Roy Schestowitz
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Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
Why pay money for Windows software? Why not run Linux and Ardour and Audacity? It's free. Linux is free. Come join us in the Linux fold and leave propriatoery Windows in the dust. Ardour boows everything, including ProTools out of the water. See www.schestowitz for details.
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/04 21:35:21
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Audacity does have a good noise reduction tool that made me sit up!... Otherwise, I'd be hard pressed to name 20 programs and hardware interfaces that have Linux drivers.
I know a guy sounds just like you. He's computer crazy, but in the end asks me for my equipment opinions.
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/04 22:06:33
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Thanks for letting us know. As soon as I've picked a distro out of the 150+ available, and a window manager out of the 20+ available, and a package manager out of the 10+ available, and a word processor out of the 5+ available... I'll get right on it.  - zevo (Linux fold member since 1999)
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mark s
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/04 22:18:47
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Sounds Great! Are there some good test comparisons I could look at? BTW, didn't I see you at the SWP meeting? (made 900 posts on that?)
post edited by mark s - 2007/12/04 22:31:17
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DebbiesHot 
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/04 22:36:03
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Ardour sounds like cheap cologne
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/04 22:51:43
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Yeah, but then you wouldn't have Sonar, Jacka$$! You get what you pay for, which in your case is obviously nothing. There's no free ride, even on Linux, which is a piece of unsupported crap. Now.... buzz off! Ardour? Sounds like a feminine hygiene product. Here, folks, go look at it http://ardour.org/. Looks like your typical open source "work in progress".
post edited by daveny5 - 2007/12/04 23:12:38
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/04 22:54:02
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Please go away now please.
Sheesh it's like hitting on someone's wife while they're standing right there. In the real world you'd get a big 'ole sock in the eye!
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Brandon Ryan [Roland]
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/04 23:55:32
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ORIGINAL: Roy Schestowitz
Why pay money for Windows software?
Why not run Linux and Ardour and Audacity?
It's free.
Linux is free.
Come join us in the Linux fold and leave propriatoery Windows in the dust.
Ardour boows everything, including ProTools out of the water.
See www.schestowitz for details.
As much as i appreciate Linux, like the idea, etc... If you really think that combo blows SONAR out of the water, then your needs are obviously extremely modest. Way to wear it on your sleeve! 
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/05 00:10:29
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Oh no not you too Mr. Rryan! How can you stoop so low to respond to this troll? I was thinking of resurrecting the how to handle trolls thread but thought better of it. Now I am in utter despair that you would waste your time with this. Let this really useless thread die! Oh the humanity!!!! 
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Brandon Ryan [Roland]
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/05 00:13:35
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ORIGINAL: John
Oh no not you too Mr. Rryan! How can you stoop so low to respond to this troll? I was thinking of resurrecting the how to handle trolls thread but thought better of it. Now I am in utter despair that you would waste your time with this. Let this really useless thread die! Oh the humanity!!!!
LOL!!! OK, I'm busted. But I just had the nicest dinner with some incredible wine and I think maybe I just felt like doing the internet forum equivalent of going out on the back porch and firing a shotgun off at random - lookout everyone!!!!!  Yeeeeeehaw!!!!!!!!!
post edited by Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk] - 2007/12/05 00:26:08
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DebbiesHot
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/05 00:17:05
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Oh no not you too Mr. Rryan! How can you stoop so low to respond to this troll? plese listen to john once again he is absolutly rite
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Jose7822
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/05 00:21:28
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Hey Brandon! So that's the new axe?
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Brandon Ryan [Roland]
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/05 00:29:05
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ORIGINAL: Jose7822
Hey Brandon!
So that's the new axe?
Yeah and it's got big big tone
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Jose7822
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/05 00:30:46
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droddey
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/05 00:41:03
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Sounds like a feminine hygiene product. People ask me, how I stay so fresh and femine, even during heavy mixing sessions...
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And Justice For All
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/05 00:46:40
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If anyone want to try out ardour, rosegarden and many other free apps, download this ISO... http://www.musix.org.ar/en/index.html It is a live CD, meaning it will boot into the OS without installation, so you can check it out without disrupting your PC even one iota. In all fairness, ardour is not superior to sonar, but it is perfectly capable and useable, and certainly not some joke as some people portray it.
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satchmo
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/05 00:58:00
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Don't want to feed the obvious troll, but geez, the responses from some of the local folks aren't much better :( Ardour isn't for MIDI, it's strictly audio (well, the current version anyway), and for that it does work remarkably well. As far as the name, here's what it means. I'm going through some withdrawal, as I come to terms with the fact I probably won't see the same number of glitch free tracks at the same buffer size/latency while using Sonar. Don't get me wrong, though... I'm (mostly) happy to be running Cakewalk software again. There are too many holes in the linux audio/MIDI toolset for my needs. EDIT: By the way, if the troll was a parody of me, that's pretty pathetic.
post edited by satchmo - 2007/12/05 01:12:07
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stratton
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/05 01:11:34
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Don't want to feed the obvious troll, but geez, the responses from some of the local folks aren't much better :( Well what do you expect with a post title like this? That's not to say that a more reasonably worded title would guarantee civil discussion. The natives here can get a little wild...
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Jim Roseberry
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/05 01:58:16
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Why pay money for Windows software?
Why not run Linux and Ardour and Audacity?
It's free.
Linux is free.
Come join us in the Linux fold and leave propriatoery Windows in the dust.
Ardour boows everything, including ProTools out of the water. Roy, do you really want answers to these questions? Linux audio apps contain bits of genius. Emphasis on the word "bits"... But there are many gaping holes... lots of bugs... lack of support (drivers)... etc. Linux audio has about 15 years of fulltime developement (evolution/refinement) before it catches up to where Windows audio is today. Thing is, Windows audio isn't standing still. It'll be way more advanced in 15 years... There's no profit behind Linux. That's great if you want to download free stuff... But it's "El Sucko" if you expect incredible developements from the best minds in the business. Brilliant folks have to make a living too. If they're not writing the code to make a profit, they're working fulltime doing something else. (Read slow/inconsistant developement, little time for support/etc) If you're a professional musician/engineer, you're not going to choose Ardour over any of the major Windows/Mac audio apps. First off, Linux is a royal PITA for the average Joe/Jane to configure. Then we have lacking features/bugs/etc. Ardour lacks MIDI...
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Lanceindastudio
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/05 02:07:45
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Ha! This whole thread made me lol literally. WOW. Brandon, way to let em have it! Thats great!
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satchmo
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/05 02:13:06
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/05 02:17:12
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Roy Schestowitz
Short Vitæ
* Age: 22
* Nationality: E.U.
* Education: 2000-2003: B.Sc. Software Engineering (1st); 2003-2006: Ph.D. Medical Biophysics.
* Employment: STARS, ISBE, Manchester Computing, Computer Science, Daniel Sorogon, Atid Computers...
* Programming Languages: C/C++, Java, Visual Basic, MATLAB, Pascal, PHP, Prolog, ML, RISC ASM.
* Operating Systems: UNIX/Linux (most variants), Windows 3x/95/98/2000/ME/NT/XP, Mac OS 9/10+, DOS, Palm OS.
* Achievements and Awards:
o Duty as the financial manager of my Junior Achievement team (Young Enterprise equivalent), which won the national final, surpassing 210 rival teams. We consequently competed in the international final in Copenhagen.
o My popularity at MATLAB Central peaked in July 2004 when I was ranked 2nd world-wide with nearly 2,000 downloads in just one month.
o Award of prizes for academic excellence at school for 7 consecutive years and upon graduation
o Graduation in the top 10% of the Department of Computer Science graduates
o My final year project is used as a departmental demo
o Award of multiple medals and trophies for achievements in competitive sports
Dude, you have a PhD in Medical Biophysics. AND you have multiple medals and trophies for achievements in competitive sports ??? You RULE the SCHOOL, (which school?, you ask...) the SCHOOL of COOL!!!
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Jim Roseberry
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/05 03:26:14
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Just want to point out a couple things, Jim.
Ardour embedded in a Harrison console
Ardour is worked on full time, and the guy is paid to do it, partially by industry sponsorship
For a while, SSL paid him, too (but had to stop for unstated political reasons)
The sequencing might be quite far behind, but obviously some folks with a lot more pull than I'll probably ever have in this industry thing Ardour has quite a bit of potential. My point really wasn't to slam Ardour. Ardour started as a 'labor of love'... and I certainly respect that. I realize the program has loads of potential. ;-) But see... that's my whole point. With Linux audio (not just Ardour), you're buying into the potential of "what might be"... not "what is" right now. I rode thu this wave when PC DAWs were literally just coming into existance. Literally years of development and refining the applications I can't fathom taking a major step backward... knowing what's available here/now under Windows.
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Lanceindastudio
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/05 03:30:02
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/05 03:42:20
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subtlearts
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/05 04:23:16
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Roy Schestowitz. New member, 1 post. Sonar sucks, bye now. Why do we all have so much time on our hands? Don't feed the trolls. Let it go.
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Alndln
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/05 07:01:16
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ORIGINAL: subtlearts
Don't feed the trolls. Let it go.
Forget the Troll. Why hasn't anyone(including the troll) brought up the fact that people are running Reaper with VST/VSTi on Lynux? With that knowledge in mind, if I were to head over to Lynux exclusively tommorow it certainly wouldn't be for Aurdor.
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rdolmat
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/05 07:33:11
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daverich
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RE: Linux Ardour Blows Sonar and Windows Away.
2007/12/05 07:43:17
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hey I've love linux an all,
but audour sucks.
Linux+wine+reaper is as good as it gets so far.
Kind regards
Dave Rich
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