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LOST FEATURE - no display for overwrite, sound on sound, or comping
In every version of Sonar before X1, there was a visible display of what recording mode you were in: sound on sound, overwrite, or autopunch. With X1 this feature was discarded. We can easily see if we're in autopunch, but no display for overwrite, sound on sound, or comping. The only way to know is to open preferences and look under Project/recording. When you change the record mode you can't start the transport and leave preference open, so you can see the mode. You have to close preferences and then if you forget which mode you're in you have to stop the transport and reopen preferences to look. It sure would be nice if we could add more things to the custom module of the control bar. We're limited to only buttons, no displays like sound on sound. With all the great new features we're getting, it seems this would be a great nuts and bolts basic feature that would be useful to many.
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Re: LOST FEATURE - no display for overwrite, sound on sound, or comping
2015/04/04 20:26:16
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Left click and hold the record button and select, that no good to you ?
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Re: LOST FEATURE - no display for overwrite, sound on sound, or comping
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Re: LOST FEATURE - no display for overwrite, sound on sound, or comping
2015/04/04 20:40:05
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Re: LOST FEATURE - no display for overwrite, sound on sound, or comping
2015/04/04 21:23:24
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scook In the large format Transport module, the record button image changes WRT to the recording mode see http://www.cakewalk.com/D...help=Recording.11.html
I've always used the large transport and I can see something on the record button in the tiniest print I've seen. I can't read it, but I see that it likely does says those words. I suppose I can get used to the shape of the print to tell which mode we're in. Is there a way to make them legible? Even as pathetic as that print is, at least it's some kind of indication. I see that hovering the mouse near the record button does have a tool tip pop up the mode we're in and that's helpful too. Can you fix that link? It gives an error message.
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Re: LOST FEATURE - no display for overwrite, sound on sound, or comping
2015/04/04 21:31:53
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The link works for me in Firefox 37.0.1. The page can be found by going to the SONAR help index, search for "recording modes" and select a link under the subject
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Re: LOST FEATURE - no display for overwrite, sound on sound, or comping
2015/04/04 21:47:20
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Hi Gerry- scook The link works for me in Firefox 37.0.1. The page can be found by going to the SONAR help index, search for "recording modes" and select a link under the subject
The link is okay here in Chrome Version 41.0.2272 as well. There's no text on the buttons themselves. The mode is indicated by the red line (new recording) in relation to the solid or wavy gray lines (existing material.) -Susan
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Re: LOST FEATURE - no display for overwrite, sound on sound, or comping
2015/04/04 21:50:43
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Here is part of the page with the record button detail. Comping  When recording, previously recorded material on the track is not heard. When a recording is done, the newly recorded material is heard and all other takes are time-muted for the duration of the new material. Overwrite  The new material replaces (overwrites) any existing material. This means that portions of existing clips may be “wiped clean” to make room for newly recorded material. While recording, you will not be able to hear material from existing clips. Sound on Sound  The new material is merged with any existing material. This means that any existing clips on the track are left unchanged and all newly recorded material is stored in new clips. While recording, you will be able to hear material from existing clips.
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Re: LOST FEATURE - no display for overwrite, sound on sound, or comping
2015/04/04 22:27:41
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Am I not seeing something or are the Comping and Sound on Sound buttons the same? It's OK. I see the difference now but it's very subtle.
post edited by mudgel - 2015/04/04 22:38:05
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Re: LOST FEATURE - no display for overwrite, sound on sound, or comping
2015/04/04 22:30:41
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mudgel Am I not seeing something or are the Comping and Sound on Sound buttons the same?
Hi Mike- The gray line under the red (recording) line in Comping is wavy, but it's straight for Sound on Sound. -Susan
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Re: LOST FEATURE - no display for overwrite, sound on sound, or comping
2015/04/04 22:31:04
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Susan G Hi Gerry-
scook The link works for me in Firefox 37.0.1. The page can be found by going to the SONAR help index, search for "recording modes" and select a link under the subject
The link is okay here in Chrome Version 41.0.2272 as well. There's no text on the buttons themselves. The mode is indicated by the red line (new recording) in relation to the solid or wavy gray lines (existing material.) -Susan
Not bad. At least now I can tell if it's overwrite I see one line and sound on sound I see 2 lines. This is far better than what I thought we had. Maybe one day they'll give us real displays of sound on sound, overwrite, and comping, but this is workable.
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Re: LOST FEATURE - no display for overwrite, sound on sound, or comping
2015/04/04 22:36:18
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I edited my post while others were apparently writing. I see the difference but it's very subtle and I find it hard to see..
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Re: LOST FEATURE - no display for overwrite, sound on sound, or comping
2015/04/04 22:38:56
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scook The link works for me in Firefox 37.0.1. The page can be found by going to the SONAR help index, search for "recording modes" and select a link under the subject
This is strange. I get email notifications when someone posts on my thread. If I click on your hyperlink from my email, I get "page not found". yet if I go to the forum and click on your actual link, it works fine. I copied and pasted both links to look at them together and see no difference. Another weird mystery.
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Re: LOST FEATURE - no display for overwrite, sound on sound, or comping
2015/04/04 22:41:18
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gmp Not bad. At least now I can tell if it's overwrite I see one line and sound on sound I see 2 lines. This is far better than what I thought we had. Maybe one day they'll give us real displays of sound on sound, overwrite, and comping, but this is workable.
Glad it's workable for you! -Susan
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Re: LOST FEATURE - no display for overwrite, sound on sound, or comping
2015/04/04 22:46:12
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mudgel I edited my post while others were apparently writing. I see the difference but it's very subtle and I find it hard to see..
It's very subtle for sure. Fortunately for me I never use comping and now I can tell the difference between sound on sound and overwrite, so this is a very good help for me.
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Re: LOST FEATURE - no display for overwrite, sound on sound, or comping
2015/04/04 23:08:54
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Lord Tim I made a mention of something similar here:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/m/tm.aspx?m=3200548
Excellent post! I agree with all you said. I miss the customization from the old days. It seemed to me when they embarked on this less clutter approach, they could have had the default install very uncluttered, but retained the customization for long time users that have preferred to choose their own level of so called clutter. My 8.5 is more streamlined than Platinum, because I only have things displayed that I use all the time, the other stuff is hidden from view. In fact I wish in Platinum we could choose what each module displays. I'd trim some things off some modules and then I'd have plenty of room for modules that I can't view without using those arrow buttons. The custom module is a start, but it's so limited. It's only buttons, no displays, or meters. The S/M/L sized modules is a step in the right direction for sure. I love to see your idea of the "show us the current state" module where you'd have icons that show what you've set up like scroll lock or pause key being pressed, auto crossfades, and of course sound on sound, overwrite, etc Brilliant!
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Re: LOST FEATURE - no display for overwrite, sound on sound, or comping
2015/04/05 01:03:07
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I have always simply hovered my mouse over the record button in the transport control, and it pops up a text box identifying what recording mode I am in. Try it - I have HORRIBLE vision, but have no problem at all seeing the recording mode in the pop up text box. Also, @gmp - try this - take the link from your email, and instead of clicking on it, paste it into a notepad text document, then copy it back to the clip board, then paste it into a browser and see if it works then. I think that might work properly, but would like you to confirm that. That would indicate some sort of character uni-code or whatever, problem - and could help identify the issue for Cakewalk to be able to address it. THANKS :) Bob Bone
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Re: LOST FEATURE - no display for overwrite, sound on sound, or comping
2015/04/05 01:26:24
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robert_e_bone I have always simply hovered my mouse over the record button in the transport control, and it pops up a text box identifying what recording mode I am in. Try it - I have HORRIBLE vision, but have no problem at all seeing the recording mode in the pop up text box. Also, @gmp - try this - take the link from your email, and instead of clicking on it, paste it into a notepad text document, then copy it back to the clip board, then paste it into a browser and see if it works then. I think that might work properly, but would like you to confirm that. That would indicate some sort of character uni-code or whatever, problem - and could help identify the issue for Cakewalk to be able to address it. THANKS :) Bob Bone
yes the text box works very good, but I like the record button method better. For Sound on sound I see 2 lines and for overwrite I see one line. That's all good enough for me and I don't have to mess with the mouse. So I'm good for now. I selected the text in my email and pasted it into notepad, then selected it in notepad and pasted it into my browser and same weird result - page not found. Here's the exact text I pasted http://www.cakewalk.com/D...help=Recording.11.html Somehow the blue line just appeared, I pasted plain black text above and it turned blue and a line came underneath it. If you go back to the original link the guy posted and instead of clicking on the hyperlink, select, copy and paste the link into the browser - it's say page not found. So something is embedded in the hyperlink with the blue link below it
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Re: LOST FEATURE - no display for overwrite, sound on sound, or comping
2015/04/05 01:38:00
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Does this work better for you?
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