Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason)

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Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason)

Many (from The Coffee House) may remember this as spacey's (Michael) idea to create a song whereby all the participants only know the basic structure of the song and can contribute any part they wish. James Yoyo was to produce this piece (tentatively titled: Spockpit's Revenge).

After life got in the way for James and a few of the The Coffee House Band members had realized that they had contributed parts for the song I asked James if he would mind if I ran with the song in a much more stripped down way. He graciously said yes.

I submit my advance apologies to all that contributed. As I began the project and assembled The CHB submissions, it was clear that the song had a voice with what was there and so I did not ask James for all the other submissions. Again to all, I apologize for not attempting to incorporate all of the submissions into this mix.

Footnote: Originally Phil did the vocals but felt that the song would be better served with the vocal talents of Robby. Robby went the extra mile and also provided some of his excellent keyboard skills.

The players are:

Robby Robbins - Vocals, organ and piano
Spacey (Michael) - Acoustic guitars
SteveStrummerUK - Electric guitar
Ohgrant -Guitar, harp
Ed "Bapu" Kocol - Bass, drum programming/sequencing  
Jason "Qoqol" Kocol - Violin, cello





Composed by Michael Henley, James Yeomans & Phil Doyle
 
Mix & Mastered  by bapu (with cajoling by The Daniac)

You can hear the Hi-Rez version HERE


Enjoy, and as always comments and suggestions are welcomed.





post edited by bapu - 2011/09/06 14:59:21
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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/05 12:12:36 (permalink)

    This would sound a lot better with a album cover that I could stare at while munching popcorn.



    I really like the whole up time feel of this. When the harmonica comes in it all just feels like a big bowl of jelly beans. It just feels right.

    I like the harmonies a bunch to.


    Thanks for sharing.

    best regards,
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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/05 12:18:27 (permalink)
    Fantastic, all around! 

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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/05 12:28:58 (permalink)
    it's ok, but my contribution was better... lol, nice to hear something was rescued from this! would have loved to hear it sans steel guitar, but there ya go. great vox and BV.

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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/05 13:19:15 (permalink)
    Liking this very much...it has a nice 'Americana' feel, almost early REM or Wilco. Fine performances from all concerned,l right in the pocket. Nice mix too.

    2nd listen now...

     
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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/05 13:42:33 (permalink)
    Not Bad

    Actually its pretty good.



    Nice guys, good to here the Spacey on acoustic.

    What drum package Ed?

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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/05 13:50:49 (permalink)
    @McQ - I'll bring the album cover over on movie night. You have anymore Kettle Korn Salt? Thanks for listening.
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    @mgh - As there is no steel guitar in the song, we're golden.
    @james - 2 listens. Thanks.
    @wookiee - Thanks for listening. The kit is Nashville through the first verse. The snare from 1st Chorus on is a combo of Nashville and 2 instances of DKFH Sonor 2 snare. One for the oomph and one for the snap. Under all that is the Nashville side stick (faintly) and the whole kit is all pumped through Magnetic.
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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/05 15:51:56 (permalink)
    Bapsi- no steel guitar? no faux country stringed-instrument? hmm, will have to relisten on the DAW tomorrow...

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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/05 16:02:50 (permalink)
    Was this done in Sonar X1??? 



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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/05 16:06:36 (permalink)
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    Was this done in Sonar X1??? 



    I know I recorded my bass part in X1. Srummy used X1 too. Not sure about Robby. Michael stated below he used X1. Grant is probably a yes too. My son Jason did his parts into my X1c.


    All the mixing and mastering was done in X1c. 

    Bottom line is it's 99.44/100ths percent X1c to be sure.



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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/05 16:07:54 (permalink)
    Well ... I heard the first 1:19 of it. My connection won't allow me to stream it and keeps stopping about 20 ~ 30 seconds in. And for some reason the download software I use is only getting part of it?

    I remember when you guys were kicking this around. What happened to the cowbell or does that come after 1:19? :)

    The only thing I noticed about it ... the piano is muddy and way too subdued. If it would be clearer it would play more of a role and change the entire song ... but that's personal preference and it may very well be you don't want it to take over like I'm hearing.

    What I heard I really liked. :)





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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/05 20:10:06 (permalink)
    Really a great job here on the song writing, the mix, and the performances... Really good IMNSHO. Thanks for everything Ed, Spacey and Phil.
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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/05 21:17:28 (permalink)
    This sure turned out well.

    Quite the crew you got together there, Ed.  :) 
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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/05 21:52:16 (permalink)
    Awesome job, it's amazing how people so far apart can put a song together so well, like they were in the same room.  Great song all around.
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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/05 22:15:48 (permalink)
    I used X1.

    I never expected this. It started as an experiment. It didn't work as I originally intended and then it didn't work at all.

    What a great bunch of talent to take a simple acoustic part and create something out of it.

    I must say that James (YoYo) was a major part of my part. He offered ideas and made requests for additional parts. It reminded me of many years ago working with producers...
    a love hate relationship. Hate someone talking about what you should be doing and then very glad they did. It's all about working together and I think "they" demonstrated that very well.

    Kudos to you guys...I think the writing, vocals and musianship is outstanding.
    Very proud to have a small part in this trip.

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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/05 23:07:21 (permalink)
    That's the "thing?" About music?

    It finds it's level... It's like water? You can try to keep it out? Just try? Water will find its level... It will find it? It will not be kept out? 

    And as such? 

    One can write a song? And it may seem nothing, or not much? But under the right circumstances? Water will find its level... Try to stop it? Good luck. 
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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/06 01:04:17 (permalink)
    An enjoyable listen, nice job fellas!


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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/06 05:25:20 (permalink)
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    Dappa1


    Was this done in Sonar X1??? 


    I know I recorded my bass part in X1. Srummy used X1 too. Not sure about Robby. Michael stated below he used X1. Grant is probably a yes too. My son Jason did his parts into my X1c.


    All the mixing and mastering was done in X1c. 

    Bottom line is it's 99.44/100ths percent X1c to be sure.
     
     
    I take it that no plug ins were used...you just used it as a recording and mastering agent????

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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/06 09:14:48 (permalink)
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    Dappa1


    Was this done in Sonar X1??? 


    I know I recorded my bass part in X1. Srummy used X1 too. Not sure about Robby. Michael stated below he used X1. Grant is probably a yes too. My son Jason did his parts into my X1c.


    All the mixing and mastering was done in X1c. 

    Bottom line is it's 99.44/100ths percent X1c to be sure.
     
     
    I take it that no plug ins were used...you just used it as a recording and mastering agent????

    I have about twelve 32bit bitbridged plugins and about fifteen 64bit plugins in this project. Ranging from Cakewalk, Nomad Factory, UAD, Sonitus, IK Multimedia, Steven Slate FG-X even some Waves plugs.
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    Dappa1


    Was this done in Sonar X1??? 


    I know I recorded my bass part in X1. Srummy used X1 too. Not sure about Robby. Michael stated below he used X1. Grant is probably a yes too. My son Jason did his parts into my X1c.


    All the mixing and mastering was done in X1c. 

    Bottom line is it's 99.44/100ths percent X1c to be sure.


    I take it that no plug ins were used...you just used it as a recording and mastering agent????

    I have about twelve 32bit bitbridged plugins and about fifteen 64bit plugins in this project. Ranging from Cakewalk, Nomad Factory, UAD, Sonitus, IK Multimedia, Steven Slate FG-X even some Waves plugs. Vsti's were four instances of Kontakt, and three instances of EZDrummer. Nothing was frozen.


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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/06 11:09:55 (permalink)
    Nice playing, guys, great job.  This is close to what I imagined in my head when I first heard it, but was unable to produce with the tracks and format (everybody's in!) that was the project's parameters.

    I will say this: the song is cool, the instrumentation is cool, but the mix left me wanting a bit: there does not seem to be a main musical element to key in on, and the parts are too distinct to blend together in a nice mélange that would underpin the fine vocals of the notoriously banned Robbie. ;)

    Though the mexican flavor of the intro just brought one thing to mind: where are the castanets?!?

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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/06 11:57:02 (permalink)
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    Nice playing, guys, great job.  This is close to what I imagined in my head when I first heard it, but was unable to produce with the tracks and format (everybody's in!) that was the project's parameters.

    I will say this: the song is cool, the instrumentation is cool, but the mix left me wanting a bit: there does not seem to be a main musical element to key in on, and the parts are too distinct to blend together in a nice mélange that would underpin the fine vocals of the notoriously banned Robbie. ;)

    Though the mexican flavor of the intro just brought one thing to mind: where are the castanets?!?
    James, that is what was different than what I was going to do before you were brought in. ( I am very glad that
    you agreed to give it go and hope that if it is tried again that you would produce it).
    I was going to use only ONE part submitted for each instrument that I felt was closest to the feel.
     
    I feel that is my fault that it failed. I had never tried an "experiment" such as this and really didn't have the details worked out.
    I do believe there is a lot going for this type of project. Very interesting and major fun. I hope maybe it can be tried
    again in a way that is not so....hard for the producer. ADDITION- Don't read anything into this...I mean exactly what I
    said. I was very glad James took on the role...I could not have handled it. Way over my head to produce a project
    like it may have been. I thought bringing him onboard for that AND his ideas was a perfect move.
     
    But not all was lost....far from it.
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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/06 12:15:12 (permalink)
    Well, I'm impressed.  Excellent job by everyone.  Very catchy tune.  And the production is exceptional.

     
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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/07 02:02:41 (permalink)



    Bapu called me and demanded that I listen to this song.

    So I listened to it. 

    It's a song. I've heard songs before and I know what they sound like so I wasn't really too surprised. 

    This one too sounded like a song. 

    All songs sound pretty much like a song in my honest opinion. 

    I've heard hundreds of thousands of them - plus this one  

    Yes Ed was correct when we called me. He did indeed post another song in the song forum. I know. Because I listened to it. It sounded like a song to me. In conclusion, I agree with Ed that it's true about his post of the new song. 


















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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/07 05:19:29 (permalink)
    Hi, Ed,

    Wow, I think this is a spectacular collab with fully textured, fresh sounding modern production!


    The songwriting, musicianship, vocals and instrumentation are truly superb, and every element of the finely woven mix has a clean, spacious feel and sounds absolutely pro quality.  I think this really sounds radio-ready and has a very cool, hybrid genre all it's own.  I'm on my third listen.

    Dynamite work by all eight of you, keep 'em coming, boys!
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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/07 08:48:46 (permalink)
    Another nice collab and a sweet song.  Ya'll did excellent.....Especially love the harp, violin and Robby's vocals.  Drums sound waaaaay too compressed.

    All in all a fine job.
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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/07 09:35:32 (permalink)
    Such a great song.  Great melody and hooky chorus.  Nice retro production and sound.  Robby's vocals was a perfect fit for this song.  I don't know about the crunchy guitars serving as background around 2:30.  It does not seem to fit with the style of the song.

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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/07 11:33:39 (permalink)

    @Bub - The piano choice was concious. I was not after an "up front" piano. See detailed explanation below.
    @LpMike75 - Thanks for stopping by
    @bandontherun19 - Thank you for gracing us with your stellar abilities
    @Janet - Thanks for listening
    @amateur - with the internet, we're really just a click away. Thanks for listening
    @james & spacey - you two should get a room and duke it out?
    @MetalTek - Thanks for the word of encouragement
    @Mooch - maybe
    @Bob Oister - radio ready? WOW! That's a compliment for the permanent record book. Thanks.
    @No How - Thanks for the listen and the compliments. Can we argree to disagree on the drums?
    @vechung - Thanks for the kudo's. I tried that middle section without that crunchy guitar and felt it was too empty.


    post edited by bapu - 2011/09/07 12:39:28
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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/07 13:35:33 (permalink)
    If I didn't mention it before this is a really cool song!

    I hope you make another collab soon

    All the best guys
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    Re:Line In The Sand feat. Spacey, Robby, SteveStrummerUK, Ohgrant, Bapu & Son (Jason) 2011/09/07 13:55:30 (permalink)
    spacey


    jamesyoyo


    Nice playing, guys, great job.  This is close to what I imagined in my head when I first heard it, but was unable to produce with the tracks and format (everybody's in!) that was the project's parameters.

    I will say this: the song is cool, the instrumentation is cool, but the mix left me wanting a bit: there does not seem to be a main musical element to key in on, and the parts are too distinct to blend together in a nice mélange that would underpin the fine vocals of the notoriously banned Robbie. ;)

    Though the mexican flavor of the intro just brought one thing to mind: where are the castanets?!?

    James, that is what was different than what I was going to do before you were brought in. ( I am very glad that
    you agreed to give it go and hope that if it is tried again that you would produce it).
    I was going to use only ONE part submitted for each instrument that I felt was closest to the feel.
     
    I feel that is my fault that it failed. I had never tried an "experiment" such as this and really didn't have the details worked out.
    I do believe there is a lot going for this type of project. Very interesting and major fun. I hope maybe it can be tried
    again in a way that is not so....hard for the producer.
     
    But not all was lost....far from it.


    I think the next project is to write a song, have a good singer record it, and then just sendout the vocals and see what people come up with.
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