Jumped into the pool, only to find bugs in the water...

So I bit the bullet and upgraded to X3 (against my better judgement)
ONLY because I sold my copy of Addictive Drums for $50,
which made the upgrade price $99 AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN in the first place.

That being said....lots of issues (non show stopping)

Softube VST 3 Plugins have no presets.  Softube VST2 plugs do...

Non of my Waves plugins in old projects are recognized when
opening in X3...get a pop up with CLSID not found etc...and
I NEVER CHANGE NAMES...EVER, so that's not the problem...

Breverb adjustment during playback cause Pops and Crackles and the
plugin interface is very jumpy when adjusting during playback...
(Breverb in the effects bin - Not PC)

Can't get Custom Colors to work (probably my ignorance) but the
methodology here in the colors is terrible...should be able to right click
on a track in Console view, or in the inspector, or track view, and pick a color from a
"Choose Color" menu item...not go through 400 things to get this done...
same with clips and backgrounds...


Adding ONE (1) Waves plugin to an existing X2 project opened in X3 causes CPU overload...
All this in the first hour on X3b....

NO CRASHES....NONE....and that's a good thing....

Here's to hoping that X3c get's things in a better place...
Always something with Sonar...not show stopping, but
very annoying to have to always use "Workarounds" to
get things to behave.  I know about the other Waves and UAD issues...

Likes....

The Tape Emulator

The flyout PC QuadCurve EQ (AWESOME)

BlueTubes are ok...no biggy for me..but they work...would have been nice
to have them as PC Modules...

BiFilter - really don't use it so can't comment...
(I did try it out..it's ok)

Lounge Lizard sounds good...nothing spectacular, but good...

Toast notifications and background VST Scanning - AWESOME
(1307 BTW - and I know I can't come close to Bapu )

Melodyne/ARA integration - AWESOME

I'll take the good with the not so good...as always...

I'll post more as I dig deeper into the abyss...

Ok, let the thrashings begin....

 I still haven't jumped yet on X3. I plan to do it soon though.
 
 I decided this was the year to replace my central A/C with a heat pump. This has pretty much consumed my free time( and my wallet) for the last several days. I would always rather be trying out X3 than wallowing around in an attic that I had to grease myself to fit into. I didn't want to try X3 in a cold house.
 
 I guess there are two choices regarding X3. Either become an early adopter and risk having "issues" or wait a  bit and see if some of the problems get ironed out.  I have been pretty fortunate in the past being an early adopter. The Waves plug-in thing is a big deal if you use a lot of Waves plugs. I think this either has been addressed or is being adressed by reading upstairs. Hope you get it sorted to your liking.

cclarry
Toast notifications and background VST Scanning - AWESOME
(1307 BTW - and I know I can't come close to Bapu )

Actually you're no slouch. I'm at 1370 but I have not verified that I have installed all the take downs I was "forced" to do.
 
Maybe the only difference is you have more free plugs than me? Not bragging but I believe I have less than 10 free plugins.

paulo

bapu
 
Maybe the only difference is you have more free plugs than me? Not bragging but actually I believe I have less than 10 free plugins. Am.

Fixed.

there are certainly bugs lurking in the VST3 implementation...I guess not surprisingly as its first shot..but to give credit CW are on top of most issues so far..
 
In my case the Virus Ti VST3 (known working) is corrupted by x3 ..at least I have VST2..
 
don't see the breverb issues you do..
kinda like the colors, am certainly ok with how its implemented... I never used them on 8.5.3 so a new workflow is fine... so far have just set for busses and associated tracks and it is helpful
was meh about the bluetubes prior, but have used them and some of them are decent, not sure whether its a big plus but were free.
 
still some minor errors in the midi take lanes.. a collapsed set of lanes will show muted clips, but its a big plus over x1 and x2
 
oh and welcome back!
 
 
 

Mystic38
there are certainly bugs lurking in the VST3 implementation...I guess not surprisingly as its first shot..but to give credit CW are on top of most issues so far..
 
In my case the Virus Ti VST3 (known working) is corrupted by x3 ..at least I have VST2..
 
don't see the breverb issues you do..
kinda like the colors, am certainly ok with how its implemented... I never used them on 8.5.3 so a new workflow is fine... so far have just set for busses and associated tracks and it is helpful
was meh about the bluetubes prior, but have used them and some of them are decent, not sure whether its a big plus but were free.
 
still some minor errors in the midi take lanes.. a collapsed set of lanes will show muted clips, but its a big plus over x1 and x2
 
oh and welcome back!
 
 
 

As I stated about the colors it was my ignorance...I just found the "color bar" duh...ok...that's better...
But not very "intuitive" if you've never seen it before (I came in at X1...)

The Breverb issue only happens when Breverb is in the FX bin...not the Pro Channel...and only when the transport is moving and you're making 
adjustments...could be "system specific" ...don't really know...

All in all ...its been stable...just annoyances mostly...

Audio to MIDI, and FX Regions for VST 3's with ARA, and now that I get the "colors" thing...I'm 
liking more and more of what's going on here.

Thanx Mystic, it's good to be back...I  just needed a "break" so to speak...a self imposed "time out" if you will...LOL

jb101
I'm with you, cclarry.  The pros are definitely outweighing the cons with X3.
 
Workflow improvements and extra features are great. ARA integration is amazing..
 
Just one question, have you apologised to Andrew Rossa, yet?  re:
 

cclarry
 
@ Andrew Rossa (regarding Godparticle's thread being closed) -
"This statement says VOLUMES about the character of you
as a Cakewalk employee, and Cakewalk in general as a company..     ..because, based on this...I'm banning myself from the forum...
and from Cakewalk....you will greatly be missed.  I cannot, in
good conscience, continue to support a Company that behaves
like this, and it saddens me greatly"
 

 
 

I don't think I owe him an apology.  There was nothing misleading or "denegrating" about the thread which he deleted.
The OP posted a thread entitled "Bad Impressions of X3"  He then posted some specific things he had heard, and copied
and pasted some negative comments of others from "other" forums.  He then went on to express the fact that HE HIMSELF was
quite excited about X3 and wanted to know more about the merger with Cakewalk and Gibson.  There was NOTHING
misleading about that thread.  It was completely misread by the VAST MAJORITY who posted about it. To compound
the matter, not ONE person or Cakewalk EMPLOYEE attempted to answer the OP's ACTUAL question.  This shows
a great deal about the character of both the forum members here, and a Representative of Cakewalk, who has also
lashed out like a child in other forums as well ( I know...I was there).

I don't know who the poster was...all I know is the following:


We are supposed to be grown men, lets let others have an opinion, let them EXPRESS IT, and be polite about it, even when we disagree with them,
and dispense with the name calling, backbiting, and completely childish behavior that many here in this forum exhibit.

That's all I'm saying on this matter.

Now you Am bragging

Mesh

Bristol_JoneseyNow you Am bragging

Ya. Officer, the crime had occured the very moment the two culprits compared their relative sizes, and then the guilty party in question went back to the crime scene to do a re-count.

I think this is a case of plugin envy.

They do seem to be bakin' a lot these days (Jonbouy lurves that joke, giggles like a little girl he does).