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Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
Is there any reason to keep VST/VST2 plugins in Sonar Platinum if there is a VST3 version of the same?
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/24 05:24:38
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You will need them if they were used in any projects and the plug-in manufacturer does not support automatic VST2 to VST3 migration. Note: most manufacturers do not support it.
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/24 07:12:05
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Some softsynths with vst2 and vst3 versions have vst2 versions that respond to program changes whereas the vst3 versions do not. Meldaproduction's Mpowersynth is an example of such a synth.
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/24 07:49:55
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There are also times when VST 3 versions of certain plugins may have some quirky behavior or even crash, whereas their VST 2 versions do not. Arturia had some of that with some of their V Collection synths a while back.
Sonar will hide the VST 2 versions, by default, if there is a VST 3 version available. Also, these modules aren't terribly big, I have 1200+ plugins and they don't take up all that much hard drive space.
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/24 13:05:44
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Maybe I'm just contrarian by nature, but I don't even install VST3 versions whenever it's an option.
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/24 19:18:55
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Interesting, I don't install VST2 versions if there is a VST3 version.
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/24 20:48:11
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/24 22:40:19
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i install both, if there is a vst3 i use that every time
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/24 22:45:55
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Some plugins have VST3 versions that don't show the presets, if that matters to you.
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/24 22:46:17
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bitflipper
Why?
Why not is there really any difference ?
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/25 00:09:18
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Ok, so then why should I use VST3 versions?
And Sonar isn't hiding any plugins in my list. I get duplicates if there are multiple VST versions installed.
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/25 00:15:25
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/25 00:17:24
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☄ Helpfulby JohnEgan 2017/03/25 12:42:51
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/25 00:20:57
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lahatte
Ok, so then why should I use VST3 versions?
And Sonar isn't hiding any plugins in my list. I get duplicates if there are multiple VST versions installed.
There is an option in SONAR's preferences to hide duplicates.
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/25 01:57:45
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VST2 tend to be more stable.
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/25 02:10:40
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lahatte
Ok, so then why should I use VST3 versions?
And Sonar isn't hiding any plugins in my list. I get duplicates if there are multiple VST versions installed.
There is an option in SONAR's preferences to hide duplicates.
They are not "duplicates" if the plug-in manufacturer fails to add the VST2 to VST3 migration data to their plug-ins. If you care to read the details see http://blog.cakewalk.com/...r-x3-vst-enhancements/. The article also discusses some of the advantages of VST3 plug-ins.
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/25 11:49:37
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All VST3 versions of plugins of Plugin Alliance which I tested or own have bug which prevent to using presets in Sonar Plat. I reported this bug to them they answering they were going to work on it but quite a long no progress....
Especially considering it is probably easy to fix - it is just about displaying lists of presets in menu :-/
So if you have PA plugins I would recommend you using VST2 versions which are showing presets sometimes in strange form but they are there...
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/25 12:44:43
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/25 19:42:01
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Quote from VST2 vs VST3 discussion:
"VST2 sounds warmer ..."
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/25 19:49:41
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Afrodrum
Quote from VST2 vs VST3 discussion:
"VST2 sounds warmer ..."
My personal favorite was my own comment "Vst 3 is better than VST 2 because it's one number higher". that's got to mean something 
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/25 20:22:47
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Interesting stuff...
Thanks!
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/26 00:45:27
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I generally use VST3, if available. Some programs have had issues with it, I think IK did for awhile, but in general when companies do VST3 that is what the focus on. Also it does offer some features that VST2 doesn't. Not all plugins make use of it, but there you go.
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/26 01:05:13
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u-he synths have had a known bug with VST3, unless it's been fixed already, that prevents the VST3 plugin from recalling the saved preset with a project. The result with the VST3 version is that the plugin opens up with the default preset, even if you have saved the project with something else.
Their recommendation has been to stick with their VST2 versions until they resolve the compatibility issues with VST3. They stated that there is no other functional difference in their plugins using VST2 or VST3, so no compelling reason to migrate to the new version.
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/26 15:08:52
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I'm still using vst2 for TH3 full version because vst3 doesn't respond to program changes from my midi footswitch. As far as I know that's still the case although I haven't tested recent versions. From a previous post, this is what Overloud said about it around June 2016:
Yes, this is an issue with the VST3 format and we are currently working on it.
If you wish to use the latest version of the plug-in and correctly receive Program Changes, you should use the VST2 format.
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Re: Keep VST Plugins if VST3?
2017/03/26 20:39:54
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