want to hear an exact cover of the song HERE IT IS but DO NOT go to John Hiatt concert expecting to hear an exact cover as I can tell you I have heard him do it differently EVERY TIME I have seen him. Dang his eyes, what's he thinking?

    Earlier you commented on the production. I'll not agree or disagree. You're opinion is yours to share. And I respect that you shared it.

    But when you twist facts, with no knowledge, such as implying some (if not all) of us "having not listened to a song" that's just plain rude, IMHO.


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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/30 00:59:35 (permalink)
    Yeah, it's a good thing that it's a forum? <<>>
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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/30 03:28:58 (permalink)
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    Have these people done something to offend you personally? Because that's how it looks... You should lighten up a little pete. Nobody died? And no one said anything about anyone's mother. And an argument can be made that they do sound pretty good. So to argue too aggressively against that is to present either an unbalanced/unstable (FROM ME!?) image, or one that is vindictive for some reason. 

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakuna_matata

    Yeah, a few of us seem like the flame to his moth. Best thing is to ignore him, otherwise you end up with a thread full of nonsense.

     
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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/30 05:14:56 (permalink)
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    Have these people done something to offend you personally? Because that's how it looks... You should lighten up a little pete. Nobody died? And no one said anything about anyone's mother. And an argument can be made that they do sound pretty good. So to argue too aggressively against that is to present either an unbalanced/unstable (FROM ME!?) image, or one that is vindictive for some reason. 

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakuna_matata

    Yeah, a few of us seem like the flame to his moth. Best thing is to ignore him, otherwise you end up with a thread full of nonsense.

    Well said. Advice taken.
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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/30 07:47:36 (permalink)


    Hey Baps,

     Mr. H gave one of my buddies a perfectly good guitar once.

     We still got it hanging out if you ever need the authentic vibe of a Korean Epiphone Les Paul.


     :-)

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    Re:John Hiatt Cover - Real Fine Love - featuring Randy & James 2013/01/30 08:16:48 (permalink)
    Apparently you guys are confused as to who has heard the cover or not. As for Mr. H's Les Paul, hopefully he signed it and you got a picture of him with it.
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