Layers - can't get them to work

The Help file says:
 
"If you enable a track's Show Layers option, Sonar stores the track's clips in separate layers whenever any of the following happens: .....You record over some pre-existing data while in Sound On Sound mode."
 
- I've enabled the track's Show Layers option.
- I have the project in Sound On Sound mode.
- I've selected Store Takes in Separate Tracks.
 
But every time a record the vocal Sonar overwrites what's there.
 
What am I missing here?

Thanks FBB.  I'm still struggling.  So I leave layers off until I've recorded a second take?  'Rebuild layers' is where exactly?
 
(My own stupid fault for trying to get into this two weeks before it's abolished!)

FastBikerBoy


The layers won't show as layers until after the event. You do the recordings which stack on each other then click the layters button which should break them out.

Layers already showing will remain empty until you "Rebuild layers" from the right click menu.

That seems like a step backwards from 8.5. In 8.5 you can loop record and watch the layers pile up.
That makes easy to, say, mark that take n:o 6 was bad, so you can delete it right away when youve taken the eleven takes.

Kalle Rantaaho

FastBikerBoy


The layers won't show as layers until after the event. You do the recordings which stack on each other then click the layters button which should break them out.

Layers already showing will remain empty until you "Rebuild layers" from the right click menu.

That seems like a step backwards from 8.5. In 8.5 you can loop record and watch the layers pile up.
That makes easy to, say, mark that take n:o 6 was bad, so you can delete it right away when youve taken the eleven takes.

 
Can you? I didn't think anything has changed in that dept from earlier versions but it's been a long time since I used anything pre-X1. I haven't even had it installed for over a year.
 
Regardless,  the waveform being formed is still visible but as a large full track layer that then gets replaced by the next loop/take until recording is stopped then the layers display. Which is arguably better behaviour anyway or certainly for people like me.
 
By the time I'm on my 54th loop take trying to get it right any layer display is going to be so small as to useless by that time.
 
 

Looping - is that what I've missed here?  I haven't had looping on as I didn't particularly want to stand at the mic and sing consecutive versions of the song without stopping.  I was starting and stopping record mode manually. 

Skyline_UK


The Help file says:
 
"If you enable a track's Show Layers option, Sonar stores the track's clips in separate layers whenever any of the following happens: .....You record over some pre-existing data while in Sound On Sound mode."
 
- I've enabled the track's Show Layers option.
- I have the project in Sound On Sound mode.
- I've selected Store Takes in Separate Tracks.
 
But every time a record the vocal Sonar overwrites what's there.
 
What am I missing here?

Jonesey and FBBoy, you guys are gonna grimace when you read this again...
 
"- I've selected Store Takes in Separate Tracks. "
 
You won't see layers if you have your record takes set for seperate tracks. Layers will only function if you have your takes set to the same track. Otherwise your takes get sent to...get ready...different tracks. :-)

Doh!

See, now I couldn't sleep...
http://soundcloud.com/stoons-1  "Chuckles"
 
Ah well, got that out of my system.

OK, very first post. I am using Sonar X2. I am following the video at Cake TV http://www.cakewalk.com/C...NARU.aspx/Master-Class 'Drum Production 1'. All is going fine. At 19:03 in the video, it is showing how to add layers to the track. Easy enough. But when I right click like they do on the video, I don't have an option to see track layers. I have as options "Notes", "7bit values", and "Fit Content", nothing more, nothing less. Any ideas?