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Re: 2014 Kirk Hunter Group Buy Update - Now at 30% Off --- PLUS -- All List Prices Reduced
2014/02/28 08:20:02
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edrummist @lawajava I just touched base with Kirk and learned that (1) while he's adding violins, violas and cellos recordings to Spotlight Strings with different mics and recording techniques at no cost for existing Spotlight Strings customers (allow at least a month before these are ready) and (2) there are no plans to create a version of Easy String Arranger for Spotlight Strings. Kirk mentioned that adapting ESA for Spotlight Strings would require a great deal of code that would near Kontakt's script line limit.
When you say "adding", are the new samples in addition to the existing ones or is he replacing? So far in my short time with Spotlight Strings, I really like how they blend with EWQLSO. Much better that the Garritan samples I have (that I hardly used). Regards, Dan
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Re: 2014 Kirk Hunter Group Buy Update - Now at 30% Off --- PLUS -- All List Prices Reduced
2014/02/28 13:20:55
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☄ Helpfulby dcumpian 2014/02/28 16:25:06
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edrummist @lawajava I just touched base with Kirk and learned that (1) while he's adding violins, violas and cellos recordings to Spotlight Strings with different mics and recording techniques at no cost for existing Spotlight Strings customers (allow at least a month before these are ready) and (2) there are no plans to create a version of Easy String Arranger for Spotlight Strings. Kirk mentioned that adapting ESA for Spotlight Strings would require a great deal of code that would near Kontakt's script line limit.
When you say "adding", are the new samples in addition to the existing ones or is he replacing? So far in my short time with Spotlight Strings, I really like how they blend with EWQLSO. Much better that the Garritan samples I have (that I hardly used). Regards, Dan
Hi Dan, I'm right with you on this. Kirk told me that he is adding the new sampled instruments to the existing ones, so you'll be able to keep the instruments you already like and get new ones that provide you with new options. I would call it the best of both worlds and the way I was hoping Kirk would handle things. And I'd urge everyone who hasn't already weighed in on their preferences for the new Spotlight Strings recordings/samples Kirk has shared to do so ASAP, as Kirk is still looking for input (ideally, post over at the KVR thread, as Kirk isn't a Sonar user; I make him aware of what's going on here, but he spends his time and posts at KVR; and Kirk isn't huge into online posting; he's kind of the antithesis of the salesy devs or their social media salesforce, hence why I roll up my sleeves and work with him on posting for Group Buys; honestly, it's a lot like getting together with a good friend and helping him Spackle and his house or move furniture; there's work to be done, but you have fun during the process) and he will soon be wrapping things up. I wish more sample libraries would be developed with that kind of level of customer input and I want to see people get involved. - Peter
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Re: 2014 Kirk Hunter Group Buy Update - Now at 30% Off --- PLUS -- All List Prices Reduced
2014/02/28 20:44:50
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Thanks for all the updates on this Peter. Kirk has friends over here whether he knows it or not.
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Re: 2014 Kirk Hunter Group Buy Update - Now at 30% Off --- PLUS -- All List Prices Reduced
2014/02/28 21:18:38
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I wish you guys would let this thread die already, I've already bought 3 libraries from Kirk because of this thread... C'mon midnight (PST)!
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Re: 2014 Kirk Hunter Group Buy Update - Now at 30% Off --- PLUS -- All List Prices Reduced
2014/02/28 21:36:43
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lawajava Thanks for all the updates on this Peter. Kirk has friends over here whether he knows it or not.
I've told Kirk to visit this forum if he's ever bummed out and he'll feel the love! Okay, this has absolutely nothing to do with anything, I just found this music video today and my young kids (5 and 9) think the music and video are possible the most horrible, yet amusing, thing they've ever seen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxrwSmjtglc
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Re: 2014 Kirk Hunter Group Buy Update - Now at 30% Off --- PLUS -- All List Prices Reduced
2014/02/28 22:18:55
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I wish had the cash for Spotlight Strings, but alas, I do not. So I picked up Solo Strings 1 instead! This is my first KH library and so far I'm very pleased with it. For $40 it's really good. And TVEC3 makes it very easy to move between articulations and sample variations. Very cool. The only other orchestral samples I have are GPO and Miroslav CE, and as solo (or "spotlight") strings these are just so much... better. I look forward to using them.
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Re: 2014 Kirk Hunter Group Buy Update - Now at 30% Off --- PLUS -- All List Prices Reduced
2014/03/01 01:21:32
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stevec I wish had the cash for Spotlight Strings, but alas, I do not. So I picked up Solo Strings 1 instead! This is my first KH library and so far I'm very pleased with it. For $40 it's really good. And TVEC3 makes it very easy to move between articulations and sample variations. Very cool. The only other orchestral samples I have are GPO and Miroslav CE, and as solo (or "spotlight") strings these are just so much... better. I look forward to using them.
Great to hear that your enjoying Solo Strings 1, Steve! I took a similar journey to yours, starting with GPO then Miroslav Philharmonik, xSample and some other string libraries here and there before moving up to Kirk's libraries and working with him. It's also amazing the difference the scripting makes (e.g., TVEC, etc.) with string libraries (as well as many other types of libraries too). - Peter
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Re: 2014 Kirk Hunter Group Buy Update - Now at 30% Off --- PLUS -- All List Prices Reduced
2014/03/01 10:36:22
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Thanks, Peter. I had a different impression right off the bat with how these strings react, which I like. Being my first Kontakt library, perhaps it is the scripting as you've mentioned. But in the end it really it doesn't matter as long they suit their purpose well... and they so far they absolutely do!
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Re: 2014 Kirk Hunter Group Buy Update - Now at 30% Off --- PLUS -- All List Prices Reduced
2014/03/01 23:20:55
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Having bought Spotlight Strings in this sale, would it be redundant to buy the Solo Strings I or II as well? Or are there enough differences among them? I do have GPO 4 already.
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Re: 2014 Kirk Hunter Group Buy Update - Now at 30% Off --- PLUS -- All List Prices Reduced
2014/03/02 02:50:42
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jimusic Having bought Spotlight Strings in this sale, would it be redundant to buy the Solo Strings I or II as well? Or are there enough differences among them? I do have GPO 4 already.
No, it's not redundant at all. They're actually different physical instruments that were sampled and different sessions, plus the vibrato and controls are on Spotlight Strings are very different from SS1 and SS2. If I bought Spotlight Strings and could only afford one additional solo string library, I would choose SS2 because of the greater detail over SS1. Of course, if you picked up Concert Strings 2, it includes Solo Strings 2 plus string sections.
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Re: 2014 Kirk Hunter Group Buy Update - Now at 30% Off --- PLUS -- All List Prices Reduced
2014/03/02 14:32:48
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The strings in the various KH libraries all seem to be different - probably different instruments and players, definitely different recordings. I know that the Spotlight Strings library uses newly recorded samples, but to my ears the strings in Diamond and Concert Strings 2 are also different. The one possible exception to this rule is Pop/Rock strings, which sounds an awful lot like Concert Strings 2, but the controls and articulations are different. I find that various string "instruments" from the different libraries play well together, providing me with even more possibilities - maybe too many?? I have not tried SS1, but I do have Diamond, Pop/Rock Strings, Concert Strings 2, Concert Brass 2, and now Spotlight Strings. I really like all the libraries, and they make up the backbone of my orchestral templates. I supplement them with the included content in Kontakt 5, and a couple of older (read GS era) libraries, such as the Presonus Orchestra, SampleTekk Big Orchestral Brass, and Quantum Leap Brass. I am also evaluating (again) G-Player, with the hopes that it will handle Garritan Orchestral Strings, another GS library, and one that will not import properly into Kontakt. For a brief time - before my dedicated GS computer gave up the ghost - I was layering CS2 and GOS and the result was glorious!
That's part of the beauty of all the KH libraries... they work well with other libraries. It is exactly their close, dry nature that makes this work. It's also the thing that lets you craft a variety of sounds.
This can be a double edged sword - I find that I have had to work harder to tweak the sound of the libraries to what I would like, but the flexibility is part of the charm!!
If you still have a chance, and some cash, I think you'll be quite pleased with any of the other KH libraries.
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Re: 2014 Kirk Hunter Group Buy Update - Now at 30% Off --- PLUS -- All List Prices Reduced
2014/03/02 14:33:53
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real quick tip of the hat to Peter... you are doing a great job fielding questions! Thanks...
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Re: 2014 Kirk Hunter Group Buy Update - Now at 30% Off --- PLUS -- All List Prices Reduced
2014/03/02 17:00:23
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wst3 The strings in the various KH libraries all seem to be different - probably different instruments and players, definitely different recordings. I know that the Spotlight Strings library uses newly recorded samples, but to my ears the strings in Diamond and Concert Strings 2 are also different. The one possible exception to this rule is Pop/Rock strings, which sounds an awful lot like Concert Strings 2, but the controls and articulations are different. I find that various string "instruments" from the different libraries play well together, providing me with even more possibilities - maybe too many?? I have not tried SS1, but I do have Diamond, Pop/Rock Strings, Concert Strings 2, Concert Brass 2, and now Spotlight Strings. I really like all the libraries, and they make up the backbone of my orchestral templates. I supplement them with the included content in Kontakt 5, and a couple of older (read GS era) libraries, such as the Presonus Orchestra, SampleTekk Big Orchestral Brass, and Quantum Leap Brass. I am also evaluating (again) G-Player, with the hopes that it will handle Garritan Orchestral Strings, another GS library, and one that will not import properly into Kontakt. For a brief time - before my dedicated GS computer gave up the ghost - I was layering CS2 and GOS and the result was glorious!
That's part of the beauty of all the KH libraries... they work well with other libraries. It is exactly their close, dry nature that makes this work. It's also the thing that lets you craft a variety of sounds.
This can be a double edged sword - I find that I have had to work harder to tweak the sound of the libraries to what I would like, but the flexibility is part of the charm!!
If you still have a chance, and some cash, I think you'll be quite pleased with any of the other KH libraries. ...real quick tip of the hat to Peter... you are doing a great job fielding questions! Thanks...
First, thanks for the kind words, Bill. As far as the reason Pop/Rock Strings sounds so much like Concert Strings 2, it's because PRS is made up of some of the samples from CS2. Basically, you could consider Pop/Rock Strings is Concert Strings 2 Lite. The product came about when I told Kirk that I thought Concert Strings 2 sounds really good for pop/rock singer/songwriter productions because the samples are dry and not the bombastic, cinematic type like many other string libraries on the market, so I suggested that he should create a more economically priced version (at that time, Concert Strings 2 was $799 USD) that targeted people like me who do pop and rock productions. PRS has less articulations than CS2 and uses less samples per octave than CS2. And, if you own Diamond, you already do have Solo Strings 1; those are the solo strings in Diamond.
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Re: 2014 Kirk Hunter Group Buy Update - Now at 30% Off --- PLUS -- All List Prices Reduced
2014/03/02 19:19:57
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Ok, thanks Buds. ... 'good for pop/rock singer/songwriter productions'... This is mostly what I do. Late Edit: Ok, I decided to go for the gusto. I went for the Concert Strings II while it was still on for $200.00. There's a boat load of options combined in there.
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Re: 2014 Kirk Hunter Group Buy Update - Now at 30% Off --- PLUS -- All List Prices Reduced
2014/03/03 23:17:33
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I just touched base with Kirk to ask about the Group Buy page still being up/working and he told me that he still has everything operational in order to give some people who signed up for the Group Buy but have yet to complete their purchases some extra time. Consequently, for however long it is he keeps things up, the Group Buy 50% is still active. So, if you signed up but haven't completed your purchase, want to pick up an additional library or held off on the Group Buy and are now interested, there's still time, but the window is closing. http://www.kirkhunterstud...potlight_group_buy.php
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Re: 2014 Kirk Hunter Group Buy Update - Now at 30% Off --- PLUS -- All List Prices Reduced
2014/03/08 14:17:58
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Thanks for posting this. I stumbled upon the KH sale just by visiting the site, and decided to go ahead and get the Diamond Orchestra. At $149, it is quite a bargain. I have Miroslav and from what I've seen so far, this blows it away by far (it's still downloading but I keep unzipping instruments to try them out as others are downloading). Really impressed so far. The Concert Strings Combinations sound very good. It's going to take a while to download the whole 65GB enchilada.
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Re: 2014 Kirk Hunter Group Buy Update - Now at 30% Off --- PLUS -- All List Prices Reduced
2014/03/08 16:58:03
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I'll definitely be looking out for future KH sales. I purchased the cheapest library, SS1, and already used it in a remix. I can image what the other libraries are like!
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Re: 2014 Kirk Hunter Group Buy Update - Now at 30% Off --- PLUS -- All List Prices Reduced
2014/03/08 22:54:54
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stevec I'll definitely be looking out for future KH sales. I purchased the cheapest library, SS1, and already used it in a remix. I can image what the other libraries are like!
FYI, prices are still showing as the group buy sale prices on the site, if you can do a last chance grab. It'd be a shame to have to wait months & months if you already know you're gonna go for & use them.
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Re: 2014 Kirk Hunter Group Buy Update - Now at 30% Off --- PLUS -- All List Prices Reduced
2014/03/09 00:29:23
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I know... but so little $$, so many good sales right now.
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Re: 2014 Kirk Hunter Group Buy Update - Now at 30% Off --- PLUS -- All List Prices Reduced
2014/03/09 00:32:36
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stevec I know... but so little $$, so many good sales right now.
Yeah - I hear ya'
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