Latency? digital mixer.

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2012/06/22 10:43:20 (permalink)

Latency? digital mixer.

If I'm playing guitar or singing through a digital mixer (adat lightpipe to PC), monitoring the guit or voc input and the output of Sonar from the mixer, and have a bunch of latency compensating plugs active in sonar, what is happening to the part/s I am recording from the dig mixer (voc guit)?

Are they going to be recorded late? Or, is that all somehow compensated by Sonar and the audio card (RME)?

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    timidi
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    Re:Latency? digital mixer. 2012/06/22 18:54:30 (permalink)
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    Re:Latency? digital mixer. 2012/06/22 19:53:18 (permalink)
    If recorded via a regular audio interface the audio would be fine - time will be correct even if the monitoring is a little delayed. But I've not tried via  adat. Perhaps you can try to record with metronome and then turn on metronome at playback and see if there is any delayed on the recorded audio ?

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    Re:Latency? digital mixer. 2012/06/22 20:45:02 (permalink)
    Thanks Tom. 

    As I said, I monitor through the mixer in real time (or as real as the mixer's convertors allow). So, my monitoring is not delayed. What I'm talking about is the track/s I lay are being played to a delayed signal because of the plug in compensation. As far as playing a metronome from Sonar, it would be delayed along with whatever else is playing back.

    My point is (I think), If Sonar is compensating for the latency in the plugs, then what I am hearing as I play/sing is delayed. So, I would be playing to a delayed signal. No? 

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    Re:Latency? digital mixer. 2012/06/23 00:29:30 (permalink)
    I'm not sure I'm understanding the question entirely? You're using "latency compensating plugins?" The way most DA hardware works... you send signal to Sonar, but use the DA's own monitor for the active input signal... Sonar sends the tracks already recorded to the DA hardware in real time and your hardware mixes that with your input signal. The actual recording of your new signal is delayed, not the playback from Sonar. Or more to the point, whatever you hear coming out of your DA is what you're playing to and what your recording will sync to when it's finished. Unless, of course, Sonar is using the wrong delay time, but this is unlikely if you used the Audio profiler.

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    Re:Latency? digital mixer. 2012/06/23 10:21:07 (permalink)
    If Sonar has the correct information about the delay of audio output and audio input, and if it is configured to use those delays (usually by default), and if you play in sync with the sound from Sonar, the recorded audio will be lined up with the rest of the project. The first "if" can be tested. Since your digital mixer adat is going in through another sound card, RME, there is potential for incorrect delay info, because Sonar only has info about the RME's delays. So testing would be good. If it is "off", you can configure the correct info.
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    Re:Latency? digital mixer. 2012/06/23 13:04:45 (permalink)
    I'm not sure which digital mixer you are using, I use a Yamaha 01v for input to my audio interface and monitoring playback, It's latency is said to be under 2ms so I have never noticed any tracks being out of sync. Easy to test , just re-record a drum track via the DAW output back to the mixers/ interface combo input and zoom in on the transients and see if they line up.
    post edited by Cactus Music - 2012/06/23 13:06:06

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