JustGotPaid
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Laptops for SONAR Platinum
Thanks again for the best forum, with the best posters, in the world of DAW. I'm running Platinum on my HP Envy laptop. It has an i7, 16 gb. and 2.6 ghz Everything runs fine, but I know my processor speed is barely adequate by the specs. I'm curious to know if many of the Platinum users here run them on a laptop, and if there is a list of laptops that have proven to run Platinum good anywhere on the Cakewalk site. Or, maybe some of you are having good results with your laptop and Platinum and would like to give the brand, model, and specs here. Thanks! DS
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Re: Laptops for SONAR Platinum
2016/08/08 15:12:14
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I haven't used a laptop for Sonar really, since 8.5.3 quite a while back. That said, I certainly have seen and read many many threads regarding using Sonar on laptops, and have participated in some of those threads. I think that once you get above whatever the threshold for laptop requirements, it will largely come down to memory and an ability to have a 2nd hard drive in the laptop. Having a 2-drive laptop allows for comfortable and not too pricey use of a solid-state drive for the primary, while splitting sample libraries and projects off onto a 2nd internal 7,200 HDD. LOTS of folks have Sonar loaded onto a laptop, and use it for everything from capturing rehearsals on up to capturing a live performance in multi-track fashion. Just make sure you look at inherent DPC Latency of the laptop in question - evaluating things like determining if the WiFi adapters being enabled causes streaming audio performance issues or not. Bob Bone
Wisdom is a giant accumulation of "DOH!" Sonar: Platinum (x64), X3 (x64) Audio Interfaces: AudioBox 1818VSL, Steinberg UR-22 Computers: 1) i7-2600 k, 32 GB RAM, Windows 8.1 Pro x64 & 2) AMD A-10 7850 32 GB RAM Windows 10 Pro x64 Soft Synths: NI Komplete 8 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, many others MIDI Controllers: M-Audio Axiom Pro 61, Keystation 88es Settings: 24-Bit, Sample Rate 48k, ASIO Buffer Size 128, Total Round Trip Latency 9.7 ms
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Re: Laptops for SONAR Platinum
2016/08/08 16:26:08
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I run Sonar Platinum on my Dell Laptop which is similar to your setup except I have 8 gigs of ram. It runs totally fine. Of course, I only use a handful of VST instruments and effects in a session, so I'm not putting a huge load on it. The important thing is that you have an external soundcard or interface that has an ASIO driver. . . I found that using the integrated soundcards on laptops does not work well at all with Sonar. I have a Focusrite 18i8 that works great. Make sure that whenever you're running Sonar, that you have your PC in "High Performance" power mode of course.
Sonar Platinum Audio Interface: Focusrite 18i8 ASIO Interface Keys: Korg Kronos 88, Alesis VI25 Windows 8.1 x64 Laptop, 8GB RAM, i7 CPU
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Slugbaby
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Re: Laptops for SONAR Platinum
2016/08/08 16:31:35
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I run SPlat on my Dell laptop perfectly well. I've never come close to maxing out my system, and other than setting my buffer rates for minimal latency i haven't customized anything. Dell Latitude, i5 processor, Windows 8, 16Gb RAM.
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Re: Laptops for SONAR Platinum
2016/08/08 16:32:02
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I used a laptop and still do for mobile applications. (intel I5 / 8 GB ram) however when all possible, I prefer a desktop to any laptop out there for a few reasons. cooling is one, expansion is another. power consumption doesn't seem to be spared on desktops as much as laptops. Ive also found Intel's naming nomenclature leaves a lot to be desired when comparing desktop to mobile CPUs. Looking at Haswell CPUs:
Desktop i3 = 2 cores, 3-4 MB cache, hyperthreading, no turbo boost Desktop i5 = 4 cores (mostly), 6 MB cache, no hyperthreading, turbo boost Desktop i7 = 4 cores, 8 MB cache, hyperthreading, turbo boost
Mobile i3 = 2 cores, 3 MB cache, hyperthreading, no turbo boost Mobile i5 = 2 cores, 3 MB cache, hyperthreading, turbo boost Mobile i7 = 2 cores/4 MB cache, or 4 cores/6-8 MB cache, hyperthreading, turbo boost
There are slight differences in features too, but the above are the major performance enhancements. The other thing you can't see in the above is that the desktop processors tend to be clocked higher (and have higher power consumption as a consequence). over all, Expansion. you can expand so much more on a desktop than a laptop. I wont even get in to repairs. just putting it lightly...Desktops are much easier to work with upgrade.
Windows 8.1 X64 Sonar Platinum x64 Custom built: Asrock z97 1150 - Intel I7 4790k - 16GB corsair DDR3 1600 - PNY SSD 220GBFocusrite Saffire 18I8 - Mackie Control
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JustGotPaid
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Re: Laptops for SONAR Platinum
2016/08/08 17:41:34
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Thanks guys for a good range of info. Earlier in the summer I decided to try X2 on my laptop, and it worked. That got my interest going again, so later I did the Platinum demo. I was even more surprised to see that it worked on the same laptop just fine. That's when I got very interested in the latest in SONAR. I notice that Dell is mentioned several times. Right or wrong, I know some computers have the reputation of working good with certain recording software. I'm on an HP Envy. I don't particularly like HP Envy's (this is my second HP in a row) every time I do the specs and prices, HP seems to win out. I will probably get another laptop in a few months and I'm mainly just looking ahead to what has a good reputation of working well with SONAR. Seems like if a system has Win 10, i7, 2.6 or more of processor, 16 or more gigs of ram, that it should work fine, regardless of brand, but I've also seen brand play a part. I'm seeing some powerful ones on ebay with 3.10 and more processors and the big 17.3 inch screens that I love. I take it from what I've read here so far that SONAR doesn't have a specific brand that it seems to work best with. It the system requirements are met or exceeded, the machine should run SONAR fine, regardless of brand. Correct? Concerning a desktop, that is my other machine. I bought a really good desk top from Jim Roseberry at Purfect Audio about three or maybe four years ago. I just sent it to him for some upgrades and to bring it all up to speed for me again, so that will be the main one I use. I just wanted to be able to carry my studio around on my laptop when I travel, or even just to take it to a friends house for collaborations or anything else that I might need a mobile unit for. I feel sure that the desk top that Jim's rigging up for me now will be the main studio machine. Thanks for all the great answers and info! DS
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chuckebaby
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Re: Laptops for SONAR Platinum
2016/08/08 17:56:30
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JustGotPaid I bought a really good desk top from Jim Roseberry at Purfect Audio
Not only does Jim do great work, he's also a very nice guy. always helping people troubleshoot their problems.
Windows 8.1 X64 Sonar Platinum x64 Custom built: Asrock z97 1150 - Intel I7 4790k - 16GB corsair DDR3 1600 - PNY SSD 220GBFocusrite Saffire 18I8 - Mackie Control
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JustGotPaid
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Re: Laptops for SONAR Platinum
2016/08/08 18:23:56
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Absolutely right. Jim is a good citizen of the world.
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JustGotPaid
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Re: Laptops for SONAR Platinum
2016/08/08 18:25:49
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Re: Laptops for SONAR Platinum
2016/08/08 21:23:43
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Look for a laptop with a PCIe SSD drive. They are noticeably faster than standard SSD's.
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Re: Laptops for SONAR Platinum
2016/08/08 21:46:27
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Lenovo Carbon X1 Gen4 may be worth a look. Up to 16gb and you can get it with a nvm-e ssd up to 512GB. Near to UHD screen size. It's small/light/powerful. Downside: not a desktop replacement - you won't find a firewire port or second internal drive. If mobility is important and you'd use a usb3.0 interface, this would probably be a great box for it.
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Re: Laptops for SONAR Platinum
2016/08/08 22:13:35
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Tak T. Primary Laptop: Core i7-4710MQ CPU, 16GB RAM, 7200RPM HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium OS (Japanese) x64 SP1Secondary Laptop: Core2 Duo CPU, 8GB RAM, 7200RPM HDD, Windows 7 Professional OS (Japanese) x64 SP1Audio Interface: iD14 (ASIO)Keyboard Controller/MIDI Interface: A-800PRODAW: SONAR Platinum x64 (latest update installed)
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Re: Laptops for SONAR Platinum
2016/08/08 22:16:36
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For mobile recording I recently got a Lenovo ThinkPad P70 (6700HQ) . . . runs Sonar Platinum no problem. (Though, it does start to choke a bit if I load some plugin intense projects which were built on my desktop computer) I bought it stock, and have already put in a 500GB SSD drive. It also has a PCIe SSD slot, which will be good for an audio/samples drive when I can afford it . . . and it has Thunderbolt 3 ports . . . so it's definitely built for the future, though there aren't many Thunderbolt 3 audio interfaces in the marketplace yet, as I found out. It works fairly well with a USB2 audio interface for now.
Cakewalk by Bandlab, Cubase, RME Babyface Pro, Intel i7 3770K @3.5Ghz, Asus P8Z77-VPro/Thunderbolt, 32GB DDR3 RAM, GeForce GTX 660 Ti, 250 GB OS SSD, 2TB HDD samples, Win 10 Pro 64 bit, backed up by Macrium Reflect, Novation Impulse 61 Midi Key Controller, Tannoy Active Near Field Monitors, Guitars by Vantage, Gibson, Yamaki and Ovation.
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Re: Laptops for SONAR Platinum
2016/08/09 02:32:32
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I moved to a laptop lately, Acer Nitro. CPU I7 6700HQ It`s a German model it was advertised as an entry level gaming laptop. The only thing I added was a second SSD so far, I will add some more RAM in the future. It's bullet proof for me. Peace
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Re: Laptops for SONAR Platinum
2016/08/09 03:01:19
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I use a Clevo shell based around a quad core i7. It was fast when I got it four years ago and still copes well with most things I throw at it. The power adapter is a bit bulky but it's kind of a mobile desktop so I don't mind. I use an eSATA SSD for samples. The OS is on a smaller SSD and I have a second "regular" 1TB drive for documents and recording. I have my main desktop too but the laptop is great for working on location and even finishing projects as it handles all mixing plugins just fine if I up the latency a bit to 256 or 512 samples.
Don't forget to ask Jim Roseberry too! Or, if this is only very incidental, just use your current laptop. It doesn't seem too underpowered to me, it has double the RAM mine does and probably a newer i7.
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Re: Laptops for SONAR Platinum
2016/08/09 10:18:46
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Yes, all the highest performing custom laptops are using a Clevo shell. No off-the-shelf laptop is going to compare to the Clevo running a desktop 6700k CPU. The only downside to the Clevo is cost.
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