Lane solo not retuning muted lanes to active [sort of solved]

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2015/05/06 20:29:43 (permalink)

Lane solo not retuning muted lanes to active [sort of solved]

Anyone else seeing this?

I have a track with 4 Lanes... If I solo one Lanes, all is as should be. But when I disable the solo, the clips are still muted?

Weird!

Keni
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    Doktor Avalanche
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    Re: Lane solo not retuning muted lanes to active 2015/05/06 21:24:37 (permalink)
    As soon as they announced that drum maps solo/mute issue got fixed in Dorchester,I said I hope that it would not break takelanes signal flow, I also said I was probably paranoid.
     
    I haven't checked it yet, but I'm more paranoid now.
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    Re: Lane solo not retuning muted lanes to active 2015/05/06 23:14:11 (permalink)
    Keni
    Anyone else seeing this?

    I have a track with 4 Lanes... If I solo one Lanes, all is as should be. But when I disable the solo, the clips are still muted?




    Keni,
      Performed the steps below and could not reproduce the behavior.  Let me know if your steps are different.
     
    1. Created new project
    2. Inserted Audio track
    3. Set Loop for 2 bars
    4. Recorded 4 takes using Comping mode.  When the recording was complete Take 4 was the active take and Sonar played back the Take 4 audio.
    5. Clicked the Solo button on the Take 2 take lane.  The Takes 1, 3, and 4 automatically Muted and Sonar played back the Take 2 audio.
    6. Clicked the Solo button again to disable Solo on the Take 2 lane.  All Solo and Mute buttons cleared and Sonar played back the Take 4 audio.
     
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    Re: Lane solo not retuning muted lanes to active 2015/05/06 23:58:28 (permalink)
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    1. Created new project
    2. Inserted Audio track
    3. Set Loop for 2 bars
    4. Recorded 4 takes using Comping mode.  When the recording was complete Take 4 was the active take and Sonar played back the Take 4 audio.
    5. Clicked the Solo button on the Take 2 take lane.  The Takes 1, 3, and 4 automatically Muted and Sonar played back the Take 2 audio.
    6. Clicked the Solo button again to disable Solo on the Take 2 lane.  All Solo and Mute buttons cleared and Sonar played back the Take 4 audio.



    Yes, this very well explains the mute/solo behavior in Take lanes. Working fine here, too.

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    Re: Lane solo not retuning muted lanes to active 2015/05/07 00:00:47 (permalink)
    Any drums maps being used?
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    Re: Lane solo not retuning muted lanes to active 2015/05/07 03:37:00 (permalink)
    Hi Guys...

    No... I'm not using any drum maps... Not using comp mode... Sound on sound...

    What's really strange is that it un-muted the lanes, but muted the last clips in the lanes that were muted?

    I'm thinking that maybe something in my actions caused Sonar to mute the clips... Such as maybe I "selected" (promoted) the last clip and didn't see it change status forcing the other clips to become muted... Then while not seeing that I used solo and when un-soloed, left the clips still muted...? Sounds plausible. I'll try that tomorrow and see if it fits...

    Though the use of selecting a clip for comping is a cool quick tool, it wouldn't be the first time it got in my way! ;-)

    We don't all use Lanes just for comping! I often use them for doing quick doubled harmony when working out vocal parts... So I might have 2-4 lanes playing simultaneously...

    Thanks for checking this for me...

    Keni
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    Re: Lane solo not retuning muted lanes to active 2015/05/07 03:42:35 (permalink)
    I found takelanes buggy enough/not baked enough for me to stop using them. I look forward to bug fixes and enhancements.

    I just use track templates which I have now found are bugged under certain conditions (but that's another thread).
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    Re: Lane solo not retuning muted lanes to active 2015/05/07 07:49:09 (permalink)
    Doktor Avalanche
    I found takelanes buggy enough/not baked enough for me to stop using them. I look forward to bug fixes and enhancements.

     
    Strongly agree, but I'm still using it, scrolling the mouse wheel like hell and fighting with clips landing on wrong lanes, etc.  

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    Re: Lane solo not retuning muted lanes to active 2015/05/07 12:56:22 (permalink)
    Yeah...

    Me too... I've been very unhappy since the introduction of Lanes as a replacement for Layers... Yes, they opened new opportunities such as the comping mode, but at too great a cost. I spend far too much time making up for other issues they have brought... I don't remember zoom issues ever being a problem before Lanes and can only hope that the Bakers somehow pull us out of these issues soon. It's now near 2 years (?) of these frustrations...

    But enough of my whining about them as we're stuck with them for the foreseeable future... At least we can hope for some fixes soon?

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    Re: Lane solo not retuning muted lanes to active 2015/05/07 15:48:06 (permalink)
    Here's to hoping..
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    Re: Lane solo not retuning muted lanes to active 2015/05/08 03:43:17 (permalink)
    Sorry if this thread wasted anyone's time...

    I tried repeating this tonight and was unsuccessful, so I'm guessing it must have been pilot error... Maybe exactly as I described it above?

    Thanks for everyone's time and effort!

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    Re: Lane solo not retuning muted lanes to active 2015/05/08 06:02:44 (permalink)
    Keni
    Yeah...

    Me too... I've been very unhappy since the introduction of Lanes as a replacement for Layers... Yes, they opened new opportunities such as the comping mode, but at too great a cost. I spend far too much time making up for other issues they have brought... I don't remember zoom issues ever being a problem before Lanes and can only hope that the Bakers somehow pull us out of these issues soon. It's now near 2 years (?) of these frustrations...

    But enough of my whining about them as we're stuck with them for the foreseeable future... At least we can hope for some fixes soon?

    Keni

    I second your whine.  I still hate Lanes.  Layers worked fine, like "virtual tracks" on the old Roland V-Studio recorders, but better.  I still want to make many takes on a particular track, then cut and paste into various Lanes, so that clips sometime overlap within a track.  This is much tougher in Lanes than in Layers.  I will give soloing a test, but have also found Lanes buggy in Platinum, and I had some sort of muting problem with them in the first Platinum release, but have forgotten exactly what.
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    Re: Lane solo not retuning muted lanes to active 2015/05/08 12:29:11 (permalink)
    Hi Saxon...

    I do have overlapping clips much of the time. When Lanes were first introduced, I had trouble doing so, but as I got used to the new tools, it became easy again... Being careful which tool is in use was the issue for me...

    My biggest issues with lanes are:
    Bad use of screen real estate... Typically lanes are too big or too small for my needs outside rough comping.
    The use of the track space showing the promoted clips/lanes is a constant problem for identifying the data I wish to select or work on. I wish there was some way to turn that on or off as well as a way to place lanes within the track instead of below it!

    But again, this thread was not intended as an anti-lane thread. Stars know I've pisted plenty of them... I can only hope these issues are soon addressed so that the slow down of my workflow and comfort can be returned or maybe even improved. Some of the new tools are definitely helpful!

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    Re: Lane solo not retuning muted lanes to active 2015/05/08 18:42:02 (permalink)
    Plenty of anti-lane threads, but little effect on Sonar.  Honestly, I almost quit Sonar after 12 years of use just because of lanes.  +1 to everything you said.  I still track in X1 because I hate the distraction of the promoted lane space.
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    Re: Lane solo not retuning muted lanes to active 2015/05/08 20:56:02 (permalink)
    I guess I must enjoy screaming more than porting songs between different apps and remembering all the different commands and methods...

    If I could at least turn off the promoted image it would help my eyes and workflow a lot!

    But this really isn't the purpose of this thread... I'd be happy to contribute more to threads about fixing lanes more as its already been made plain that we will not be going back to layers...

    Keni

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    Re: Lane solo not retuning muted lanes to active 2015/05/08 21:24:00 (permalink)
    Maybe they could add a command to collapse/hide the promoted lane space--a new button near the collapse lanes button.  New feature request?
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    Re: Lane solo not retuning muted lanes to active 2015/05/09 04:11:17 (permalink)
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    Maybe they could add a command to collapse/hide the promoted lane space--a new button near the collapse lanes button.  New feature request?


    Why not?

    I'm on my way to the request forum!

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    Re: Lane solo not retuning muted lanes to active 2015/05/11 03:42:44 (permalink)
    posted in error.

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