Klanghelm SDRR

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2014/08/15 02:27:34 (permalink)

Klanghelm SDRR

Hi guys!
 
I just had to share my two cents on a plugin I got yesterday. The Klanghelm SDRR. It's a saturation plugin. But what a beast of a saturation plugin and it only costs 22EUR! You guys really need to check this one out.
I found out via an article where they listed the 13 best plugs under 30 bucks (http://m.musicradar.com/news/tech/13-of-the-best-vst-au-plugin-effects-under-30-605327/2#next). And they really werent kidding. This is a plug I will use a TON. And no crappy licensing, dongle or whatever, seems to be able to install on any of your machines. The sound it makes is awesome!
 
I also got this one while I was at it:
http://www.klanghelm.com/VUMT.php
 
That one was great as well. Highly recommended.
 
Will probably get their compressor as well since it has gotten tons of raving reviews. Just felt wrong to spend more money on plugs this month.. Hehe...
 
You guys probably knew about these, but if theres anyone who didnt, do yourself a favor and check them out.
 
/M
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    cclarry
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    Re: Klanghelm SDRR 2014/08/15 06:43:03 (permalink)
    Thanx Metz!


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    ShellstaX
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    Re: Klanghelm SDRR 2014/08/15 08:01:22 (permalink)
    Thanks Metz, I'll take a look.
     
    I just jumped on to buy the Klanghelm VU Meters (8 euro) and swung past the forum :).
     
    I'm also gonna grab the HoRNet VU Meter - 40% off for another day and cheap as chips (2.39 euro). The HoRNet sale seems to happen every month  - I picked up Deelay (4.79 euro) and Autogain Pro (13.20 euro) last month. The VU Meter also appears to include an autogain feature. Whilst I'm yet to figure it all out the concept makes sense to me and further ratified by this post.
     
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    Re: Klanghelm SDRR 2014/08/15 09:37:35 (permalink)
    I love SDRR!!! I use it quite frequently. Tony Frenzel's plugs are great. The DC8C compressor is also a go-to for me and the VU meters are always on my master bus.

    We'll not risk another frontal assault-that rabbit's dynamite!!!

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    Re: Klanghelm SDRR 2014/08/15 11:01:14 (permalink)
    I'm with Shellstax: grab the VU meters too.  They're very good, not expensive, and will do your gainstaging/mixing a world of good!!
     
    Best of luck with you music.
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    Re: Klanghelm SDRR 2014/08/15 11:02:31 (permalink)
    Oooops!!  Just read your post all the way through, and you did get the VU meters.  Good decision!!
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    metz
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    Re: Klanghelm SDRR 2014/08/16 04:54:01 (permalink)
    I emailed Klanghelm support btw. Not that theres a problem with their products that I have encountered but I wanted to know if it was possible to get the needle to be even more responsive in the VU meter. He replied instantly letting me know he was on vacation in Denmark but will look into it as soon as he is back.
    Now thats good support!
     
    /M
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    Re: Klanghelm SDRR 2014/08/16 07:29:36 (permalink)
    metz
    ... but I wanted to know if it was possible to get the needle to be even more responsive in the VU meter ...

     
    Have you played with the Settings (SET button - top right)?
     
    [UPDATE]:
    I also found the Digital Display output (current/peak) by clicking on the clip LED.
    So I thought I had better find some instructions ... http://www.klanghelm.com/docs/VUMT_manual.pdf :).
    Turns out you can click anywhere (horizontally) at the bottom of the VU Display to bring up the Digital Display output.
     
    Other tidbits too like:
    - Changing the the VU/PPM scale with click-drag on the value.
    - Click the VU Display Border to get an orange needle Peak Level ghost.
     
     
     
    post edited by ShellstaX - 2014/08/16 08:12:18
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    Re: Klanghelm SDRR 2014/08/16 08:35:20 (permalink)
    It's a great VU meter for sure!

    We'll not risk another frontal assault-that rabbit's dynamite!!!

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    Re: Klanghelm SDRR 2014/08/16 13:50:32 (permalink)
    Yeah Ive played with the settings. It just felt like the "framerate" of the needle or whatever you'd call it isnt as high as I would like it to be. But it could totally be an issue with my graphicscard as well since Ive had some other issues. Stuff like Waves plugins not being very smooth as well.
     
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    Re: Klanghelm SDRR 2014/08/16 15:48:09 (permalink)
    I've got all of Klanghelm's plugins. I use all 3 on every project. I also highly recommend Hornet's plugins.

    Cakewalk, Harrison Mixbus 4, Waveform 9, ADK intel i7 2600 3.40 ghz, 8gb Ram, Win 7, Presonus Audiobox 44VSL. 
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    Re: Klanghelm SDRR 2014/08/16 16:55:28 (permalink)
    I have real VU meters as well as VST versions. The real VU's are hard to beat and are the best. I have however devised some tests to test the ballistics of VST meters in comparison to the real ones. The Klanghelm meters are the closest for me. BTW many others are not in the ball park so be careful. They will all read 0 dB VU with a sinewave tone but that is not the issue. It is how they move that is way more important. Many DO NOT move the way a real VU does.
     
    I have not had issues with the Klanghelm meters either in terms of graphics so that must be something that is an issue with your system.
     
    Be careful altering the settings for the rise time and fall time. You can make the meter overshoot if you are not careful which in turn will make you alter the gain accordingly. eg If a meter overshoots you will be inclined to lower the gain. If the meter is too slow in responding it will not reach 0 dB VU like it should so you can end up pushing the gain instead. (reducing your headroom)
     
    Where many fall down is when the signal drops to zero and the meter needle goes back to -20. The real VU's have this lovely tiny bounce, most of the VST's dont do that. Seems like that might be hard to emulate, because the bounce sort of adds to the ballisitics of the meter obviously.
     
    But don't worry, in terms of music they are very good. I find I have to tweak the rise time on the Klanghelm meters to be around 200 mS or even 150 mS to get the rise time to match the real ones. I know this is not in line with the 300 mS standard but with music that is the only way I can get the VST's to be very close to the real deal.
     
    Fall times can be 300mS or under even 250 ms or 200 mS. For some reason the real VU's fall quite fast and will usually beat a VST to the -20 position on the meter.  Speeding up the fall time improves this but it is still not perfect though. On music (as opposed to the pulsed test tones I created) they are very close and certainly are reading right in the ball park.
     
    I have got the overshoot control set to 1 or 2. Dont turn this up because that really screws up the meter operation.

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    Re: Klanghelm SDRR 2014/08/16 17:50:25 (permalink)
    Jeff Evans
    ... BTW many others are not in the ball park so be careful ...

     
    FWIW ... in my tinkering, HoRNet, although bar vs needle, shows the same readings as Klanghelm.
     
    @Metz - re framerate ... mine's fine ... a bit of an unlikely but possible thought(?) ... is your monitor(physical) / display(virtual) all synced at 60Hz? (or the same).
    post edited by ShellstaX - 2014/08/16 17:54:04
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    metz
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    Re: Klanghelm SDRR 2014/08/17 05:21:09 (permalink)
     
    @Metz - re framerate ... mine's fine ... a bit of an unlikely but possible thought(?) ... is your monitor(physical) / display(virtual) all synced at 60Hz? (or the same).



    Monitor settings are fine and set to 60hz. But the problem could definitively be on my end anyway. My Melda plugs have a very good update speed but they use the GPU for the grapichs so they work differently I guess.
     
    I have to add here that its not really a problem, the meters are still the best VST meters Ive used.
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