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2011/05/15 05:45:34 (permalink)

Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR?

Ive demoed the UAD Lexicon Plug with Sonar..its sounds really good.
Lexicon also has a native Reverb bundle..which is around the same price and doesn't require a pci card.

Any comments on UAD Lexicon vs Lexicon's own plug?

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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/15 06:23:09 (permalink)
    I'm yet to try either, but my Duo is running out of DSP space... If they're the same sound, then I'll probably spring for the native stuff. What's the cost natively? $349 for the UAD is painful...

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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/15 06:30:48 (permalink)
    I would sreiously , reallly seriously try Softube Tsar and SSL X verb before making a choice ....

    qwerty , the lex is really easy on CPU ...even the lex coming with sonar is really good and underatted ...and don't forget perfect space and Rythinmind impulses , he "impulses" great gears including lex, tc6000 ect ....
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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/15 06:34:21 (permalink)
    Qwerty69


    I'm yet to try either, but my Duo is running out of DSP space... If they're the same sound, then I'll probably spring for the native stuff. What's the cost natively? $349 for the UAD is painful...

    Q.


    Yeah..that's what Im afraid of too....I dont really want to depend so much on my UAD2 dsp. The Lexicon package is 399..lot of demos on the Lexicon site...sounds great.
    You can see the Lexicon package HERE

    actually the RANDOM HALL to my ears is the best...I like to get "just" that plug in....dont know if its sold as a stand alone....let me know if you find it on the site.

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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/15 06:36:24 (permalink)
    Down if you choose Lex (or other native) i suggest you request a price to Tony Belmont ....i alwayz have great deals from him .....

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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/15 06:42:58 (permalink)
    Zo


    Down if you choose Lex (or other native) i suggest you request a price to Tony Belmont ....i alwayz have great deals from him .....


    Who/where is Tony Belmont....
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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/15 06:45:43 (permalink)
    Zo


    I would sreiously , reallly seriously try Softube Tsar and SSL X verb before making a choice ....

    qwerty , the lex is really easy on CPU ...even the lex coming with sonar is really good and underatted ...and don't forget perfect space and Rythinmind impulses , he "impulses" great gears including lex, tc6000 ect ....


    I think you're right ZO..............we probably already have exactly what we need within SONAR and UAD plugs...Im just to lazy to experiment.............the vendors LOVE guys like me. ha

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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/15 06:48:14 (permalink)
    http://www.highprofileaudio.com/Plugins.html

    Email him , he gave me good quote on softube ...and softube is not on his web site so you should request even if it's not on its website ....

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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/15 06:53:52 (permalink)
    Down , i tested deep X verb and it has that lex sound and more and crazy good controls !
    You should try also and easy on cpu too ....

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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/15 06:56:34 (permalink)
    I also gonna try this ....http://emptyroomsystems.com/

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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/15 09:46:00 (permalink)
    I use the

    PCM Native Reverb Plug-in Bundle

    amazing reverbs on this bundle.

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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/15 09:48:14 (permalink)
    I use the

    PCM Native Reverb Plug-in Bundle

    amazing reverbs on this bundle.

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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/15 10:19:49 (permalink)
    I would download lots of free Lexicon impulses for Perfect Space and use the extra $400 towards the mic purchase.
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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/15 18:34:25 (permalink)
    bluzdog


    I would download lots of free Lexicon impulses for Perfect Space and use the extra $400 towards the mic purchase.
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    Will you point me to a place to download IPs for PerfectSpace?
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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/15 18:38:53 (permalink)
    Here's another plug for Tony Belmont at High Profile.  Great guy.  Great service.  Killer prices.  Agree with Zo also to at least check out the TSAR.  Everything Softube makes is top notch.
     
    PS:  If you already have UAD don't you have both DreamVerb and Realverb Pro???  Aren't they gettin it done for you??
     
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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/15 18:49:56 (permalink)
    I use the lexicon pcm bundle with sonar x1 but i use as a bus plug in because it pretty cpu hungery but the bunsle works great
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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/15 18:59:44 (permalink)
    Oh yea, I almost forgot.  If you have an iLok, Waves has their RVerb from their Renaissance package on sale for $49 bucks.  That's a heck of a deal on a very fine reverb.  And you can demo as well.

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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/15 19:58:52 (permalink)
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    bluzdog


    I would download lots of free Lexicon impulses for Perfect Space and use the extra $400 towards the mic purchase.
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    Will you point me to a place to download IPs for PerfectSpace?

    The noise vault is a good place but it's down right now. If you google Lexicon impulse responses you should find some good leads.
    Heres a pretty good list of impulse sites: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2102159
    post edited by bluzdog - 2011/05/15 20:17:53
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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/15 23:00:07 (permalink)
    yorolpal


    Oh yea, I almost forgot.  If you have an iLok, Waves has their RVerb from their Renaissance package on sale for $49 bucks.  That's a heck of a deal on a very fine reverb.  And you can demo as well.

    +1 


    excact ...i forgot about this one ...waves is proposing great deals on single plugins.....and the renaissance is by far the most serious heat they released !!!

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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/16 02:21:01 (permalink)

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    bluzdog


    I would download lots of free Lexicon impulses for Perfect Space and use the extra $400 towards the mic purchase.
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    Will you point me to a place to download IPs for PerfectSpace?
    These look promising: - I haven't tried them yet, but found this from Zo's recommendation above. http://rhythminmind.net/1313/?cat=182

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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/16 03:55:54 (permalink)
    Thanks for the posts...
    I downloaded the Lexicon IPs at rhythminmind.net...will try them this week in PerfectSpace.

    I really liked what I heard on a few of the presets on the New UAD Lexicon 224 plugin..but at $350 I dunno yet.  My generation was hooked on the Lexicon sound.......and other things.

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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/16 04:23:01 (permalink)
    Ive decided I will just "build-in" the reverb...check out my new studio

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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/16 10:41:50 (permalink)
    The Waves Rennaissance reverb is pretty nice. I've been using it for years. I'm favoring convolution reverb right now. Keep in mind that the Waves stuff is still 32 bit. I'm not sure how wup (Waves update Plan) works on singles when they come out with 64 bit.
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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/16 10:51:33 (permalink)
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    I'm yet to try either, but my Duo is running out of DSP space... If they're the same sound, then I'll probably spring for the native stuff. What's the cost natively? $349 for the UAD is painful...

    Q.


    Yeah..that's what Im afraid of too....I dont really want to depend so much on my UAD2 dsp. The Lexicon package is 399..lot of demos on the Lexicon site...sounds great.
    You can see the Lexicon package HERE

    actually the RANDOM HALL to my ears is the best...I like to get "just" that plug in....dont know if its sold as a stand alone....let me know if you find it on the site.

    Jeff


    There are some random hall impulses in the 480L impulse set,
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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/16 11:12:48 (permalink)
    Jeff,

    I know this isn't much help...but I had to post.

    I haven't even listened to the new UAD plug but if it were me I would get it over the native simply because UAD gets stuff so "right".  As you know I say that as a former "I don't believe the hype" guy wrt UAD plugs.  Now that I use them...I am a believer.  Just my .04 (adjusted for inflation).  ;)

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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/16 12:12:49 (permalink)
    Lexicon's own plug?

     
    Everything UA makes sounds good.  Their new 224 verb is no exception.
    If you already have the UAD2... and you love that particular sound, I think it makes sense.
    If you don't already have the UAD2 hardware, and especially if you're looking for more variety, the native PCM series is going to be hard to beat.
     
    There are some great sounding reverb plugins... (SAR, SSL, etc)
    But at the end of the day, while they may sound great, they're not Lexicon reverbs.
    That may or may not matter to you...
    But if you're specifically wanting that Lexicon sound, I wouldn't bother trying to find a decent emulation.
    I'd go straight to the source... and get the best you can afford.
    The PCM series is far better sounding than the Pantheon.  Not even close...

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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/16 12:55:41 (permalink)
    Yes..I will probably go with Lexicon bundle..later.

    I just downloaded some of THESE LEXICON IPs  I put them in PerfectSpace....many sound really good..of course PS, lets you tweek them too............try some.

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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/16 15:40:04 (permalink)
    downsouthstudio


    Yes..I will probably go with Lexicon bundle..later.

    I just downloaded some of THESE LEXICON IPs  I put them in PerfectSpace....many sound really good..of course PS, lets you tweek them too............try some.

    Jeff

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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/16 17:28:27 (permalink)
    I have just about every hardware algorithmic reverb created. As others have said you can download the IR's I've posted to get you 90% there.
    http://rhythminmind.net/1313/?cat=182
    My Nebula captures are the next notch up after standard IR sampling.
    More then adequate for most tasks..
    The current Lex native bundle is nice but not what I would recommend for the "lexicon" sound that we know.
    In the last 3 years we have reached a level playing field with hardware/software algorithm code.
    A few select algorithm developers have taken the torch & continued the algorithmic reverb legacy. We now have a few Plugins that are on par & better then many hardware units. Some are direct ports.
    Great new Hardware is being produced as well. Some algos are still hardware only. Bricasti, quantec, eventide, & some of the TC 6000 algos.
    Before forking out for the Lex native I would highly recommend checking out these developments by the 3 reverb gurus of our day.


    Relab - (covers all things "lex sound" & then some)
    LX480 - Lexicon 480 clone to the smallest detail + new "HQ" improvements (plugin)
    X-verb - Relabs modern take on a classic sound. (great stuff) sold by SSL (plugin)

    valhalladsp - (gets you the surreal quality of eventide + the intimate spaces of quantec must haves)
    ValhallaRoom - natural verb. (plugin)
    ValhallaShimmer - big & surreal (plugin)

    Bricasti Design

    Also for powercore owners many of the 6,4,3,2k algos have been ported. My hardware TC 3000/Vss3 is till my go to verb for real space creation. With powercore dead I'm expecting these to be ported to native shortly.
    If anyone owns a TC konnekt audio interface you will also have the Fabrik R DSP. Nice 4000 algo.

    Well thats my recommendations/thoughts on the current state of things. You could say i'm somewhat of a reverb freak.





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    Re:Lexicon Reverb Bundle or UADs Lexicon plug with SONAR? 2011/05/16 19:13:47 (permalink)
    Thanks Eric for taking time to paste the vendors/links.

    I like the rich reverb sound of the 70s-80s Nashville country recordings. Probably most used a real plate and hardware.

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