* LONG 808 bass *

hey everyone!

I'm usually not a fan of trying to sound like someone else, but I was wondering how to get that LONG, DRAWN OUT 808 bass. Is it a sound? Or is there something you have to do in the mixing stage?

thanks!

do you use battery 3 for drums or Kontakt 2? if so this link below will give you a whole expansive "tuned 808" kit I made for free.

http://www.adrive.com/public/5723d20aab89f1f99383915d36289456222270f1a706398c74db7cda43707c6c.html

I think a lot of people achieve the 808 bass sound by using an 808 kick sample and modifying the decay/sustain envelopes.
Regardless of how it's done, you're probably better off just finding an 808 bass sample and sequencing it. It's not exactly the kind of sound you could be called out on for using in a tune. Try going to the freesoundproject website, registering, and searching for 808 bass samples. You're likely to find it there.
If you'd rather experiment, get a basic synth and play around with some different oscillators and decay/sustain times. Shouldn't need more than one oscillator unless you're going for a Reece sound. I could be wrong, but sue me.

Good luck.
J.

I think a lot of people achieve the 808 bass sound by using an 808 kick sample and modifying the decay/sustain envelopes.

no...we achieve it by using an 808


analouge solutions in uk offer tonal mod kits for 808 (and many others) with an external pot-box for the additional paramteres so that you dont have to manipulate the original state of the drummachine....

ORIGINAL: twisted6s

do you use battery 3 for drums or Kontakt 2? if so this link below will give you a whole expansive "tuned 808" kit I made for free.

http://www.adrive.com/public/5723d20aab89f1f99383915d36289456222270f1a706398c74db7cda43707c6c.html

I tried your kit homie, but the sample stops after a while...I need a real long sound

I'm trying to get the kind of BASS LINE similar to Drumma Boy's beats...ex) Young Jeezy - I put on

I'm interested in that Audio Realism...can you achieve that kind of bass with Audio Realism ?

ORIGINAL: mike_mccue

Does any one still use Rebirth?

I still have my CD.

Does it compare to a real 808?

well... i know many would cry out in disagreement but i have to say that the real 808 sound really better than any plug i heard of it (rebirth/d16/adiorealism etc etc...) using it with some good compressor (hardware) on the kick and on the snare creates some magic sound...the thing that is most refreshing about it is that you can play almost any kind of loop (as silly as you program it) but the loops never sound boring (sometimes i just turn a esay bet on and jam for 10-20 minutes with some other synth to it...i guess its those microscopical analog fluctuations in the sound that causes the ear to always keep focused on the loop...(there are very interesting psychoacustical experiments that prove that hearing completely identical sounds resets your brain to a very low activity very soon...)
anyway i must say that there is a sort of magic in the sound of the original - maybe its for an other reason - still it is defenitely there...

cheers

ORIGINAL: Schlep_Math

Tomflair,

You underestimate the vast majority of folks who don't own an 808. lol
:)

hey no offense intended - just a joke anyway

just my 2 cents: if you can get an 808 at reasonable price GET IT -- its really worth the money...it has this "santa claus has brought presents" effect everytime you turn it on .....

a good tip for what you might want to do is to use the wave generator included in wavelab...you can design custom subsine sounds with fast frequency shifts - i have built some very cool sub bassdrums and subbasses with that - imo its important that you have some downward pitch glide in the decay (around from 140 down to 40 hz) in a timespan of around 0,3 - 0,5 seconds (for fat kicks)
ad some klick in front of that wave and there you go (or ad the transients of a "sharp" kickdrum....that can do wonders...

cheers

ORIGINAL: Schlep_Math

lmao @ Santa.

That guy never gives me what I want.
Apparently he's bought out by Cakewalk and Cakewalk accessories.

yeah maybe he knows that you dont believe in him anymore...if i was him then i wouldnt buy you sonar 8 either...hahaha

it's amazing that they've held their price the whole time.



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I can relate. What's the actual model number of the original famous version?

How would a guitar hack like myself know how to identify the original model?

Before I would resort to samples (too static, too little control) or a real TR-808 (too much money for the amount of use I'd get), I would at least consider a vst alternative. Since I don't consider my own ears as being a particularly great judge of authenticity in this case, I searched for this review:

SOS Waldorf Attack Review

These days it's part of the Walforf Edition collection, along with D-Pole and PPG Waves which I think are pretty good, and can be had for as little as $79. A bargain.

ORIGINAL: RichElam

Before I would resort to samples (too static, too little control) or a real TR-808 (too much money for the amount of use I'd get), I would at least consider a vst alternative. Since I don't consider my own ears as being a particularly great judge of authenticity in this case, I searched for this review:

SOS Waldorf Attack Review

These days it's part of the Walforf Edition collection, along with D-Pole and PPG Waves which I think are pretty good, and can be had for as little as $79. A bargain.

well the attack sound interesting (yet its pretty old for a software) and i would say that most sound only fit for pretty experimental stuff (at least that was my impression when i used it ages ago, and i never directly compared the 808 presets then) actually the hardware version of it would be fun to play with :-)

I thought the original was known as a TR808 but a quick trip over to Ebay showed me there are lots items Roland has named *something*808.

I guess that made me wonder if there was more than one instance of the TR808, but not really at a internal revision level.

I was thinking there may have been reissues or such that may have been put out years later.

best,
mike

You could try making your own. Here is an example: http://www.infected.co.il/futureCitySkin/pictures.php?parentCategory=Music%20Tutorials

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