Just gave myself a crash course in X3 comping. This is genius... seriously

chuckebaby
I have to say I feel the same, comping is really good in x3, it was my biggest issue in x2, I couldn't understand the theory behind the steps. it was a wee bit baffling to me.
but in x3 it just speaks volumes what the boys can do when they really want to floor a feature and get it right.
I love it, its been money for me.

Lynn
This is actually the type of comping power that I was waiting for.  I comped 4 lead vocal tracks in about 5 minutes, as opposed to the 30 minutes that I normally take for this.  One of Cake's all time best work flow enhancements.  No complaints here.

Keni
Hi Gang...

I know many of you will be surprised to hear this from me, but I hope you enjoy my attitude today...

I did a session last night which gave me a first chance to use comping for drum tracks and correction punches to any instrument such as the bass or guitar (it was a trio)...

The new comping tools have made many of the tasks far easier an faster for me... Learning curve? Yeah, I guess some of that... Also my power of observation sometimes in the way... ;-). I've found that I have often had difficulty while not realizing a new edit tool's pointer change and confusing which tool I grabbed... Realizing this was happening cleaned up many issues I was having...

I believe when I'm really comfortable with these types of issues, I will enjoy this even more. Learning curve... The moving and crowding of the various tools/pointers created quite a bit of my difficulties and the way these require some workflow adjustments really kept this as a problem... I have not fully explored the toolset, but it is getting easier and more understandable...

I look forward to enjoying them more as the earth spins... ;-)

BTW... I still have many issues about lanes/layers, but some of these new tools are making up for a lot of the things I still don't like about lanes... ;-)

So a lot of kudos and apologies to the Bakers as well as to the many other users who have tolerated me and endeavoured to help me get a grasp on this....

Thanks to all!

Keni

jbraner
I'm still low on the learning curve with take lanes - but can I just ask a question?

I use them for guitar solos - but these aren't really "takes" because each one is different. In other words, it's not like playing the same notes 4 times in a row and picking out the best - it's more like 4 very different lines, and you want to use parts of each. you might even want to use bar 1-4 from take 1 on bar 9-12.

As far as I can see, take lanes aren't really geared for working like this - are they? I find myself just pretty much copying parts of takes to a new track - and building the solo that way...

Am I missing something? Should I just take the time to learn take lanes better?

Beepster

Vab
I'm not sure if this is the same thing or different, but I gave up with trying take lanes and comping when I was having previous recordings being overwritten by new ones.

I don't think that's meant to happen, or if its related to comping, but it seemed like a significant big so I went back to doing multiple takes whilst a track is playing, then just copy pasting a correct take to wherever it was needed.

This sounds like you are using Overwrite mode instead of Comping or Sound On Sound modes. Overwrite is the only mode that will replace existing takes with the new recording.
 
Right click on the Record button in the Transport module and select either Comping or Sound On Sound and you previous takes will be retained.
 
Comping mode will mute the previous take(s) as you record new takes and Sound On Sound will leave the previous take(s) audible.
 
Overwrite will do as the name implies and overwrite any existing material.
 
These different modes will also affect editing behavior.
 
Hope that helps and if this is not the issue then my apologies. If you provide more detail then maybe we can find the problem. Cheers.

Sanderxpander
It's been a while since I used Logic 9's comping features (and I haven't used X at all), but does anyone know the differences between that and X3? When I got X3 and started comping I thought "huh, that's just like Logic".

neirbod
User impressions of take lanes seems largely based on how they use them. This point gets lost sometimes in discussions about takes/comping.

For comping, take lanes are great. Comping tools are quite intuitive (after a little learning curve) and provide an excellent workflow. Importantly, documentation, including the video someone linked to, is good. There are a few issues still, but overall users seems to find the workflow excellent.

For editing, especially multitrack, the opinion on take lanes is quite different. Many have struggled with this and have asked for layers (which were quite good for editing) to return. After struggling myself with this I have come around to finding a good workflow. I now believe that the #1 issue with editing using takes is lack of good documentation. The workflow is not very intuitive, and there are many pitfalls if you go astray. But with the right workflow they be very effective despite still having some quirks and bugs to work out.

The "using takes as layers" thread provides a lot of good info, and I know Craig plans to publish an article on this matter which should help. But a comprehensive video by CW on multi-track editing in take lanes would go a long way toward getting past this lanes vs layers discussion.