Latency in Sonar with EMU 1820m

I'm having a real hard time getting an acceptable latency with Sonar.

I've tried WM/KS, WAMASPI, and MME, but it's super laggy.   Moreover, it's laggier than it should be for the given size.

For example, with WAMASPI, I put it at 10ms, and it sounds laggy, if I put it an 10ms in FL Studio (with ASIO drivers) it sounds great.

I've tried using ASIO drivers in Sonar, but no sound.

Anyone have any ideas?  (note yes I've installed the latest drivers, lol).

EMU 1820m

matt...download the driver from asio4all install it,go to your preference menu and choose asio under drivers..close sonar..open sonar go to menu again click asio on the drivers tab to open the control panel,deactivate your systems soundcard in here only...activate the asio driver in here only by clicking the wrench which open up tools..play around with it...you got nothing to lose..if it dont work..simply uninstall it..its only 470kb for memory...but im willing to bet..90 percent youll have no latency if you set it up right

did you run the patch matt...and are you sure about that robert?

Positive.
Asio4All is good for what it is, a wrapper for WDM, for cards that do not have native ASIO drivers.
But if the sound card has its own native ASIO drivers(which the E-MU does), this results in a conflict that basically destroys communication between the software and hardware.
However, I do highly recommend Asio4All for sound cards that do not have their own ASIO drivers.
It made a world of difference when I was starting out with my old soundblaster card.
I tried something with it a while back, and had to uninstall it to regain control of my E-MU.

matt how did you make out???

My 1820 has settled down, also. Only problem now is that the I/Os are random. I have to try several to find a hot one. One session, In 1L might be ASIO 3L, next time ASIO 11L!

At least the dam' thing is running...

tried installing ASIO 4 all, that at least gave me sound under ASIO, but it's not stable, and has continued distortion.  Even at 1024 samples

hmm, and now I have distortion, on all settings, maybe something else is wrong (sigh).  I'm going to try a restart.

did you go into the asio4all panel and turn off your other soundcard? thats probably where the distortion is comming from..robert said he didnt think this was a good idea to use asio4all..my guitarist uses it with greaT RESULTS on windows 7..hopefully he wiil be back to give you some insight ..my opinion is when your exahsting all other options you gotta reach..play with the settings in asio4all it will work

im talking about the asio4all panel..if you have an onboard soundcard thats you other soundcardand in the asio4all panel it will show up,you must disable that card or it will conflict with the asio4all..are we on the same page..are you using asio4all or your emu's card?

I uninstalled ASIO4all because it only gave me 2 I/Os Like I said, with mine I set up a strip for In 1L in the DSP, then have to go try drivers in Sonar to find which  one corresponds to that today. It's a PITA. And yeah, those Beta drivers came out last June. Get off the dime already!

I have an 1820 m working under Windows 7, with ASIO.  It was a bit fiddley to get setup, but it's working, pretty much.
 
Patchmix is a pain in the butt, but very flexible.
 
I'm sorry if you have done these steps, but just want to check.
 
1) Do you either have or created an strip for ASIO?  Mine is named ASIO 31/32.  I think it was setup this way.
2) Then make sure in the Audio tabs that EMU ASIO is selected
3) Finally, as part of PatchMix (sorry, not in front of me right now), is a virtual 'patch-bay'  You have to take the output from the strip and assign it to the output you want to get the audio out of.  For example, if I want the headphone output, then I had to assign it to the headphone output from the main mix.  You will have to do the same with whatever outputs you want to use.
 
However, the same issue that I have as you in regards to trying to get a low latency....Mine is setup to about 10ms, and it's not laggy, but for some reason I can't set it too much lower, then I get motarboating and dropout....and I don't get why that is...I've seen some folks report they can get 2.5 ms....but that was probably the XP drivers.
 
Hope this helps.  I can also look at my exact setup at home and let you know exactly what the setup is.

Getting Started with E-MU's PatchMix DSP and SONAR

This should get you started with the PatchMix side of things. I used one of these cards for a long time. I do not recommend ASIO4ALL drivers.

Ok, that got it working, thanks !!!

Although, it's funny it still sounds a bit laggier at 2ms in Sonar, than the 10ms in FL Studio.   but that could be my imagination.  I will ask my wife when she gets home (she's the proffessional piano player).

Thanks again,

No, ASIO4all has been unistalled.