LP-64 Multiband performance issues

Is anybody able to check out the below steps?
 
The workaround for me is to increase the sound card ASIO buffer size by a multiple of 4 than what you usually have, funny considering other plugins such as Native Instruments and Melodyne work just fine.

STEPS...

Create a new project using the normal template.
Insert addictive drums soft synth (Just select simple instrument track as an insert soft synth option).
Record the most basic kick pattern, quantise it 1/4 and loop it so it goes on for 3+ minutes. You don't want anything complicated.
You can now play a 3 minute drum loop and each beat is exactly the same all the way.
Go to the master channel FX BIN.
Add LP 64 multiband.
Play!

EXPECTED
Same as you played it last time expect with LP's signal processing.

ACTUAL
Some beats get dropped intermittently. Looking at the meter in the addictive drums track, addictive drums appears to be failing to play a beat or so under these conditions.

NOTE
Turn it off and the behaviour stops, however you need to press stop and play on the transport to reset.
Note this is a high spec machine and CPU is not under strain. Buffer settings are high.
I am using a Focusrite Saffire Pro 64, I never get issues otherwise.

WORKAROUND
Increase your ASIO buffer size by (say) 4 times what it is now.

Ah now I know why you were searching for a new multi-band.
 
Alex, I'm wondering if perhaps you may have the old MBL still showing in your library? Noel made a mention of fixing all the issues we were experiencing with Cake 64 (LP, Eq etc) plugs. Does yours show as version 19.0.0.306?
 
I'm wondering if you have the right one. I'll try your recipe above and get back to you with my results. I'm working tonight but may be able to try it tomorrow.
 
-Danny

Hi Danny

Thanks for responding. Yes LP64_Multiband_64.dll is on 19.0.0.306, and only one copy on my hard drive so this is definitely what I'm using. If anybody has a later version please let me know!

Thanks
 
Alex

Hi Paul, I get that within the UI as well (1.5) however if you search your hard drive for  LP64_Multiband_64.dll (the actual plugin you are executing) in Explorer, right click the file, select properties and then the details tab you will see this info. This is the build number so should be the most accurate version information.
 
Cheers...
 
EDIT - Cool read your EDIT!

Agreed John, it's good practice to freeze the synth during mixdown and this will in fact work around the issue.

However from my perspective right now, this plugin is taking up way to many resources compared to other plugins like Melodyne. I appreciate software Multibands do look ahead of time so they will use CPU greater than average, but how come Sonitus works perfectly fine  and this one just drops beats all over the place. It might not just be a resources thing, it could be just buggy. Then again it could just be me (TBC) but I'm highly doubtful....

ampfixer
Is that behaviour (LP64) not normal? I've always found that plug is only usable when I set up Sonar in "mix mode". I have to crank up the ASIO settings and the buffers for recording and midi. I always though of it as an off line type of effect. Too bad, because I really like what it does.

Well as John says (John meaning the first John as I see your name is John as well, just as well my name isn't John otherwise we will be over-John'd) the workaround is to freeze the synth which is best practice anyway....
 
Otherwise please try my steps to repro and find out for yourself (and maybe you can tell us what you think).
 
Cheers...

Dave that was it.
 
So my setting defaulted at 100, I increased it to 250. All is fine.
I have never needed to touch that setting until now, which is weird, thank you so much :)
LP-64 lives another day (and I learn something new everyday)!

brundlefly
No problems with dropped MIDI notes here running LP-64 Multiband with Addictive Drums at 128 samples. FWIW dropped MIDI notes usually indicate the MIDI Prepare Using buffer is too low. The X-series defaults to 250ms, which is too low for many systems. The Pre-X default was 500, and still seems like the better starting point.

FYI - This is also the reason for the dropped MIDI notes on the "looping issue" the other day that you submitted a bug report for.

Look at the post again, I've already marked it as answered (check the green icon to the right when you are listing all the other threads). Cheers..



 

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