batsbrew
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Led Zep IV reissue------Yes, or No?
who has it?
opinions?
is the 2nd disc of alternate mixes worth it?
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Re: Led Zep IV reissue------Yes, or No?
2014/11/05 11:35:30
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I think I'll start a lawsuit since a couple of the songs on that album sound like ones I came up with.  (But I'll probably still buy the reissue.)
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Re: Led Zep IV reissue------Yes, or No?
2014/11/05 11:59:59
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I'm waiting on I,II,III,IV and Houses Of The Holy -Deluxe CD Editions to arrive so I can't answer you yet.
Should arrive by Friday.
Figured if I was going to get them I should go with the bonus discs too.
Since I have all the original albums in ace condition no reason to dup them and especially at the cost of the Super Deluxe Edition Box offers.
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Re: Led Zep IV reissue------Yes, or No?
2014/11/05 12:22:26
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i already have 2 and 3,
they were worth it.
but IV is one of my alltime favorites,
curious to know the concensus on that one.
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Re: Led Zep IV reissue------Yes, or No?
2014/11/05 13:20:34
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Re: Led Zep IV reissue------Yes, or No?
2014/11/05 13:59:39
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I think they are remastered, but they have been remastered at least once (I think twice) already, so there is very little different in the main material than what has been out for quite a while. They main selling point is the alternate versions and outtakes and stuff.
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Re: Led Zep IV reissue------Yes, or No?
2014/11/05 14:00:49
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I don't understand the appeal of remasters if there wasn't something wrong with the previous version. Unless the analog tape they used the last time was inferior to some newly discovered, markedly superior, lower generation 2 track, it means they are using tape that's several years older or the same digital transcription that was used the last time. If I didn't like the EQ from the last one or thought it needed gobs more compression (  ), well I can do my own EQ. I am curious about the extra material though.
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Re: Led Zep IV reissue------Yes, or No?
2014/11/05 14:12:53
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Thanks sven. I was asking because i would prefer them NOT be remastered. I am curious about the extra material
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Re: Led Zep IV reissue------Yes, or No?
2014/11/05 15:02:20
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The 90s Box Sets remasters were absolutely fine and took care of the issue - which was that the catalog had not been properly mastered for CD.
Once that out of the way, admitting that Page himself supervised the original remaster series, my impression is that anything they do from there on would be intrusive and detrimental to the music, and would probably also compromise the dynamic range.
The extra material I'd be curious to hear obviously. Though oddly enough, I remember Page saying that that was it and that there was no material left unreleased... That was back in the 90s.
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Re: Led Zep IV reissue------Yes, or No?
2014/11/05 15:49:52
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Aaarrrrgggg!
This forum is starting to cost me a lot of money!!!
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drewfx1
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Re: Led Zep IV reissue------Yes, or No?
2014/11/05 15:50:53
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2014/11/05 17:02:39
Rain
The 90s Box Sets remasters were absolutely fine and took care of the issue - which was that the catalog had not been properly mastered for CD.
Once that out of the way, admitting that Page himself supervised the original remaster series, my impression is that anything they do from there on would be intrusive and detrimental to the music, and would probably also compromise the dynamic range.
Agreed.
The extra material I'd be curious to hear obviously. Though oddly enough, I remember Page saying that that was it and that there was no material left unreleased... That was back in the 90s.
I think he was saying that there were no other unreleased studio tracks besides the two on the box sets. But obviously they released a fair amount of live stuff since then. I'd think there was more live material, but whether Page would want to release it is another question. Also I'm not sure how much was kept after all those tour recordings were stolen from him and released as boots back in the '70's.
In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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batsbrew
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Re: Led Zep IV reissue------Yes, or No?
2014/11/05 16:19:09
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there is a whole backstory to the NEW re-mastering.
you can google it.....
but this is page remastering the entire catelog in high def (rolling stone did interviews)
page:
"The catalog was last remastered 20 years ago," he said. "That's a long time. Everything is being transferred from analog to a higher-resolution digital format. That's one of the problems with the Zeppelin stuff. It sounds ridiculous on MP3. You can't hear what's there properly."
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Re: Led Zep IV reissue------Yes, or No?
2014/11/05 16:23:17
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drewfx1
Also I'm not sure how much was kept after all those tour recordings were stolen from him and released as boots back in the '70's.
Heh, I've got some of those!
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Re: Led Zep IV reissue------Yes, or No?
2014/11/05 16:34:52
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batsbrew
there is a whole backstory to the NEW re-mastering.
you can google it.....
but this is page remastering the entire catelog in high def (rolling stone did interviews)
page:
"The catalog was last remastered 20 years ago," he said. "That's a long time. Everything is being transferred from analog to a higher-resolution digital format. That's one of the problems with the Zeppelin stuff. It sounds ridiculous on MP3. You can't hear what's there properly."
He also remastered stuff for Mothership just a few years back. After all the compression I think it clocked in somewheres between 11 and 12 bit resolution. Really.
In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: Led Zep IV reissue------Yes, or No?
2014/11/05 16:38:25
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craigb
drewfx1
Also I'm not sure how much was kept after all those tour recordings were stolen from him and released as boots back in the '70's.
Heh, I've got some of those!
I have no idea what you're talking about! (cocks head, looks upward and whistles)
In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: Led Zep IV reissue------Yes, or No?
2014/11/05 16:47:32
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☄ Helpfulby drewfx1 2014/11/05 16:39:17
STILL waiting for Led Zeppelin V...
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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batsbrew
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Re: Led Zep IV reissue------Yes, or No?
2014/11/06 00:16:33
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batsbrew
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Re: Led Zep IV reissue------Yes, or No?
2014/11/07 11:11:34
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batsbrew
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Re: Led Zep IV reissue------Yes, or No?
2014/11/07 11:17:22
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it's good.
companion disc, meh, who cares.
they made the right decision about re-mixing at the time.
the end product, was perfect.
excellent remaster.
they took a 'dark' original mix, and without adding sheen and treble, they made it more 'clear'.
this is what mastering is really all about.
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