Lexicon MX300 problems with Sonar X1

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2012/04/22 15:30:21 (permalink)

Lexicon MX300 problems with Sonar X1

Just go a lexicon MX300. Mainly because I read a lot of rave reviews about the sound quality and how it supports various DAWs including Sonar X-1. At first it didn't install because I needed to update the driver to a Win7 64. Now it installs fine. Software works fine and it was picked up and adopted by Sonar.  Clocks reads fine at 48k; Digital In ;Dry out -- however Sonar either crashes, freezes as it only seems to want everything at 44.1k. The lexicon doesn't seem to lock at anything but 48k. What can I do??? This is a brand new unit for me, so I suspect I must be doing something wrong...however i have followed installation to a "T".

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    Re:Lexicon MX300 problems with Sonar X1 2012/04/22 15:41:29 (permalink)
    Opps...I use Sonar X-1 producer, if that makes any difference...
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    Re:Lexicon MX300 problems with Sonar X1 2012/04/22 15:48:17 (permalink)
    First your going to have to get Sonar set at 48hz, Go to your interfaces control panel and set it's rate to 48, Them make sure all settings in Sonars Audio Options point to 48. The web site for your unit does say this ----24-bit/48k-44.1kHz sample rate

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    Re:Lexicon MX300 problems with Sonar X1 2012/04/22 17:18:57 (permalink)
    I will go over that again, but I did set Sonar's audio options like that and it didn't take. Instead Sonar crashed. It froze when I tried to play stuff recorded previously at 44.1.
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    Re:Lexicon MX300 problems with Sonar X1 2012/04/22 21:59:28 (permalink)
    I had an MX400, which should operate basically the same as the MX300. If you have S/PDIF on your computer's sound card, that is the best way to connect the MX300. This will make the MX300 sync to your sound card, which Sonar is also synced with, and enables pure digital communication between the two, which eliminates a set of D/A and A/D conversions, decreasing the round trip latency. That is how I had mine set up, and it worked flawlessly. The MX300 manual should give all the necessary details.
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    Re:Lexicon MX300 problems with Sonar X1 2012/04/23 00:25:49 (permalink)
    My sound card is a Tascam US 1800 and I connect the MX300 to it via S/PDIF ins and outs. However the USB (from the MX 300) goes to my computer. It seems the MX300 only locks on a digital signal if is at DIG 48K. However the sound card (the TASCAM) goes dead at this setting. At 44.1K the sound card is fine, but there is no DIG LOCK and there is an Input A error on the MX300. If I set everything to 48K (Sonar and the TASCAM) I'm no further ahead. The computer says the sound card is not compatible with the setting (however manufacture specs say it is 44.1-48K). A bizarre bit of nonsense here.
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    Re:Lexicon MX300 problems with Sonar X1 2012/04/23 01:03:57 (permalink)
    I would search through your Tascam manual. It needs to be the master clock to which the MX300 synchs with. Make sure it is set to master clock, 48Hz prior to loading the MX300 VST control.

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    Re:Lexicon MX300 problems with Sonar X1 2012/04/23 13:55:45 (permalink)
    Phill,

    I misunderstood your first post and assumed you weren't using S/PDIF, sorry about that.

    The MX300 should be able to synch to either 44.1 or 48khz from the Tascam, whichever works best for the rest of your setup. If you have a lot of previous material recorded at 44.1khz, that might be the better choice.

    Make sure that in the MX300 System Menu BOTH the input source and the clock source are set to digital. This is shown on page 12 of the manual.

    At the risk of stating the obvious, make sure the S/PDIF cables are correct: Out of Tascam connected to In of MX300, Out of MX300 connected to In of Tascam.

    I sure hope you can get it working, because it is a nice setup when it works. You'll also get to explore the world of external inserts in Sonar, if you haven't already! 
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    Re:Lexicon MX300 problems with Sonar X1 2012/04/23 16:48:33 (permalink)
    I did all the things you suggested, but the MX 300 won't digitally lock unless it's set to DIG 48K and that's where I get the Input Source A error which is weird because it says it locked, however the TASCAM doesn't produce sound when this happens. I know the TASCAM unit says its good 44.1-48K, but now I'm wondering. I have an email call into TASCAM to see if they can clear this up. Also into Lexicon. I don't think it's a Sonar problem, now. I think it's a compatibility problem between the TASCAM unit and the MX300
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    Re:Lexicon MX300 problems with Sonar X1 2012/04/23 17:47:32 (permalink)
    Back a few posts you mentioned you have the USB cable running between the computer and the mx3000? Is this for control? Just wondering if that could conflict with USB weirdness and ASIO drivers. I have the Tascam US1641 and it's set at 48hz. But I do remember something about having to disable the SPDIF ports to make that work. I'll go mess with mine later. Have you tried setting everything at 44.1 just to see if that works? It's not the end of the world.

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