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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/06 21:31:50
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Ok, I almost forgot I had chicken soup on the stove simmering away. Quickly, I was reading interesting articles on SOS site 3 part + other articles. Anyway, the CPU hit on older processors can peak @ 50% for the Wavestation but on newer processors it shouldn't go any more than say 25%. Poly6 moreso. The MS20 has a CPU Loading Threshold that can be set. The M1 is good though with 8x multi and the IFX it will of course add some CPU overhead. *Phew* OK, this time I've got to go and have my desserts.
Edit: Just got back to add links -- these are 'old articles' but most of it still relevant:
Korg Legacy Collection Part 1 Part 2 Part 3
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M1 - Collections (Sounds) seems like they also included the kitchen sink.... 
So, newer systems should be adequate enough to run the MI, Poly6 and WaveStation simultaneously.
Both the M1 and WaveStation are 8x Multi-Part.
IIRC Korg hardware, the sounds are quite rich and useable. Though I mostly recall the M1 and Poly 6, but I do trust that Wavestation is also pretty darn good after listening to demos on YouTube.
It's also cool that Modulation and Arps can be sync'd to host and it's easy enough setting up CC.
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/07 06:24:45
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I've owned the Legacy Digital Collection since it first came out but stopped using it since I went all 64 bit.
Having now updated to the 64 bit versions I'm remembering how much I love the Wavestation.
Plus having recently bought a Kronos I've now got a real hardware joystick to use with WS!
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/09 23:02:08
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If you have the Wavestation, make sure you get the massive collection of 132 banks in post #3 over here: http://www.korgforums.com...3549557430e7da49357f22 A lot of them are very good & it'll take days just previewing them and creating banks of the best patches.
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/09 23:38:45
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I've been messing w/ Wavestation for a couple of hours, piling up tracks and instances and the CPU meter in Logic merely shows any sign of stress, on my "old" MacBook Pro (late 2010). The Korg stuff certainly falls into the very CPU efficient plugs category. And now that I have the Mono/Poly and WS, that MS-20 is really starting to look cool... :P
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/10 01:17:28
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Rain
I've been messing w/ Wavestation for a couple of hours, piling up tracks and instances and the CPU meter in Logic merely shows any sign of stress, on my "old" MacBook Pro (late 2010).
The Korg stuff certainly falls into the very CPU efficient plugs category.
And now that I have the Mono/Poly and WS, that MS-20 is really starting to look cool... :P
I didn't consider Korg Legacy earlier when I was shopping around for synths, I got a Synapse Dune instead which is also CPU friendly (can easily handle several instances) and I love the filters, they sound so silky smooth (particularly at the top-end). But I will definitely get the WS and other Korg Legacies soon. Have fun :-) .
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/10 07:00:04
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Thanks Jeff M for that. I downloaded those only to find I already had them but they were well hidden! So your post was like finding a hidden treasure. Yes there are some great patches amongst them for sure. I found another folder full of sysex files next to the above files and they seem to be for the Wavestation too. I could notget them to load in. I sorted that out. (read the Manual) Turns out I had a lot of sysex files but some of them were faulty and just did nothing when loaded in. ie no patches changed from previous bank. Most are fine and load in banks the same way as the other format files. (wsram)
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/10 12:01:43
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Yeah, I just got the WS yesterday and I'm really liking it.
Going through the patches & figuring out how the sounds are being built and getting ideas on what the thing can do.
The building blocks are there to come up with some interesting stuff, just have to dig in a little and suss it all out.
Easily worth the $50.
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/10 12:46:07
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Is this available for those who do not have the any of the colloection?
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/10 14:07:05
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The Wavestation demo might let you load in those wsrams, but I'm not sure if there are any other restrictions other than the 30 day access thing.
It might just let you play but not load/save.
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/10 14:13:11
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Mosvalve
Is this available for those who do not have the any of the colloection?
When these first came on the market, I recall that you could only buy bundles. Now I think you can get any individual synth for $49. Check the Korg site.
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/10 16:06:37
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Another synth that is really nice and if you like Wavestation you are going to like this. It is called Plex 2 by Wolfgang Palm. It is totally free. I am running the 32 bit version and it is perfect and stable. I believe the latest update includes 64 bit operation. It is very nice, comes with a lot of patches and is of a very similar vibe to Wavestation in terms of interesting textures, single shots and rhythmical things. It has an interesting interface that allows you endless variations on patches too. I believe it was something this guy started and in the end did not catch on in terms of a business product. Don't know why but it should have though. He is giving it away now which is very nice of him. http://plex.hermannseib.com/
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/10 16:20:17
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Plex was first released by Steinberg years ago. Here's an old review: http://www.soundonsound.c...cles/steinbergplex.asp Being a Steinberg plug-in, it was typically short-lived, but Palm re-released it on his own a few years ago. His last post on Facebook's page for Plex is dated November 2012, so I'm not sure if he has abandoned it or not. Too bad for me it's Windows only (though Logic's own Structure is a more than decent alternative).
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/10 16:35:10
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That Plex looks pretty cool - I'll have to check that one out.
Thanks for the link!
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/10 22:01:31
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I feel I must add - for anyone who may be a bit less educated about those Korg synths (like yours truly), Poly Six isn't just a stripped down version of Mono/Poly...
Which is what I sort of expected when I bought Mono/Poly, but after tweaking it for a bit trying to match a file that had been recorded w/ the Poly Six, though I could get in the ballpark, downloading the demo of Poly Six and giving it a shot I was settled in a matter of minutes.
They are different beasts. And now I need that one too. :s
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/11 10:38:57
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/11 12:49:39
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If you need a new controller or one that has more than 49 keys - and you do not or have not purchased any of the Korg legacy plugins then yes buying the Microkeys61 is the best deal around.
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/11 20:37:53
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I have been using the M1 and Wavestation since the old dongle days and I have upgraded them every time and upgrade was available. Unfortunately there are no stand alone versions in the 64 bit Win upgrade. I hope they come out with a stand alone patch soon.
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/11 21:51:17
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I just upgraded from M1 LE to the entire Legacy collection and just used M1 and Wavestation today in stand alone mode. Actually, by default, the install placed the icons for the all the modules on my desktop.
When you first open them you need to set the preferences to see your sound card and midi inputs and then your good to go.
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/11 22:04:09
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Rain
I feel I must add - for anyone who may be a bit less educated about those Korg synths (like yours truly), Poly Six isn't just a stripped down version of Mono/Poly...
Which is what I sort of expected when I bought Mono/Poly, but after tweaking it for a bit trying to match a file that had been recorded w/ the Poly Six, though I could get in the ballpark, downloading the demo of Poly Six and giving it a shot I was settled in a matter of minutes.
They are different beasts. And now I need that one too. :s
I use to own the hardware version way back in the early 1980's and love it. That is why I mentioned it (in your other thread). Also owned the MI, so IMO the PolySix, M1 and Wavstation are the three I would love to get.
The Poly 6 has good solid filters, it's very fat and grunty when you need it, can stack up to 16 voices along with detune and spread. No joking, this baby will cut through a dense mix of thumping bass and chainsawing lead guitars. I know because I have used the PolySix 'LIVE' many times in exactly that situation.
NOTE I posted several links to SOS because the info on their site is much more informative and such compared to Korg's site. If anyone wants to learn more?... then do yourselves a favour and check out those links.
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/11 22:15:36
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rtucker55
I just upgraded from M1 LE to the entire Legacy collection and just used M1 and Wavestation today in stand alone mode. Actually, by default, the install placed the icons for the all the modules on my desktop.
When you first open them you need to set the preferences to see your sound card and midi inputs and then your good to go.
Kind regards,
Rick
Thanx Rick for the heads up. I just thought it was a VSTi upgrade only.
Interesting that the install program did not install the stand alone programs or icons. I tried a reinstall and it let me repair the installation and then both the M1 and Wavestation icons appeared on my desktop.
Everything is fine now.
Thanks again.
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/11 22:33:25
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Hi MarioD,
Great to hear that you have it sorted! Enjoy!!!
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/11 22:44:53
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SongCraft
Rain
I feel I must add - for anyone who may be a bit less educated about those Korg synths (like yours truly), Poly Six isn't just a stripped down version of Mono/Poly...
Which is what I sort of expected when I bought Mono/Poly, but after tweaking it for a bit trying to match a file that had been recorded w/ the Poly Six, though I could get in the ballpark, downloading the demo of Poly Six and giving it a shot I was settled in a matter of minutes.
They are different beasts. And now I need that one too. :s
I use to own the hardware version way back in the early 1980's and love it. That is why I mentioned it (in your other thread). Also owned the MI, so IMO the PolySix, M1 and Wavstation are the three I would love to get.
The Poly 6 has good solid filters, it's very fat and grunty when you need it, can stack up to 16 voices along with detune and spread. No joking, this baby will cut through a dense mix of thumping bass and chainsawing lead guitars. I know because I have used the PolySix 'LIVE' many times in exactly that situation.
NOTE I posted several links to SOS because the info on their site is much more informative and such compared to Korg's site. If anyone wants to learn more?... then do yourselves a favour and check out those links.
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Man, it looks like they're reeling me in. I thought I only needed the Mono/Poly, then found myself drooling over and buying the Wavestation. Last night, the Polysix came to the rescue for that track I was working on. I was pretty sure I'd have no need for M-1, but I had installed the demo nonetheless. I shouldn't have played w/ that one... :s Goes on the wishlist. What sucks is that at this point, I'll have to buy them all individually, as there is no upgrade option. What sucks even more is that I may even buy that 61 keys controller after we're moved, meaning that, were I patient enough, I could have got all that stuff for free. :s Oh well, time to sell some stuff on KVR I guess...
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/12 01:13:48
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Rain
Man, it looks like they're reeling me in. I thought I only needed the Mono/Poly, then found myself drooling over and buying the Wavestation. Last night, the Polysix came to the rescue for that track I was working on.
I was pretty sure I'd have no need for M-1, but I had installed the demo nonetheless. I shouldn't have played w/ that one... :s Goes on the wishlist.
What sucks is that at this point, I'll have to buy them all individually, as there is no upgrade option.
What sucks even more is that I may even buy that 61 keys controller after we're moved, meaning that, were I patient enough, I could have got all that stuff for free. :s
Oh well, time to sell some stuff on KVR I guess...
It's tough, I only found out today that if you buy the Korg MicroKeys61 get the 'entire' Legacy Collection FREE and more all for just $179 (USD.) This is an awesome deal. I would get this for my niece (5 years old this year) already loves playing piano and shooting videos, has her own iPad too and is quite good at it all for her age. Yeah I have a talented musical family, all my nephews play instruments, their fathers are in a rock band, my father inlaw plays bass, my wife, mother inlaw and Grandma plays piano. The Snag For Me: My studio is kinda sorta tight on space because I've recently added a video/photography section and packed my keyboard stand away (due to limited space.) My main keyboard sits on my desk (DAW.) But that Microkeys61 looks pretty good, is 'ultra compact' and thereby ideal for my setup, but I don't have room for two keyboards. Sure I could move the 2nd keyboard + stand whenever I need to use the room for video/photography, but as it is already I have to move a freaking sofa, desk chair and a side table whenever I need to use the room for shooting videos and stills. It's crazy, but I need the space (16x12.ft room) the GreenScreen area itself takes up 9,ft wide x 7.ft Floor. I primarily want the PolySix, M1 and WS, and if it means losing out on that awesome deal (MicroKeys61 + entire Legacy Collection +) then oh well. But I am now considering the MicroKeys61 for my niece this year (August her birthday, or December 25th)! Ha' maybe she will let me borrow it but I doubt it.... she has a Barbie doll collection and still to this day won't let Ken (Barbie doll) drive the Barbie car LOL she is the leader and men better watch out!! Love my niece, she is so cute  -
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/12 07:42:18
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If you are in Europe Thomann had Microkeys61 for 166 Euros. In the UK DV247 has it for 139 pounds. In addition to the Legacy collection
Thomann also mentions Lounge Lizard Session and EZ Drummer lite are bundle, there is no mention of that in DV247's ad.
Its a good deal, BUT do not forget is not a full sized board. Its the Legacy collection that makes the deal.
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/13 21:26:10
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I thought I'd let you know how I got on. I ended up treating myself to it for my birthday (having a lot of c*** going on in life currently.. so thought , sod it) dv247 I ordered.. had a quick look elsewhere.. they had none in stock + were not the cheapest. so cancelled and hopefully I'll have the thing here by friday. Not saying where yet, but £15 cheaper.. it's a pity as my local DV shop wouldn't price match like the old days.. I much prefer giving the shop the business rather than their website.. but coz their sales folk have got their quota for march no doubt, they couldn't care (most schools etc.. will use up their budgets just before april to justify keeping em next year)
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/14 13:21:31
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For those interested in the Microkeys61, be aware that there is no sustain pedal input.
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2013/03/15 10:20:29
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Dammit!
I was deliberately staying out of this thread knowing that I would probably be tempted to purchase even more soft synths.
I was right... I've just bought the bundle...
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/15 16:15:43
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Hope you'll enjoy it.
I try to dedicate the budget to hardware and room treatment these days, but I've just sold my copy of Studio One, and that extra money can certainly be used to buy the rest of the Legacy collection...
M1, Polysix and MS-20, here I come... :)
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/15 16:40:18
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Hi Rain. I have had a real M1 for quite a while and I do like the sound of it for sure. The keyboard feels nice on an M1, I use it as one of my main controllers The plugin gets you all the RAM cards which is excellent. The thing to realise that a lot of that late 80's and 90's M1 sound is due to the amounts of chorus and reverb they programmed a lot onto the presets and I don't doubt they will all sound the same in the plug in version. I find by taking the chorus off and altering the wet/dry balance of the reverb and tighten up the room that machine can sound completely different. Especially when you add modern external effects to it as well. It is a wonderful workstation work horse and can do amazing amounts of good. It is well equipped with great bread and butter sounds. Not so cosmic as the Wavestation. Make sure you check out those free Wavestation patches too. Many of those are very good and well worth the effort in downloading and auditioning them. http://www.korgforums.com/support/wavestation/fr_ultimate_ws.zip If you like Wavestation you will love Plex as well and it is free. http://plex.hermannseib.com/
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Re:KORG Legacy Collection 64-bit Compatibility!
2013/03/15 17:11:33
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Thanks Jeff. I've just downloaded them and I'll definitely check them out asap.
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