Lane Zoom - Nobody Complaining?

I've been told that the lane zoom issues have not changed...?

What's the scoop?

Keni

Thanks for the update Steve...
 
I don't think the speed comping is unexpected as much as it is the way they implemented it is... It's  a very different workflow to how I worked in the past, but it promises to be as fast/easy as before if not better... Time will tell...
 
I'm very concerned about the zooming issue because for me it's currently hard foe me to see well in X2a...
 
So, even with the new speed comping, I may not be able to see well enough and/or forced to constantly re-zoom (the nightmare of touchscreen is encroaching on me.... Ever notice how much re-zooming we do on touchscreen apps?)
 
I look forward to hearing more and checking it out myself someday...
 
Thanks again...
Keni
 

stevec
At this point, I'd say lane heights and the ability to hide a lane are the two enhancements I'd like to see most in this area.   

+1000

I don't comp very often (I will when I ask someone to sing again) so I use lanes as merely a place to stock alternative ideas (MIDI clips). So, a single row lane height and the ability to hide muted lanes are a MUST.

Keni
I've been told that the lane zoom issues have not changed...?

What's the scoop?

Keni

Hi Keni
From my perspective as a user who was no fan of take lanes in X2, most of my annoyance has been alleviated. My main gripe before was the fact that the only track that was resizable was the main track, and that was a giant mess of overlapping muted and unmuted clips. In X3 the unmuted clips are the only ones that show up in the main track. Since I can now "zoom" by soloing a clip and zooming the main track it's a much better situation.
That said, I'd really like an option for independently sizable take lanes, so I'm still crossing my fingers.
 
Dean

Hi Jlien X,
Nope, looks like it's true for MIDI tracks as well. Have a look:
 

 
 
Bottom lane is muted, top is not. In the main track only the top, unmuted clip shows up.
 
Dean

Hi Jlien,
Hmm...maybe I'm confused. Were you hoping that muted MIDI clips did not show up in the main track, or were you hoping they showed up regardless of muting state? I had been thinking that having the behavior I showed above (muted clips not showing in the main track) was intended...it's certainly consistent with how audio tracks work. 
 
Essentially, the behavior in the screenshot above is the same behavior that audio tracks show.
 
Dean

Jlien X

Razorwit
Hi Jlien,Hmm...maybe I'm confused. Were you hoping that muted MIDI clips did not show up in the main track, or were you hoping they showed up regardless of muting state? I had been thinking that having the behavior I showed above (muted clips not showing in the main track) was intended...it's certainly consistent with how audio tracks work.  Essentially, the behavior in the screenshot above is the same behavior that audio tracks show. Dean

Oh, sorry, I TOTALLY misunderstood your post (which happens sometimes.....due to my insufficient English comprehension). Also, I should have made it clear that muted MIDI clips show up even when the lanes are COLLAPSED.

This happens to me too, and I AM English...:)
The lane height issue is somewhat mitigated by the improvement that active midi clips show up in the main track as stated by razorwit..
 
but indeed you are correct that once the lanes are collapsed, that muted midi clips will appear, or even entire muted midi take lanes will appear in the midi track in locations where there is no active clip..so there is no correlation between what you see in a midi track and what you hear.
 
I am sure this is an oversight and is a bug rather than a feature request (I hope)

Thank you both for your kind words. The last time I spoke English was a long long time ago but since I work as a translator (not interpreter) and went through some training in the KVR forum before coming here I think I'm doing quite good here (but you have no idea how long I sometimes have to spend just to compose a few sentences, and also how fast I click the Edit button when I notice my own grammer mistake right after I post... LOL)
 
Anyway, yes, the muted clips showing up in the track even when the lanes are collapsed must be a bug, so I'll send in a bug report.
 
Thanks

Thanks Everyone...
 
I guess I won't know until I play with it for myself. the video was very compelling (speed comping) and I am truly looking forward to that asap... But the zoom issues while editing is an issue for me since the start... I'm glad that they addressed the Lanes issues as much as they did and I am very glad for it... and the fact that they specifically mentioned the zoom issue being addressed in an upcoming fix is much more promising than the silence during X2...
 
For me one of the zoom issues is that to comfortably (?) deal with things I mus switch between using my typical zoom commands with the drag-zoom (new) on the timeline... causing a lot of constant mousing from one part of the screen to another...
 
I'm really glad they are once again talking with us... and I can only hope that I somehow manage to get the X3 update....
 
Thanks again...
 
...and BTW. You all speak well (forum talk), I didn't even know there was a problem! ;-)
 
Keni