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2013/10/23 15:10:35 (permalink)

Kronos USB Audio setup in SONARX3

Hi gang,
 
has anyone had experience setting up a Korg Kronos usb audio connection to SONAR?
 
So far I get usb midi but Kronos does no appear as an audio input.

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Re: Kronos USB Audio setup in SONARX3 2013/10/23 15:18:39 (permalink)
do you have the Kronos USB driver installed?
 
While I don't use the Kronos Audio interface myself, everytime I've ever had problems with it, it's always come down to the Korg drivers.
 
Look in your Device Manager to see if you see 2 Kronos devices in there (forget what they're named off the top of my head). Also, if you set the Kronos to be your primary sound card in windows, can you get regular audio (say, from a YT video) to go through it?

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Re: Kronos USB Audio setup in SONARX3 2013/10/23 15:38:56 (permalink)
I have the Kronos USB Midi driver installed...since I can't find a usb audio driver I assume this is both audio and midi.
 
I see 2 Kronos devices in device manager
 
KORG KRONOS which has a Korg driver for midi
KRONOS which has a Microsoft driver for usb audio (is this the problem)?
 
If I right click on my speaker icon in the taskbar, select recording devices I see 'Line KRONOS' ready, then I click properties/listen to this device and I can hear it in windows.
 
For some reason it does no appear in SONAR, I'll try making the Kronos the default device and report back, thanks.
 
 
 

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Re: Kronos USB Audio setup in SONARX3 2013/10/23 15:43:55 (permalink)
Still no Kronos audio device in SONAR after deselecting my quadcapture.

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Re: Kronos USB Audio setup in SONARX3 2013/10/23 15:46:53 (permalink)
Ooh, looks like Kronos does not support ASIO, trying WDM

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Re: Kronos USB Audio setup in SONARX3 2013/10/23 15:58:43 (permalink)
That was it, Kronos does not support ASIO, it works fine with WDM.
 
Not sure if I like faff of the Korg VST, think I'll go shopping for an optical to coaxial spdif and go back to ASIO =)

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Re: Kronos USB Audio setup in SONARX3 2013/10/23 17:12:57 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Shambler 2013/10/24 00:20:56
yes, sorry. I just saw your post on the korgforums. There is no ASIO driver for the Kronos. You can use ASIO4All but results have been mixed (I tried it, but ended up having to set the buffer really high to avoid pops/clicks). WDM is your only option for Audio, which kind of makes it pretty close to useless for anything that you would normally use an Audio interface for, since the latency makes it unusable for a lot of things.
 
Personally, I don't even use USB from the Kronos. I just plug the midi cables into one of my usb interfaces and I have a firewire interface. That way I don't even need the Kronos on and I don't have to mess with their drivers at all. Then again, I don't use the editor, either.

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Re: Kronos USB Audio setup in SONARX3 2013/10/24 00:23:54 (permalink)
I think I'll take the same option, I'll either get an optical>coax spdif converter or use balanced out>in audio and standard midi connections.

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Re: Kronos USB Audio setup in SONARX3 2013/10/24 07:55:09 (permalink)
If you're using S/PDIF you'll be fixed to a samplerate of 48KHz.
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Re: Kronos USB Audio setup in SONARX3 2013/10/24 08:47:02 (permalink)
Well you could try the spdif approach.. when I did that on the Fantom I discovered that the volume knob was exclusively for the audio outs...I needed to go into a menu to adjust volume for spdif and so of course  so I reverted to the balanced outs.
 
 

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Re: Kronos USB Audio setup in SONARX3 2013/10/24 10:37:13 (permalink)
IMO, it's not worth the extra headache of using SPDIF for your audio from the Kronos. Maybe it's because I have too many synthesizers and the cost of doing SPDIF input for all of them would be mind blowingly expensive, but I've found that I have next to no noise when just using the Analog outs from the Kronos into my Audio Interface (Saffire Pro40). I even run the outputs through a patchbay and have no issues.

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Re: Kronos USB Audio setup in SONARX3 2013/10/24 10:58:11 (permalink)
My Kronos audio is connected via S/PDIF to a digital autio I/F and the keyboard is controlled via the Korg midi drivers. That works absolutely stable for me - with no losses on audio quality.
 
If I am not wrong, than a PC can support one ASIO driver at the moment only. We can not run two or more in parallel. Having more than one synth in the setup a multi-line-input audio interface is required for us PC-users anyway ...
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Re: Kronos USB Audio setup in SONARX3 2013/10/24 12:19:01 (permalink)
SoundRaider
 
 
If I am not wrong, than a PC can support one ASIO driver at the moment only. We can not run two or more in parallel. Having more than one synth in the setup a multi-line-input audio interface is required for us PC-users anyway ...


That's totally correct. Until you can transparently merge multiple audio devices natively in Windows (kind of like you can on a Mac and in Linux), to me, the Kronos is pretty much useless as an audio interface, because of the limitations of it.
 
Microsoft has made the attempt to offer the framework since Vista (WASAPI) to improve low latency audio on Windows, but from what I've seen of it, hardware vendor support is not very good (my pro40 works, but only 1/2 the ins and outs show up) and it doesn't support device combining. If those 2 things could be addressed, I would use that instead of ASIO in a heartbeat.

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Re: Kronos USB Audio setup in SONARX3 2017/05/27 08:57:51 (permalink)
Analog output from Kronos sounds great. Why not just send that to a USB mixer or interface and forget about all those compatibility issues like driver types, sample rates or latency? Or you can just create a WAV file mix from Kronos onto a thumb drive and import that into your DAW.
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