bapu
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Ken Scott says......
"I don't believe a record is ever sold or not sold because a hi-hat was slightly harsher or because it was 2db higher or lower." Ken Scott, Mix Magazine Interview, July 2012
Then again, he can afford to say that, right?
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daryl1968
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/11 16:51:09
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 Good marketing Bapu
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ohgrant
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/11 16:51:50
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Hmm, did someone call your high-hats harsh? That's just wrong 
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/11 17:43:48
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I don't recall hearing a hihat on a recording that actually sounds like what one really sounds like. Just saying.
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/11 18:30:32
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To be fair, they may often sound a lot like what they actually sound like at the place where the microphones are, it's just most folks never hear them from there. And also they may sound like they sound when heard from multiple such places at once, which we never actually do either. In such cases that doesn't mean it's not a real representation of the sound, just a real representation that we can't normally experience.
Though obviously drums are often fairly to very significantly EQ'd because they are such massive frequency suckers. I imagine it's more likely today that they would be heavily EQ'd (meaning not a special effect in this case) than would have been in Ken's prime.
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/11 18:53:36
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/11 19:02:17
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Hi Hats sounding harsh? mmmm...mebee he needs to hear someone banging away on a sheet metal door with a ball peen hammer then... 
The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate. Bushpianos
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/11 20:21:48
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At the risk of being the oddball, I MAY have bought the Crazy Eyes album by Poco years ago because of the hi hat sound. I can say I would be more likely to by a CD these days for the kick drum sound though.
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/11 21:07:40
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jimmyrage
At the risk of being the oddball, I MAY have bought the Crazy Eyes album by Poco years ago because of the hi hat sound. I can say I would be more likely to by a CD these days for the kick drum sound though.
The oddball in this thread.....not a chance too much competition
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bapu
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/11 21:08:29
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ohgrant
jimmyrage
At the risk of being the oddball, I MAY have bought the Crazy Eyes album by Poco years ago because of the hi hat sound. I can say I would be more likely to by a CD these days for the kick drum sound though.
The oddball in this thread.....not a chance too much OP
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/11 21:15:55
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 ...Bless your heart
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/11 22:09:29
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I MAY have bought the Crazy Eyes album by Poco years ago because of the hi hat sound. I remember that particular hi hat sound lust also. Still looking.
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/11 22:51:26
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Hi hats, Pftt. Cowbells, now that's a reason to buy a song.
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bapu
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/11 22:52:24
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Middleman
Hi hats, Pftt. Cowbells, now that's a reason to buy a song.
2db louder. Minimum.
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/11 22:59:20
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Mississippi Queen, now that's a song.
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bapu
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/12 02:36:49
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Middleman
Mississippi Queen, now that's a song.
I could put that, Time Has Come Today and My Old School on loop and be in cowbell heaven.
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Re:Ken Scott says......
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/12 09:16:25
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The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate. Bushpianos
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/12 10:17:49
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trimph1
Les Derrieres!!!!
+1
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/12 10:23:58
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Did someone menshun cowbells?
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/12 10:48:34
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Karyn
Did someone menshun cowbells?
Repeatedly. And more too.
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/12 11:21:45
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☄ Helpful
but what does Bon Scott say? hmmm?
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Re:Ken Scott says......
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/12 12:23:25
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u Beagle
but what does Bon Scott say? hmmm?
Not much, lately.
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/12 12:43:50
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For want of a nail the shoe was lost
For want of a shoe the horse was lost
For want of a horse the rider was lost
- Ben Franklin
Details matter. Try to imagine the Theme from Shaft with the hats buried in the mix.
Anyhow, I'm waiting to hear what Alan Parsons has to say on the subject.
 All else is in doubt, so this is the truth I cling to. My Stuff
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/12 12:47:32
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bitflipper
For want of a nail the shoe was lost
For want of a shoe the horse was lost
For want of a horse the rider was lost
- Ben Franklin
Details matter. Try to imagine the Theme from Shaft with the hats buried in the mix.
Anyhow, I'm waiting to hear what Alan Parsons has to say on the subject.
pfft. he's just gonna say it needs more RAM.
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/12 12:48:43
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Mod Bod
u
Beagle
but what does Bon Scott say? hmmm?
Not much, lately.
you need one of those yeller helpful banner thingys.
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bapu
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/12 13:30:30
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bitflipper
Anyhow, I'm waiting to hear what Alan Parsons has to say on the subject.
"You can RAM hi-hats up AP arse, it's everything." ~Daryl1968
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/12 13:31:09
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bapu
"I don't believe a record is ever sold or not sold because a hi-hat was slightly harsher or because it was 2db higher or lower." Ken Scott, Mix Magazine Interview, July 2012
Then again, he can afford to say that, right?
I think in context it isn't about the hi-hats at all particularly it's about the pre-occupation of needlessly skinning farts, and I agree with him if that is the point he's actually making. I have a few vocal tracks culled from hit records and I'd say the major part of any commercial appeal is alredy right there in those performances.
post edited by Jonbouy - 2012/07/12 13:32:35
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bapu
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Re:Ken Scott says......
2012/07/12 13:32:57
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Jonbouy
I think in context it isn't about the hi-hats at all particularly it's about the pre-occupation of needlessly skinning farts as is done in the songs forum.
Caked=Baked.
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