Beagle
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Kontakt 4 importing Gigastudio help
I just got Kontakt and want to import my Gigastudio 3 sounds. I have been successful with most of it that I've checked. but the most important import for me is the Gigapiano II. When I import Gigapiano II it does not import anything except pedal sounds. everything else in the library seems to be working correctly (those that I've checked), but the Gigapiano is not working.
all I'm doing is selecting Gigapiano II from the list and then clicking on the IMPORT bar, choosing the destination for the instrument and samples and then it works at it, I can see files being converted, but when I load the instrument it only has pedal sounds!
does anyone have any suggestions for me on what I might be doing wrong?
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Re:Kontakt 4 importing Gigastudio help
2010/06/30 19:09:43
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can't you just point it to the existing gigapiano library location.....? Assuming it is samples that Kontakt can recognize..... I did something similar with Jamstix.... loading up some battery kits.... once I went there, JS saved the kits and now they are in the JS directory of available kits..... maybe that's not the same thing.
post edited by Guitarhacker - 2010/06/30 19:12:05
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Re:Kontakt 4 importing Gigastudio help
2010/06/30 19:42:36
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No, it has to import them from the gigastudio format. I think JS uses wave files, so that would work with JS, but GS has a proprietary file type which has to be converted.
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Re:Kontakt 4 importing Gigastudio help
2010/06/30 21:53:42
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sounds like something right up your alley 
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Re:Kontakt 4 importing Gigastudio help
2010/07/01 13:51:59
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Short answer... importing or translating GS into Kontakt is an imperfect process whether you Kontakt, Translator (Garth wrote the code for Kontakt), or one of the other third party tools.
GigaPiano II is one I was never able to import. I was told, at the time, that it had something to do with a CP or compression scheme that Tascam was monkeying around with. I don't know if that's the case or not, I gave up on that.
What I've found thus far:
1) Every single free GS2 instrument translated without an audible fault
2) Many/most of my commercial GS2 libraries translated as well, with the following notable exceptions: Garritan Orchestral Strings, Larry Seyer Bass, Scarbee Fingered and Slapped basses. These three, even though they were developed for GS2, apparently push the envelope a bit too far for Translator or Kontakt.
3) Some of my GS3 libraries have also imported nicely, some have not. I think not has a slight majority.
4) Libraries that I imported into GS2 from Ensoniq and Akai libraries seem to work better than the direct imports... but I haven't tried that many as I grew frustrated!
You will have some serious frustration ahead of you I'm afraid, but it's probably still worth it!
Keep us informed please...
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Re:Kontakt 4 importing Gigastudio help
2010/07/01 20:00:28
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ugh. gigapiano is the main one I use!
I'll keep working on it.
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Re:Kontakt 4 importing Gigastudio help
2010/07/01 20:42:06
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GPII uses GigaPulse and maybe some iMIDI rules for resonance and pedal behavior? So even if you can get the samples mapped, you're not going to have the integrated resonance via convolution. Complexity really ramped up with GS3 compared to GS2, so I'm not suprised if translation suffers with GS3 specific libraries. For something like piano, if you can get the raw samples out of the GIG file, you might be better off just remapping everything yourself... especially for piano where you basically have a giant grid of key/velocity zones... Then on top of that you'd have to either go without the resonance or grab one of the 3rd party resonance scripts (I'm aware of two) and adapt that to the GP samples... so, yeah, alot of work...  BTW, if you like GPII, which is a Kawai, you should check out AcouticsampleS KAWAI-EX Pro, which is optimized for K4... http://www.acousticsamples.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=21 No import required! Plus they have a lite version as well for like $75.
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Re:Kontakt 4 importing Gigastudio help
2010/07/01 20:59:42
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thanks keith. gloom and doom...
the kawai for kontakt looks pretty good. I'll have to check it out...
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Re:Kontakt 4 importing Gigastudio help
2010/07/01 21:17:26
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those demos do sound pretty nice. dang. more money that I'm having to shell out just to get out of Gigastudio. 
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Re:Kontakt 4 importing Gigastudio help
2010/07/01 21:55:39
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Do you just need a good quality piano, or are you totally in love with GPII? I ask because sampletekk is currently running a 50% off sale, as they do a couple times per year... http://www.sampletekk.com/index.php So, for example, you could get one of the Black Grand perspectives (close, ambient, medium ambient) for $25... downloadable, too... or 7CG Jr, which is a "smaller" version of a Yamaha C7 grand for $25... or one of the PMI pianos (Old Lady and Emperor are good) for $25... The sampletekk stuff is good quality, but "dated" by today's standards ... and by that I mean everybody and their brother has integrated sympathetic resonance on the piano VSTi's and sample libs these days... the sampletekk libs don't have that as of now, but they are super detailed. E.g., the sampltekk TBO lib has 31 pedal up, 31 pedal down, and 31 release samples per key. Compared to 3x7 per key for GPII (roughly, not counting GigaPulse related stuff), and similarly for other piano libs ... 3rd party kontakt scripts are available to add resonance and pedaling functionality to a couple of the sampletekk libs. My guess is that Worra will update all his products at some point to bring them "up to date" with the competition. (In fact, I've seen a couple of posts from him in these forums...) Still, $25 for one of those fine libs is a fantastic deal... definately check out some of the demos....
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Re:Kontakt 4 importing Gigastudio help
2010/07/01 22:06:31
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it's not that I'm "totally in love with GPII", but I have not found a quality sample piano that I like better than GPII, but I haven't exhausted all the possibilities, either.
I do have 7CG Jr and I don't think it's up to the same quality as GPII. I also have the Old Lady but not Emperor or TBO. I got those on a previous sale that Per had. I dont have TBO, tho.
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Re:Kontakt 4 importing Gigastudio help
2010/07/02 02:56:26
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Make sure that you are not selecting the .GIG file and that you are importing the file to a .NKI file. This can be done by navigating to the "Files" tab, selecting the file in question, and clicking "Import".
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Re:Kontakt 4 importing Gigastudio help
2010/07/02 08:12:49
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thanks, giga, I think that's what I have done, but I'll double check.
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Re:Kontakt 4 importing Gigastudio help
2010/07/02 12:56:45
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Beagle
dang.
more money that I'm having to shell out just to get out of Gigastudio.
Say that again! And again and again and again. Tascam isn't a perfect company (and I really never understood the Nemisys purchase in the first place), but I'd like to scream at them for the mess they made of GS. While I am quite distressed at losing access to what I consider the easiest to use sampler (Kontakt has, as expected, surpassed GS in capabilities - that's what happens when you stop development<G>!), the fact that I've got three or four libraries I really like and I can no longer use them makes me angry. FWIW, I was a GPII fan too, but have migrated to the SampleTekk pianos. The previously mentioned AcousticSamples piano looks promising as well, but I'm not in a position to make that investment yet. And, I'm seriously on the fence about Tonehammer's Emotional Piano. Maybe I'll just buy a real piano and learn to play it well...
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Re:Kontakt 4 importing Gigastudio help
2010/07/02 13:24:18
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