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Label printing DVD drives
Sorry to post this here but I need a quick answer.
Someone was telling me that you can get DVD drives that will also print labels on to CD's & DVD's.
Does anyone know who how good they are, who makes the best ones and how much they cost ?
Also what discs do I need ?
Cheers
Steve
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/09 08:24:19
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lightscribe is what I think your referring to. the disks are a little more expensive and it takes a while to finish a disk, the more detail the longer it takes. ive had mixed results, at one point a dvd with black print only / 100 char. took about 20 minutes. these disks http://www.verbatim.com/subcat/optical-media/lightscribe/
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/09 08:31:33
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HP makes LightScribe drives wihich will etch a label on a DVD, BD or CD. A BD will cost around $100 to 150. The disc needs to be Light Scribe compatible. After the disk is burned, turn it over to burn the label. The commercial machines will cost around #1000. They will print the label using special inkjet technology after they burn the disk. http://www.summationtechnology.com/cd-printers.htm
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/09 11:21:45
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If you are talking about lightscribe, it takes forever. I will say, they look pretty cool but are monochromatic. Fine for one-offs, but if you are thinking of printing more than a couple you need to budget 1/2 a day.
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/09 11:41:10
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Thanks for that
I was going to buy one of those cheap CD labelling kits until someone told me about these drives
but I think I'll stick with my first choice or get some done professionally.
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/09 11:56:22
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Depending on the price of getting the labels done professionally and the quantity you want to print, you might also want to consider an inkjet printer with a cd printing tray. You have to use the printable CD's but these are only a small increase on standard CD's (unlike the quite big hike for Lightscribe) and you can print full colour with a lot of detail. Takes a minute or 2 per CD (depending on the amount of coverage)
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/09 12:06:22
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Lemonboy
Depending on the price of getting the labels done professionally and the quantity you want to print, you might also want to consider an inkjet printer with a cd printing tray. You have to use the printable CD's but these are only a small increase on standard CD's (unlike the quite big hike for Lightscribe) and you can print full colour with a lot of detail. Takes a minute or 2 per CD (depending on the amount of coverage)
Andy
That might be an option but do you know what makes are good and affordable ? I already have a very good printer that I rarely use so if I'm buying another one just to print CD's I don't want to spend much more than £50 which I think is unlikely. I could sell my other printer but I think I only paid about £40 for it so would get much for it. Steve
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/09 12:07:47
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I've had an Epson 300 printer for 12 years that has the CD tray, trouble is now it's getting hard to find the printable CD's, All the chain stores now only stock DVD's. I find them in Staples for $1 per CD. Used to be at Costco for $.40 per CD. No big deal if your charging $10 or more for the finished product. I sell them to my client's for $5.00 with a full color label and a paper sleeve.
It's a very professional looking product if your handy with graphics.
WE have a brand new HP all in one that has the tray. But the included software is terrible compared to the Epson "PrintCD" software. Avery and even MS word have printing software but all of those never calibrated properly to the printer...Best to print to a piece of paper first.
DO NOT use sticky CD Labels... they will jam in most peoples players. If put on off centre they will wobble the CD causing skips.
Litescribe was a total bomb. The CD's are at least $3 and they are only Septa not color. They take a long long time. I still have a spindle pak sitting there reminding me of the bad move to pay more for a DVD drive with that feature..
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/09 12:11:35
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Yeah we're only looking to make some home made CD's of my bands EP we recorded recently to sell at gigs. The kind of thing you buy when you're drunk and you think the band are awesome then you never play it again  I did just buy a 100 CD's that are "full surface inkjet printable" that were very cheap so that's a start. Steve
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/09 12:20:21
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/09 12:58:15
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/09 13:09:37
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Still using my Canon MX850 - does an excellent job printing CDs.
Not sure what Canon was up to - but I had to buy the CD tray off of eBay, plus download a rom and the CD-Label Print Software from Canon UK.. maybe they had patent issues in the US...
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/09 13:34:57
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I've been using a Casio CW-K85 thermal disc printer which has limitations, but does a nice job of printing text. I think you can include graphics, but I haven't tried that. There are several colors of ink ribbons available, but I've only used the black. If you use the software instead of the built in keyboard you can get very clean, good-looking labels. The price can fluctuate wildly. I got mine from Amazon for about $20. Today they show the price starting at around $350. I found this on Google, someone selling it for $69: http://www.imagesupply.com/cw-k85_features.asp?emailmarket=casiolabelmaker.com What's nice is that you don't need special discs. Blank discs that don't have any markings at all would obviously look the most professional. Unfortunately for you, you can't use inkjet printable discs.
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/09 14:04:00
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Hi Gang... Sorry to be late to the thread... I've been using Epson inkjet printers for this task for many years now... And I have no trouble finding disks fir it... What's more, the basic disks are relatively cheap... I pay something like $0.17 each for 52x cd-r inkjet hub printable disks... I pay a lot more for the disks I use for sale as I like the glossy, water shield disks from JVC (Taiyo-Yuden) and they cost closer to $1 each... But on either surface, the print quality is excellent... Especially if I stick with original brand inks (expensive)... But all in all I get great results at reasonable cost and effort... I'm currently using an Epson Artisan 50 which I believe can be had for near $100 I buy my disks from http://www.meritline.comI use RIDATA for my basic work... I also buy jewel boxes from them in 100 packs so the cost near $0.20 each I buy all the paper for the tray and booklet from http://www.neato.comI use the high gloss booklets (finally glossy on both sides) and high gloss trays Available in many packagings. I choose either the 20 sets ($16) or 100 sets ($120) If I had a little more cash I would also buy a heat gun and cd shrink wrap packaging from http://www.uline.com as more stores will carry them if they're shrink wrapped... I hope this helps some of you. I've spent many years developing this... I feel that when I sell my copies, they are truly my personal works of art in a modern sense as I do all but manufacture the raw materials and machines/tools to create them... I have much more of a personal tie to each copy! ;-) Keni
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/09 16:21:18
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Keni
Hi Gang...
Sorry to be late to the thread...
I've been using Epson inkjet printers for this task for many years now... And I have no trouble finding disks fir it... What's more, the basic disks are relatively cheap... I pay something like $0.17 each for 52x cd-r inkjet hub printable disks... I pay a lot more for the disks I use for sale as I like the glossy, water shield disks from JVC (Taiyo-Yuden) and they cost closer to $1 each...
But on either surface, the print quality is excellent... Especially if I stick with original brand inks (expensive)...
But all in all I get great results at reasonable cost and effort...
I'm currently using an Epson Artisan 50 which I believe can be had for near $100
I buy my disks from http://www.meritline.com
I use RIDATA for my basic work...
I also buy jewel boxes from them in 100 packs so the cost near $0.20 each
I buy all the paper for the tray and booklet from http://www.neato.com
I use the high gloss booklets (finally glossy on both sides) and high gloss trays
Available in many packagings. I choose either the 20 sets ($16) or 100 sets ($120)
If I had a little more cash I would also buy a heat gun and cd shrink wrap packaging from http://www.uline.com as more stores will carry them if they're shrink wrapped...
I hope this helps some of you. I've spent many years developing this... I feel that when I sell my copies, they are truly my personal works of art in a modern sense as I do all but manufacture the raw materials and machines/tools to create them... I have much more of a personal tie to each copy! ;-)
Keni
I'm confused now Kini You saying your epsom inkjet is able to print straight to CD's or are you printing the labels on paper and then sticking them on the CD's ? I was originally thinking of getting something Like This and to be honest I'm leaning back toward that option as it seems by far the cheapest. I'll pop in to staples and PC world tomorrow if I get time as I ;live very near to both. Steve
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/09 16:24:33
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Don't forget this is for the CD labels for an EP so would like art work, writing and maybe some colour but that's not essential. I just want decent quality that's affordable.
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/09 16:26:44
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Epson Artisan 800 works just fine, here, and I haven't noticed a shortage of the printable disks. Epson has newer models but my was about $150 several years ago. Great deal, tho the inks are expensive.
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/09 16:44:39
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I have used Kunaki.com in the past for cd's and dvd's as well. Dirt cheap in the scheme of things and you includes cases, album art, etc... and for about $1 each. They will retain it in their system for 6 months and can be 'published' on demand. Worked for me anyway  Good luck!
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/09 16:45:57
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Keni
Hi Gang...
Sorry to be late to the thread...
I've been using Epson inkjet printers for this task for many years now... And I have no trouble finding disks fir it... What's more, the basic disks are relatively cheap... I pay something like $0.17 each for 52x cd-r inkjet hub printable disks... I pay a lot more for the disks I use for sale as I like the glossy, water shield disks from JVC (Taiyo-Yuden) and they cost closer to $1 each...
But on either surface, the print quality is excellent... Especially if I stick with original brand inks (expensive)...
But all in all I get great results at reasonable cost and effort...
I'm currently using an Epson Artisan 50 which I believe can be had for near $100
I buy my disks from http://www.meritline.com
I use RIDATA for my basic work...
I also buy jewel boxes from them in 100 packs so the cost near $0.20 each
I buy all the paper for the tray and booklet from http://www.neato.com
I use the high gloss booklets (finally glossy on both sides) and high gloss trays
Available in many packagings. I choose either the 20 sets ($16) or 100 sets ($120)
If I had a little more cash I would also buy a heat gun and cd shrink wrap packaging from http://www.uline.com as more stores will carry them if they're shrink wrapped...
I hope this helps some of you. I've spent many years developing this... I feel that when I sell my copies, they are truly my personal works of art in a modern sense as I do all but manufacture the raw materials and machines/tools to create them... I have much more of a personal tie to each copy! ;-)
Keni
I'm confused now Kini
You saying your epsom inkjet is able to print straight to CD's or are you printing the labels on paper and then sticking them on the CD's ?
I was originally thinking of getting something Like This and to be honest I'm leaning back toward that option as it seems by far the cheapest.
I'll pop in to staples and PC world tomorrow if I get time as I ;live very near to both.
Steve
As Cactus Music mentioned, the labels that you print and then stick on to the CD will jam in some players. I know CD players in cars are not supposed to use them for that reason. Going that route may limit how your fans can use them.
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/09 17:45:02
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Paper labels - not so good. If they're not perfectly centered, they can cause a drive to wear out quickly. If left in a warm place, they can ooze glue... Printable CDs don't cost any more than regular CD, so there's a lot going for them.
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/09 21:33:15
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Paper labels - not so good.
This cannot be emphasized enough. The first time you have to remove a CD player from the dashboard and disassemble it because the freaking paper label peeled off and jammed up the works, you will not have enough colorful adjectives available. Just sayin'.
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/10 07:42:04
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Ive gone the paper/sticky label route before, after a few years / a few hot days in a car with the windows rolled up, its a bloody mess an cd tray print straight to disk is a better option.
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/10 10:51:28
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yes . . . please avoid stick on labels !
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Re: Label printing DVD drives
2014/02/10 12:52:00
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Keni
Hi Gang...
Sorry to be late to the thread...
I've been using Epson inkjet printers for this task for many years now... And I have no trouble finding disks fir it... What's more, the basic disks are relatively cheap... I pay something like $0.17 each for 52x cd-r inkjet hub printable disks... I pay a lot more for the disks I use for sale as I like the glossy, water shield disks from JVC (Taiyo-Yuden) and they cost closer to $1 each...
But on either surface, the print quality is excellent... Especially if I stick with original brand inks (expensive)...
But all in all I get great results at reasonable cost and effort...
I'm currently using an Epson Artisan 50 which I believe can be had for near $100
I buy my disks from http://www.meritline.com
I use RIDATA for my basic work...
I also buy jewel boxes from them in 100 packs so the cost near $0.20 each
I buy all the paper for the tray and booklet from http://www.neato.com
I use the high gloss booklets (finally glossy on both sides) and high gloss trays
Available in many packagings. I choose either the 20 sets ($16) or 100 sets ($120)
If I had a little more cash I would also buy a heat gun and cd shrink wrap packaging from http://www.uline.com as more stores will carry them if they're shrink wrapped...
I hope this helps some of you. I've spent many years developing this... I feel that when I sell my copies, they are truly my personal works of art in a modern sense as I do all but manufacture the raw materials and machines/tools to create them... I have much more of a personal tie to each copy! ;-)
Keni
I'm confused now Kini
You saying your epsom inkjet is able to print straight to CD's or are you printing the labels on paper and then sticking them on the CD's ?
I was originally thinking of getting something Like This and to be honest I'm leaning back toward that option as it seems by far the cheapest.
I'll pop in to staples and PC world tomorrow if I get time as I ;live very near to both.
Steve
Hi Steve... I do not use stick on labels... They are horrible and I abandoned them years ago... This is direct to disk cd/dvd printing... Using inkjet technology... I get a quality that comes close to commercial as a final product... Remarkably so... You must use cd/dvd that are prepared for such and they cost a few pennies more than ordinary disks... they are available all over... Using the Taiyo-Yuden (now owned by JVC I believe), the disks have a full glossy finish and the watershield prevents the ink from running as inkjets are water based ink... Do not use the paper stick ons! I repeat... Do not use them... they cause more problems than the labeling is worth! You can get an Epson printer such as the Artisan 50 for near $100... then you can print direct on the surface of an inkjet printable disk... I wish I could show you my current work... I'll try to capture an image and post it later... Keni
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