guinness28
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Lack of memory, need advice to convert midi tracks to audio
Hi, My computer doesn't want to play all the concert band for which I composed music, my CPU usage level is very near 100% !!! So, to hear my music, I muted the trumpets trombones and all the percussion. Do you think that, now that my editing is finished with the woodwinds, I could make a audio track containing all the woodwinds sounds, so that I mute the midi tracks and can manage editing for brass and percs ? How could I do that, how can I proceed ? Hope you understand what I mean. Maybe that could be a way of finishing that piece, before changing my computer ... Thanks for your help. Alex
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Re:Lack of memory, need advice to convert midi tracks to audio
2012/07/30 05:09:45
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Go through each Midi track in turn and freeze the synths.
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guinness28
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Re:Lack of memory, need advice to convert midi tracks to audio
2012/07/30 06:53:16
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Sorry but what do you mean ? Do I have to do this before making an audio file or is it the way of making it ? I'm not very familiar with this, usually I only let all in MIDI and make a single Wave for final work. Thanks for your help.
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Re:Lack of memory, need advice to convert midi tracks to audio
2012/07/30 09:16:14
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Read the help menu on freezing tracks for a good explanation of how it works.
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Re:Lack of memory, need advice to convert midi tracks to audio
2012/07/30 10:10:29
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Freezing the synth will convert all of the Midi associated with that synth into audio and place an audio waveform in the track.
You need to do this for each synth that's driving your project.
When you've done them all you'll find your CPU usage is a lot lower and you'll be able to export your entire project
In each Mid track, you'll find a little snowflake icon next to the M/S/R buttons - this is the Freeze icon. Click it.
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Re:Lack of memory, need advice to convert midi tracks to audio
2012/07/30 10:55:34
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If you are only using MIDI, save it as a CWP file to a USB drive and it will open easily on any other computer running Sonar. As long as you still use the same soft synth's it will sound the same.
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Re:Lack of memory, need advice to convert midi tracks to audio
2012/07/30 10:58:16
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Re:Lack of memory, need advice to convert midi tracks to audio
2012/07/30 15:58:37
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Thanks very much, I found it ! It was difficult because I live in France, my Sonar is in french language and they didn't translate freeze like they should have ... Si right click on the track then freeze and it's ok. I might be able tomorrow to add my percussion to my concert band, at last ! Thanks again Alex
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Re:Lack of memory, need advice to convert midi tracks to audio
2012/07/31 15:28:47
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So, I managed to freeze some tracks but that's worse !!! Before, my CPU usage level was very near 100 % and the music stopped, now, it's the hard drive's level who goes 100 % (of course, that's a lot of audio files I suppose). Is there any issue ? I ordered a new computer (Intel I7 processor 16 GB RAM and WIN 7 64 bits), but it's not home yet ...
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Re:Lack of memory, need advice to convert midi tracks to audio
2012/07/31 16:09:55
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If you have a new pc on the way then it might be a good idea just to leave everything as it is for now, use the time between now & when it arrives to do some tidying up. - Backup all your Projects
- Go through your plugins - decide which ones you'd like to keep - this will in part be determined by your intention to go fully 64 bit or not
- Gather together all your serial numbers, registration codes etc
Now, give us a bit more spec on your new machine. - Laptop or Pc?
- Hard drives - number of/speed/capacity
- Interface/soundcard
- Sonar Version?
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guinness28
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Re:Lack of memory, need advice to convert midi tracks to audio
2012/07/31 17:42:46
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Here are the specs of the new machine : - PC with Asus P68Z68 Motherboard and Intel I7 2600K processor and 16 GB RAM - 1 SSD 120 Go for system and softwares - 1 HD 1 To (7200) for samples (sounds) and 1 HD 1 To (7200) for Datas (projects) - Soundcard, my old one Echoaudio Layla 24 (not sure it will work, just wait and see) - Keep my Sonar 8.5 producer for the moment What do you think ? I really want to work with Win 7 64 bits because and tired of the lack of RAM. I want to load the whole orchestra. For sounds, here is what I own : - EWQLSO Gold Play edition - EWQL Symphonic choirs Play edition - East West RA, Colossus, Percussive adventures, Stormdrum - Garritan Personnal Orchestra and Concert band
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Re:Lack of memory, need advice to convert midi tracks to audio
2012/07/31 19:57:07
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That's will be a great computer. When you get it, run the DPCLAT test to make sure there are no backgound services hogging the CPU. http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml Some new computers come overloaded with stuff you don't need. I only load music software on my studio DAW. No internet, no problems. You can install both the 32 bit and the 64 bit version of Sonar on the same computer. SOmetimes you need the 32 bit version to finish older projects. I actually had no problem when I upgraded. All my plug ins worked. So this is from the echo audio web site,,,, it does not look good, but then it's certainly worth a try. They do have W7 64 bit drivers so I can't see it not working. You might try posting on the Hardware forum here and ask if anybody else has it working. Good luck http://echoaudio.com/Downloads/Windows_Drivers.php Note: The Layla24, Mona, Gina24, and Mia cards are all discontinued products. Although our driver still supports these cards, there is no guarantee these cards will work with newer motherboards (or in Windows 7). If you wish to continue to use these older products, our recommendation is not to upgrade your computer. The MiaMIDI card is still fully supported and should work fine with newer hardware and with Windows 7.
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Re:Lack of memory, need advice to convert midi tracks to audio
2012/08/01 03:02:25
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Hi, Thanks for your message, I think it will be a good one, I haven't changed since 6 years so you can imagine my processor isn't strong enough to load the whole orchestra. For the Echoaudio Layla 24, I have read that notice from the website, it's a good advice to post on the hardware section, I haven't thought about it. For the computer I ordered all separate pieces, and I will prepare it myself. I can't wait to received the parcel by the post !!! By the way, at the beginning of XP, I found a website called "tweak XP for music", do you know if such a website exists for Win 7 ?
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Re:Lack of memory, need advice to convert midi tracks to audio
2012/08/01 03:54:03
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There's not much tweaking required for Win 7, nothing like as much as there was for XP!
Do a search of this forum - this subject has been brought up many times in the past.
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Re:Lack of memory, need advice to convert midi tracks to audio
2012/08/01 11:59:15
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The only advice on tweaking W7 seemed to be something about core parking which turned into a 20 page thread that had no real solid answer. I asked my computer guru and his answer was Windows 7 looks after almost all those things now so don't worry about it. Building your own is the best way for sure. Then you avoid all the extra bloatware. So be careful when you ask about messing with windows 7 settings as there is some questionable advice around that is best ignored.
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