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2015/06/18 13:40:14 (permalink)

Let us show other users your SONAR tricks

Hey guys,
 
In a forthcoming release, we'll be introducing a new Start Page. This will replace the QuickStart dialog, providing more functionality, a more modern look, and information about SONAR's growth and development.
 
One of the ideas we're working on is a "tips" module, where we would present a daily usage tip or trick. 
 
This community is great at helping each other out and sharing cool hints with noobs :). Seems like a perfect source for material. So I'd like to use this thread to build a list of tips. Anywhere from beginner to advanced. If your submission is chosen, we'll be sure to try and credit you (using your forum name).
 
Please share your 1-2 sentence magical tips and tricks here. Let's try to keep conversation to a minimum and limit it to submissions. That'll help me manage and curate the list without having to wade through chatter.
 
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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 13:45:37 (permalink)
I'll start:
 
"After you zoom in or out, you can easily get right back to where you started. Roll the mouse buttons... In other words: Hold right mouse button and click the left one. Works the other way too."

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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 13:49:30 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby John 2015/06/18 16:43:56
Use Save As or Save Copy As as your project progresses so you can always return specific versions is case of mistakes, crashes or corruption. Use "Per Project Folders" with "Copy all audio with project" options selected and choose a new destination (like an external drive) to make occasional backups of your work(s) in progress for extra security.
 
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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 13:49:56 (permalink)
Multiply round trip milliseconds by sample rate to get number of samples. I needed more than default for Melodyne.
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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 13:53:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby John 2015/06/18 16:44:00
Route all like instruments to busses for easy volume level management. eg: All drums > Drum Bus > Master Bus. All Rhythm Guits > Rhythm Guit bus > Master Bus, etc.
 
PS: I don't want credit for anything I post popping up on people's Quickstart screens. I annoy enough people here with my constant posting without invading the sanctity of their DAWs. lulz
post edited by Beepster - 2015/06/18 14:11:53
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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 14:19:05 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby John 2015/06/18 16:44:17
Use Track Folders to organize your tracks to easily Hide/Show, Mute/Solo, Freeze/Archive groups of tracks. You can also use Track Folders to create "Selection Groups" of clips while while recording to allow editing of multitracked instruments such as drums (Edit > Preferences >  Project - Record: Under Mult-track grouping choose "Group only clips in folders").
 
Note: Perhaps too long but that is an extremely useful feature that is best made known BEFORE people start recording.
post edited by Beepster - 2015/06/18 14:28:33
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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 14:22:51 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby John 2015/06/18 16:44:23
In a follow up to beepsters comment on busses. Put everything you send to a single bus into a folder. Group drums into a folder, bass guitars into a folder, guitars into a folder, vocals into a folder, etc. 
 
Everything in a folder goes to a buss > master arrangement. 
 
Keeps everything clean, collapse all the folders sans what you're working on. Makes it easy to solo/mute,  the group (even without using quick groups), etc.
 
edit - Haha, beepster updated that while I was typing my note!!
 
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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 14:24:01 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bayoubill 2015/06/18 17:57:06
1. Keep all faders at unity when recording for an accurate meter reading. Set you levels at the source not in Sonar. 
 
2. When recording meters can be set to peak instead of RMS or average.
 
3. Best practice is to use multiple Hard Drives for sample storage and project recordings.  

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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 14:29:12 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby John 2015/06/18 16:44:38
Take note of the number below the meters. It shows you the peak level for what you played last. If you play a song all the way through it will show the peak level of the track/bus/master for the entire song.

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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 14:30:13 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby John 2015/06/18 16:44:42
Avoid ear and monitoring equipment damage due to unexpected volume spikes by inserting a limiter (such as Boost11 or Nomad Factory BT Brickwall) to your Master Bus as you work. Remember to turn off (or at least be aware of) the limiter before doing any final mixing as it may alter your sound.
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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 14:32:16 (permalink)
4. Use of multiple display monitors can streamline one's work flow. 
 
5. Set a Keybinding for reset of clipping indicators is helpful. Y is a good keybinding for it.
 
6. Access the Sonar forum for help 24 7.
 
post edited by John - 2015/06/18 14:39:10

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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 14:37:49 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby John 2015/06/18 16:44:46
Keybindings are your friend. The most useful and basic keybindings for easily accessing all the controls you need are: D = Dock, I = Inspector and B = Browser.
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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 14:39:03 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby John 2015/06/18 16:44:50
To quickly and accurately set an initial tempo for a new project before recording:
 
- Disable Stop at Project End in Track View Options if it isn't already so you can run the transport in an empty project.
- Start playback with no click sounding, count off several measures in your head, and stop the transport on the next downbeat.
- Shift+M to open Set Measure/Beat At Now, enter that measure and beat and Okay.
- SONAR will automatically reset the initial tempo to make the specified timeline beat fall on the absolute Now time where you stopped the transport.
 
This works especially well when setting a tempo for someone else. You can just ask them to count, clap or play a steady tempo on an instrument, and start/stop the transport on their count.
 
Note that SONAR will also insert a matching tempo at the beat you set. This extra tempo map entry won't matter unless you want to change the initial tempo (e.g. to round it to the nearest whole number). In that case, you'll want to delete the extra entry (Views > Tempo). 
 
 
 

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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 14:43:42 (permalink)
Post count matters not.
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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 14:43:42 (permalink)
Post count matters not.
 
Edit: Perfect yet totally unintentional looping FTW!
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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 14:47:20 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby John 2015/06/18 16:45:08
When using input-monitored hardware synths in a project, group the Solo buttons of the corresponding MIDI and audio tracks to ensure the instrument keeps sounding when either track is soloed.
 

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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 14:48:12 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby John 2015/06/18 16:45:13
Perhaps someone can word this better for me. 
 
Need more effect on a specific phrase? Put desired effect on a bus and send it to your track. Use automation to control the send level at specific points. Isolate the word, phrase, or any part you want by clicking a couple nodes at each end. Click additionally needed nodes in between to adjust to your liking. (I usually use this for reverb and echo/delays)
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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 14:48:49 (permalink)
Mine is a very simple tip:-
 
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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 14:51:15 (permalink)
8. Instrument Definitions can be searched by a right click on the patch widget in the Inspector or the track header.
 
9. Try loading Standard MIDI files via Sonar's  file open menu. Import will strip all tempo information to match the current project.
 
 
10. Freeze can be used to lower the CPU usage on tracks with a lot of plugins active.
 

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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 14:57:33 (permalink)
11. Set up a master buss and have all tracks and or buses go through it. Use sub buses to keep like instruments and vocals together. 
 
12. When exporting an entire mix use the master buss as the sole source.
 
13. Use buss colors to identify tracks feeding them.
 
 

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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 15:07:56 (permalink)
Comment, this is a really fun thread and a great idea! But it could put the forum out of business!  

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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 15:15:40 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby John 2015/06/18 16:45:23
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6. Access the Sonar forum for help 24 7.



I first thought of putting this as a link on the start page itself (as well as the Help menu where it is).
 
The "wiki" idea keeps coming back to mind in the form of a "tips, tricks, and how-to" page simply because there are a LOT of these scattered in the forums, but no real consolidated location for them (so they get asked/explained repeatedly). More specifically having these in a step-by-step type format so a new user can follow along.
 
Hmmm... how about a "search the forum" feature (start page or help menu, or both) that lets the user type in search terms but prefaces the search with "site:forum.cakewalk.com " for them? Then new users won't be caught offguard trying to use the embedded one

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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 15:21:38 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby John 2015/06/18 16:45:27
Hope I'm not duplicating anything.
 
#1. PDC button in Control Bar - to create a vip lane for monitoring through Sonar.
Lifesaver when needing to record something late in mixing process.
Gobal bypass is up there too.
 
#2. Dim on Solo - to not flood phones with more than you need for a take.
 
#3. Track templates - yet another lifesaver.
Multimike setup in a flash, full setup of brass section with busses and all.
There is no limit what you can use it for.
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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 15:27:21 (permalink)
Record your tracks @ -12db or lower
Be sure a bus doesn't go over -6db
Be sure master bus doesn't go over -3db

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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 15:28:49 (permalink)
Distance makes depth - Reverbs
Spring on guitars also vintage vocal
Plates on vocals
Hall- ballad and strings
Chambers on drums (synth for paces )
Rooms for atmospheric spaces
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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 15:38:54 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2015/06/18 16:01:39
Top of the list.
 
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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 15:46:52 (permalink)
Don't run with scissors.

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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 15:58:38 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bayoubill 2015/06/18 18:05:47
Instead of using the File menu or the Quickstart dialog to create a new project, use ctrl-N (close the quickstart dialog first or even better set it to not open at all)
 
It will make a new project using the Normal Template WITHOUT requiring you make a directory or give the project a name.  And yes this is because ctrl-N is mapped to a different function (plain "New") than File->New.
 
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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 16:20:14 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby magik570 2015/06/18 18:15:14
You can create more realistic drum parts by using the Quantize and Velocity MIDI plugins on your drum tracks to randomly vary the timing and velocity of the hits.
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Re: Let us show other users your SONAR tricks 2015/06/18 16:20:23 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2015/06/18 16:38:14
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