Just curious...

I've read that some like to save projects for whatever reasons which I don't. Once I mix them down I'm done.
The way I see things is that if it was a good tune and I wanted to apply any improved skills I'd rather just re-record it and that got me thinking....
 
I know the very first tune I posted in the songs forum and it was a special tune to me. It was written about a @200 mile trip I took to private guitar lessons every other week. I would record the lessons and listen to them on the drive home and that particular lesson had something that sparked the idea for the tune. I wrote it and the band I was in at the time performed it. It contained a section for live performance that I didn't include in the one I recorded years later...I think it was '05 that I recorded and posted it. Really my first instrumental project with Sonar and I've had it posted at Mixposure since it was posted in the songs forum.
 
I've enjoyed presenting things that I thought would be fun for members here to do so;
 
Do you have a tune that is one of your first (so the original can be heard) and one that you would like to re-do?
It would inspire me to know there was a reason for the effort to re-do "Long Road Home" if there were others joining in so thought I'd mention what was bouncing around in me head.
( I also wouldn't be surprised if my original recording sounded better than what I could do now! lol)

I in no way think the remix/change is better. Just different.

Yeah...completely different than what I was suggesting.

Hi, Spacey. Hope you've been well.
 
Gonna blather about this (as usual) because my brain needs a five minute break from learning webdesign crud.
 
Anything I've been able to keep over the years I have. That includes stuff I did in Nuendo (way before I became a Sonarite) and I even have some tracks from sessions done in studio with my old band which I came across as a fluke (but unfortunately didn't get the tracks for the previous album I did with that guy which were deleted and the tape/HDD space reused... ugh... but that was released so whatevs).
 
The studio sessions I do have were actually pre-production for an album that has yet to be release almost a decade later due to member changes and lots of other stupidness and now the band isn't functioning anymore. We did attempt to redo it all with fresh beds with new members but after endless work (on my part) doing all the overdubs, mixing, etc the band decided it sucked because the beds were bad (too slow, no life, bad drum room, we were to old and jaded, etc). So now I'm looking at that first pre production session as a foundation for the album and man am I glad I have them otherwise those songs would be lost forever aside from some crappy live bootlegs. I've imported it all into Sonar and am going to tighten it all up so the timing is a little better, overdub a lot of stuff (but keep as much as I can of the original tracks) and basically turn it into a studio album ready for mastering/release.
 
As far as my Sonar efforts... yeah so far I've kept everything but I don't really have much. Basically three full original productions. They were just tester tracks to learn the program really and I've posted all of them on the songs forum but I think maybe they could be interesting releases if I redid or heavily reworked the originals. A lot of mistakes were made and frankly I find the content a little more boring than I'd like but with some work they're passable. People here seemed to like them and apparently they're being bootlegged/stolen on sketchy foreign music stealing sites (but those may just be internet scrubbers and no actual humans decided to steal them).
 
I don't particularly like having all that stuff eating up HDD space though so what I'll probably do is find some cloud storage solutions and/or just archive the files on DVDs locally. It's always fun looking back on stuff and you never know what will come in handy later on. There is one song in particular (my first real guitar song with Sonar) that I think is REALLY cool but it was actually a test of BFD Eco that evolved into a metal shredder. I had basically just gotten Sonar and BFD running and understood the basics but did not realize BFD Eco as standalone would not export as MIDI. Only a stereo audio file. I had just strung together a bunch of cool sounding pre-programmed content (beats, fills and whatnot) using BFDs timeline thinking I could get the MIDI file for it... which I couldn't. So I just dragged the resulting audio into Sonar and wrote a song around it. This severely limited my drum mixing/editing options. I'd like to try to recreate it (by hunting down the same loops I used), use some of the original guitar work with some overdubs, redo the bass and try to extend the whole song (which is under two minutes). Then obviously I'd like to mix it properly because back then I had absolutely no fracking clue what I was doing so the original is very dull sounding.
 
I may however just remix the current version and call it a day but I think it has a lot of possibilities both as a song and as a learning experience in fixing stupid stuff.
 
The other song that I've pushed way more on here (because I used more proper methods to track it) I find is actually a little lame musically but with some more interesting drum/bass parts and some fiddling with the composition it might work.
 
Anyway... I'm a lunatic who has all sorts of other weird ass plans for stuff like this that go beyond personal enjoyment or traditional releases so go with whatever wets your whistle, dude. Sounds like you want to take another crack at it so have at 'er even if it is just for the nostalgia... which is a great motivation IMO.
 
Cheers.

I thought there was a suggestion to post examples of stuff that we have saved and later enjoyed working on again.

Switching form PC to Mac and from Sonar to Logic meant starting afresh for the most part. Though I did re-record a bunch of projects.
 
Last time we went back to Canada, I retrieved an old HD full of Cakewalk projects and copied the content of the audio folder.  Once in a blue moon I pick up one of those and put it back together in Logic. It's an interesting process, if just for the fact that I can spot all the little mistakes and all the bad decisions I made in each mix.
 
It also allows me to answer certain questions, such has "what the heck was that sound, which synth was that?"
Good thing that Cakewalk implemented a better file naming scheme for Sonar than in the old Pro Audio days. A8rh2wo98fft.wav wouldn't really help. :P

Yes.  This old beast:  http://www.nwdreamer.com/download/Berry-Jam.mp3
 
I play everything, but had only been playing drums for two weeks (and only on a V-Drum set) - YOU'VE BEEN WARNED! .  
 
I had just bought a nice baritone guitar and had to try it out (hence the name of the song).  Unfortunately, I never got around to recording everything properly (and the baritone is long gone) so this is what I've got.  Someday I'll redo it using tons of better techniques that I've learned since (like how to mic the guitar speakers better, using a mic pre before sending it to be process, better drums, better bass, yeah...).
 
Oh well!

I can feel an OP deletion coming on...sorry we're so exasperating Michael. We can't help it.

No reason to apologize James. I'm not exasperated. Sometimes questions aren't as easy as they may seem I guess.
Of course the question(s) isn't hard when one knows the answer and either one does or doesn't.
 
Besides...it's something I can do and enjoy alone. Just thought it would be a fun group "thing"...I was apparently wrong.

spacey
No reason to apologize James. I'm not exasperated. Sometimes questions aren't as easy as they may seem I guess.
Of course the question(s) isn't hard when one knows the answer and either one does or doesn't.
 
Besides...it's something I can do and enjoy alone. Just thought it would be a fun group "thing"...I was apparently wrong.

I woudn't mind doing it, but it might take me a while. It's a good idea, don't give up on it 'cos no one bites after 4 hours.

Or are you asking if anyone has a song that they would like to do in the same fashion?
 

jamesg1213

spacey
No reason to apologize James. I'm not exasperated. Sometimes questions aren't as easy as they may seem I guess.
Of course the question(s) isn't hard when one knows the answer and either one does or doesn't.
 
Besides...it's something I can do and enjoy alone. Just thought it would be a fun group "thing"...I was apparently wrong.

I woudn't mind doing it, but it might take me a while. It's a good idea, don't give up on it 'cos no one bites after 4 hours.

I was giving up on me trying to explain the idea.
 
It would take me awhile to redo the only one that I would care to. I can sure relate to Beepster in that most of the tunes I don't care to redo...not burnt out though, just no interest and would rather write new.
 
It's really about hearing the difference between recordings over a period of time. Thought that was a cool idea because I realized today that I would enjoy doing that tune again and enjoy hearing the results whether good or bad.
 
So good!!
So far there are MAYBE two of us. 

Maybe I had to many questions asked in a to condensed manner...so;
 
1. Do you have a tune that you recorded (alone) and posted here in the songs forum years ago?
2. Is it a tune that you like enough to enjoy starting over from scratch?   
   ( a story behind the tune...interesting to me)
 
3. Is that something you would do and post both of them together for comparison listening?
   ( Things change with time. Not only recording abilities but playing/hearing/ideas so if it was a rock tune and you now hear it as a country tune or whatever...fine. Then and now.)
 
If so I think it would be cool if all the folks that did started a thread in the songs forum so all of them would be together for us to check out instead of a crazy number of different threads.
 
Naturally it would take different folk different times to complete the new take but if we had a reason we could get
started on doing them.
It would probably take me a month or two due to other obligations but IF it was to do with a group of friends I'd jump and make it a priority to complete.