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Leaf and Stream
Hello everyone, Here's a new song I've been working on. It was inspired by simply sitting and playing Ivory II (got it for Christmas). It's really the first time I have done any orchestration, so it is a little plain and simple. I had a lot of fun doing it and will likely try my hand at a more complex piece "down the road". http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=12269569&q=hi&newref=1 Hope you enjoy! Regards, Dan
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/13 08:29:07
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It sounds musical and it's lovely.
It is a pleasure to listen to and to let it fill the room with harmony.
Thanks for sharing.
best regards,
mike
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/13 10:48:04
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beautiful tune and ambiance.. I liked the arrangement and orchestration .. sounds good
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/13 12:23:50
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Love the sound of this... I must look into this software/sample package...
Great arrangement/production...
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/13 15:51:01
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mike_mccue
It sounds musical and it's lovely.
It is a pleasure to listen to and to let it fill the room with harmony.
Thanks for sharing.
best regards,
mike
Thank you for your kind words Mike! Regards, Dan
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/13 15:52:09
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Makke
beautiful tune and ambiance.. I liked the arrangement and orchestration .. sounds good
Thank you Makke! Regards, Dan
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/13 15:54:03
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Love the sound of this... I must look into this software/sample package...
Great arrangement/production...
Frank, Just to avoid any confusion, only the piano is Ivory II. Everything else is a mix of other samplers, mostly Omnisphere, Kontakt and Garritan stuff. Regards, Dan
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/13 16:44:13
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wow , amazing Sound !!
Compliments for the mix ... without word !!
Bravo !!
Regards
Elix
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/13 19:25:03
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That is SO pretty, Dan! I love it and think you did a great job!
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/13 23:19:09
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Dan, Wonderful piece and you said in one of my posts you wouldn't know where to start on a song like this - WRONG, this is great and sounds so beautiful and soothing to the ears. Great piece of work and it all fits together nicely.
Peace be with you. Blessings, John
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/14 01:52:30
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Beautiful. Very tasteful arrangement.
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/14 05:10:23
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Very lovely piece - I love the arrangement and the choice of harmonies.
Cheers,
Terry.
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/14 07:48:01
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elix
wow , amazing Sound !!
Compliments for the mix ... without word !!
Bravo !!
Regards
Elix
Thank you Elix! Regards, Dan
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/14 07:50:01
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Janet
That is SO pretty, Dan! I love it and think you did a great job!
Thanks Janet! Now you know how Ivory II sounds...lol. Regards, Dan
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/14 07:53:12
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theguitarplayer
Dan, Wonderful piece and you said in one of my posts you wouldn't know where to start on a song like this - WRONG, this is great and sounds so beautiful and soothing to the ears. Great piece of work and it all fits together nicely.
Peace be with you. Blessings, John
John, thanks for the kind words. I was referring to your pure orchestral piece. Starting with a piano solo is easier, I think. I won't know until I try it though, ha ha. Thanks for the encouragement! Regards, Dan
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/14 07:55:40
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Katnip
Beautiful. Very tasteful arrangement.
Thank you! Regards, Dan
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/14 08:03:11
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Very lovely piece - I love the arrangement and the choice of harmonies.
Cheers,
Terry.
Thanks Terry! Since I had not done orchestration before, I had to force myself to limit the harmonies. I wasn't really sure what instruments normally play which parts in a "real" orchestra, so I just limited myself to 5 sections, plus piano and harp so I wouldn't create a mess. Lol. Regards, Dan
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/14 08:42:14
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Well for a first effort at orchestration Dan, I would say thats amazing. Taking away all the technicalities, sometimes its good to sit back and just say - Is it good to listen to? That is, so peaceful and relaxing without being 'ambient' which to me is the lazy way of going for that effect.
Looking forward to listening to that again, and also to more from you.
Regards
Garry
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/14 11:38:00
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The kettle drums fit so perfectly, tone, volume, the whole package. Seems it's hard for some people to get that right. And.... everything else is sa good or better than the kettles!
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/14 11:50:48
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This couldn't be better. It's a pleasure to hear your creativity at work!
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/14 12:49:56
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Well for a first effort at orchestration Dan, I would say thats amazing. Taking away all the technicalities, sometimes its good to sit back and just say - Is it good to listen to? That is, so peaceful and relaxing without being 'ambient' which to me is the lazy way of going for that effect.
Looking forward to listening to that again, and also to more from you.
Regards
Garry
Thanks Garry, I appreciate the comments. Regards, Dan
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/14 12:55:20
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The kettle drums fit so perfectly, tone, volume, the whole package. Seems it's hard for some people to get that right. And.... everything else is sa good or better than the kettles!
Thank you Warren! Practice, practice, practice, right? I will say that this one was easier to mix because there aren't any drums and bass. This was all about sitting the piano in the mix so it could be heard and blending everything else around that. Regards, Dan
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/14 12:59:15
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This couldn't be better. It's a pleasure to hear your creativity at work!
Thank you Lynn! Regards, Dan
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/14 13:24:52
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Yeah, as a keyboard player, you pretty much have to do some orchestration. I'm not sure how your stereo field is set up but it feels like those strings are covering the piano a bit? I would probably bring the piano down the pipe and pan everything else to some degree it is a much more complicated style of music to mix well. Because there is so much going on. I love Ivory, good job on that buy :-)
Orchestra:
1. Lay it out with panning, pay attention to which instruments own what part of the spectrum and where they sit in the field.
2. Use the verb to position some farther back behind others w/less verb up front.
3. Be sure to have areas of quiet passages and others that are quite loud with crescendos.
4. Then there's the whole bit about which instruments play when, who has the melody, who has the counterpoint. It is so much more complex and dynamic than pop, rock, country, blues and most of what we do here.
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dcumpian
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/14 20:01:31
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Yeah, as a keyboard player, you pretty much have to do some orchestration. I'm not sure how your stereo field is set up but it feels like those strings are covering the piano a bit? I would probably bring the piano down the pipe and pan everything else to some degree it is a much more complicated style of music to mix well. Because there is so much going on. I love Ivory, good job on that buy :-)
Orchestra:
1. Lay it out with panning, pay attention to which instruments own what part of the spectrum and where they sit in the field.
2. Use the verb to position some farther back behind others w/less verb up front.
3. Be sure to have areas of quiet passages and others that are quite loud with crescendos.
4. Then there's the whole bit about which instruments play when, who has the melody, who has the counterpoint. It is so much more complex and dynamic than pop, rock, country, blues and most of what we do here.
I tried to lay out the orchestra in my head first, then positioned the parts the way I saw them. I spread the strings too wide though, I think. Ended up having to tweak the piano a bit to get it to stand out. You're right though, there are some spots where the piano is still a bit hard to pick out. I used two reverbs: 1) Concert hall (Perfectspace) where most of the orchestra went using sends, and 2) an ambient space using the Lexicon MXP that the piano and select instruments went to, again using sends. Cellos had very little reverb at all. I tried to do what you suggested by adjusting the send when an instrument needed to go further back. I also HPF instruments that needed to get pushed back even further. All in all, it was a fun learning experiment and I want to do more. So much so that I order EWQL SO.  Regards, Dan
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/14 20:20:44
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Dan, that is so sweet - very nice.
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/15 08:53:33
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Dan, that is so sweet - very nice.
Thank you Mark! Regards, Dan
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/16 16:33:10
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This is amazing considering it's your first try at orchestration. The arrangement is lovely and would work really well in a film or documentary type setting.
A very atmospheric track.
Nice work Dan.
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Re:Leaf and Stream
2013/04/16 19:22:21
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Delicious.
Thanks James! Regards, Dan
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