arachnaut
Max Output Level: -67 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1168
- Joined: 2007/05/05 17:24:33
- Location: Sunnyvale, CA USA
- Status: offline
List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
I have a number of plug-ins, but I never installed the VST3 versions of them since I couldn't use them.
Now that X3 supports VST3 I guess I will go back and install them.
The trouble is - I don't know which ones are VST3 capable.
Why don't we all contribute to this thread and make a list of VST3 plug-ins that are currently available?
That would help me a lot and perhaps others. (Or if there is a list already made please point me to it).
On a related topic, where do these get installed? I have my 32-bit VST2 plugins in G:\VST-32 and the 64-bit VST2 in G:\VST-64.
Continuing in that trend I would like to install them all in G:\VST3, but I think they may want to be in a special folder.
Any problems with changing the native location?
I want to keep my C-Drive as clean as possible and OS-related only.
- Jim Hurley - SONAR Platinum - x64 - Windows 10 Pro ASUS P8P67 PRO Rev 3.0; Core i7-2600K@4.4GHz; 16 GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X; GeForce GT 740; Saffire Pro14 MixControl 3.7; Axiom 61 64-Bit audio, SR: 48kHz, ASIO 256 samples latency, Rec/Play I/O Buffers 512k, Total Round Trip Latency 13 ms, Pow-r 3 dither
|
scook
Forum Host
- Total Posts : 24146
- Joined: 2005/07/27 13:43:57
- Location: TX
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/28 14:02:38
(permalink)
Waves
Fabfilter
MeldaProduction
iZotope
are four vendors that come to mind
|
lawp
Max Output Level: -67 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1154
- Joined: 2012/06/28 13:27:41
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/28 14:04:54
(permalink)
u-he
audio damage
dmg audio
|
Grem
Max Output Level: -19.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 5562
- Joined: 2005/06/28 09:26:32
- Location: Baton Rouge Area
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/28 14:08:59
(permalink)
Good question about which folder the VST3 plugs need to be? Or can be?
Grem
Michael Music PC i7 2600K; 64gb Ram; 3 256gb SSD, System, Samples, Audio; 1TB & 2TB Project Storage; 2TB system BkUp; RME FireFace 400; Win 10 Pro 64; CWbBL 64, Home PCAMD FX 6300; 8gb Ram; 256 SSD sys; 2TB audio/samples; Realtek WASAPI; Win 10 Home 64; CWbBL 64 Surface Pro 3Win 10 i7 8gb RAM; CWbBL 64
|
scook
Forum Host
- Total Posts : 24146
- Joined: 2005/07/27 13:43:57
- Location: TX
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/28 14:11:44
(permalink)
Most installers want to put them in their own world. I think segregating them from the older VSTs is a good idea.
|
bitflipper
01100010 01101001 01110100 01100110 01101100 01101
- Total Posts : 26036
- Joined: 2006/09/17 11:23:23
- Location: Everett, WA USA
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/28 15:00:47
(permalink)
More significantly, how about a list of functionality that's available only in the VST3 versions of plugins?
I've got VST3 versions from FabFilter and Meldaproductions plugins, but nothing in the documentation suggests that they have additional functionality beyond the 2.4 versions.
I'm trying to figure out why everybody's so jazzed about VST3. Is everyone just dying to use Vocal Rider?
 All else is in doubt, so this is the truth I cling to. My Stuff
|
BluerecordingStudios
Max Output Level: -72 dBFS
- Total Posts : 916
- Joined: 2005/05/22 07:19:10
- Location: Nitra, SLOVAKIA
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/28 15:05:06
(permalink)
Vienna Instruments {multi MIDI ports currently not working in X3}
|
scook
Forum Host
- Total Posts : 24146
- Joined: 2005/07/27 13:43:57
- Location: TX
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/28 15:06:27
(permalink)
Yeah, not only that but I have read about performance differences that may not favor VST3. Of course, reading about it and actually testing it are two completely different things. Especially since this is all new stuff.
|
bitflipper
01100010 01101001 01110100 01100110 01101100 01101
- Total Posts : 26036
- Joined: 2006/09/17 11:23:23
- Location: Everett, WA USA
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/28 15:12:59
(permalink)
One potential answer can be found in Noel's blog, where he talks about Region FX. Any ARA-compatible VST3 plugin can be applied to any random audio segment.
I read this to mean that if you wanted, for example, a delay on one phrase of a vocal clip, you could define a region and apply an effect to just that region. It's like clip effects but with greater granularity. It's the underlying technology for Melodyne integration.
I do not know if any other currently-available VST3 plugins are "ARA-compatible".
All else is in doubt, so this is the truth I cling to. My Stuff
|
vladasyn
Max Output Level: -69 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1092
- Joined: 2005/02/05 00:33:23
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/28 15:26:17
(permalink)
Novation V-Station
I had serious problems to run V-Station and Bass Station with X2, hoping VST3 will fix it. It will install where it wants- just set the path for VST scan.
|
scook
Forum Host
- Total Posts : 24146
- Joined: 2005/07/27 13:43:57
- Location: TX
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/28 15:31:53
(permalink)
bitflipper
One potential answer can be found in Noel's blog, where he talks about Region FX. Any ARA-compatible VST3 plugin can be applied to any random audio segment.
I read this to mean that if you wanted, for example, a delay on one phrase of a vocal clip, you could define a region and apply an effect to just that region. It's like clip effects but with greater granularity. It's the underlying technology for Melodyne integration.
I do not know if any other currently-available VST3 plugins are "ARA-compatible".
Sounds reasonable. What I was reading involved a different host (of course) and it sounded like there were some implementation specific things going on in the host. Like I said, when I get the opportunity to test for myself, then I will have some answers (at least for my environment). I do not have a copy of X3 to test right now.
|
jbraner
Max Output Level: -57 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1830
- Joined: 2003/11/06 14:38:35
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/28 16:19:39
(permalink)
☼ Best Answerby arachnaut 2013/09/29 14:39:35
|
Freddie H
Max Output Level: -39 dBFS
- Total Posts : 3617
- Joined: 2007/09/21 06:07:40
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/28 16:34:22
(permalink)
☄ Helpfulby joel77 2013/10/03 10:18:52
-Highly developed spirits often encounter resistance from mediocre minds. -It really matters!
|
arachnaut
Max Output Level: -67 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1168
- Joined: 2007/05/05 17:24:33
- Location: Sunnyvale, CA USA
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/28 16:38:05
(permalink)
☄ Helpfulby joel77 2013/10/03 10:18:43
bitflipper
More significantly, how about a list of functionality that's available only in the VST3 versions of plugins?
I've got VST3 versions from FabFilter and Meldaproductions plugins, but nothing in the documentation suggests that they have additional functionality beyond the 2.4 versions.
I'm trying to figure out why everybody's so jazzed about VST3. Is everyone just dying to use Vocal Rider?
From the Steinberg VST SDK: About VST 3VST 3 is a general rework of the long-serving VST Plug-in interface. It is not compatible with the older VST versions, but it includes some new features and possibilities. We have redesigned the API to make it not only far easier and more reliable for developers to work with, but have also provided completely new possibilities for Plug-ins. These include: - Improved Performance with the Silence Flag
Processing can optionally be applied to Plug-ins only when audio signals are present on their respective inputs, so VST 3 Plug-ins can apply their processing economically and only when it is needed.
- Multiple Dynamic I/Os
VST 3 Plug-ins are no longer limited to a fixed number of inputs and outputs, and their I/O configuration can dynamically adapt to the channel configuration. Side-chains are also very easily realizable. This includes the possibility to deactivate unused busses after loading and even reactivate those when needed. This cleans up the mixer and further helps to reduce CPU load.
- Sample-accurate automation
VST 3 also features vastly improved parameter automation with sample accuracy and support for ramped automation data, allowing completely accurate and rapid parameter automation changes.
- Logical Parameter Organization
The Plug-in parameters are displayed in a tree structure. Parameters are grouped into sections which represent the structure of the Plug-in. Plug-ins can communicate their internal structure for the purpose of overview, but also for some associated functionality (eg. program-lists).
- Resizeable UI editor
VST 3 defines a way to allow resizing of the Plug-in editor by a user.
- Note Expression
VST 3 defines with Note Expression a new way of event controller editing. The Plug-in is able to break free from the limitations of MIDI controller events by providing access to new VST 3 controller events that circumvent the laws of MIDI and provide articulation information for each individual note (event) in a polyphonic arrangement according to its noteId.
- Factory Concept
VST 3 Plug-in library could export multiple Plug-ins and in this way replaces the shell concept of VST 2 (kPlugCategShell).
While designing VST 3, we performed a careful analysis of the existing functionality of VST and rewrote the interfaces from scratch. In doing so, we focused a lot on providing clear interfaces and their documentation in order to avoid usage errors from the deepest possible layer. Some more features implemented specifically for developers include: - More stable technical Host/Plug-in environment
- Advanced technical definition of the standard
- Modular approach
- Separation of UI and processing
- Advanced Preset System
- Multiple Plug-ins per Library
- Test Host included
- Automated Testing Environment
- Validator (small command line Test Host) and Plug-in examples code included.
- Jim Hurley - SONAR Platinum - x64 - Windows 10 Pro ASUS P8P67 PRO Rev 3.0; Core i7-2600K@4.4GHz; 16 GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X; GeForce GT 740; Saffire Pro14 MixControl 3.7; Axiom 61 64-Bit audio, SR: 48kHz, ASIO 256 samples latency, Rec/Play I/O Buffers 512k, Total Round Trip Latency 13 ms, Pow-r 3 dither
|
twoifbysea
Max Output Level: -84 dBFS
- Total Posts : 306
- Joined: 2011/04/27 21:26:23
- Location: Northern, CA
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/28 16:39:10
(permalink)
☄ Helpfulby Dream Station 1.0 2013/09/29 23:44:56
System: HP Pavilion 450t. Windows 10 Home x64, Intel i7 870: 2.93 Ghz, 8G RAM - NVIDIA GeForce GT 610DAW: Sonar Platinum Audio Interface: Akai EIE ProMidi Controller: Presonus FaderPort Midi Keyboard: M-Audio Axiom 49 https://1208audio.com
|
Freddie H
Max Output Level: -39 dBFS
- Total Posts : 3617
- Joined: 2007/09/21 06:07:40
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/28 16:52:10
(permalink)
I´m using VST3 all the time in Cubase 7 and I can tell you all that VST3 VS VST2 functionality and smoothness is a huge difference.
Just wait until you start midi editing, VST3 note expression and automation, then you will see the huge difference to the better.
I'm glad to see that SONAR finally support VST3.
Q: I just have question for Cakewalk. Does the PRO Channel now use VST3 extension or still programed and based on old VST2.4?
Best Regards
Freddie
-Highly developed spirits often encounter resistance from mediocre minds. -It really matters!
|
Muziker
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
- Total Posts : 22
- Joined: 2010/09/21 00:42:21
- Location: California
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/29 00:50:25
(permalink)
Arturia Oberheim SEM V
Can't find my user notes on what VST3 did for SEM. It wasn't anything that made me want to run out and buy VST3 DAW.
|
Shambler
Max Output Level: -75 dBFS
- Total Posts : 783
- Joined: 2010/07/06 05:20:19
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/29 08:29:38
(permalink)
SONAR Platypus on Win10 64bit. Studio One Pro / Cubase Pro 9.5...just in case. 8GB i7-2600 3.4GHz Gigabyte Z68XP-UD3P Geforce GTX970 Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 2nd Gen Prophet 12/Rev 2/Virus Snow Zebra2/DIVA/NI Komplete 10
|
Zo
Max Output Level: -25 dBFS
- Total Posts : 5036
- Joined: 2008/01/25 20:49:55
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/29 09:21:55
(permalink)
For sale (PM me) : transfert ilok includedEventide Ultrachannel make offersSoftube Summit EQIK Neve 1081 , Neve precision Comp/LimEastWest GoshtwriterSoundforge Pro 12
|
lawp
Max Output Level: -67 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1154
- Joined: 2012/06/28 13:27:41
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/29 09:48:36
(permalink)
|
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Cakewalk Staff
- Total Posts : 6475
- Joined: 2003/11/03 17:22:50
- Location: Boston, MA, USA
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/29 10:15:30
(permalink)
Freddie H
Q: I just have question for Cakewalk. Does the PRO Channel now use VST3 extension or still programed and based on old VST2.4?
Prochannel modules use VST2 based extensions currently. We plan on releasing a VST3 version of the prochannel SDK if there is developer demand. So far nobody has asked for one. A vst3 version of this won't have any benefits as such since most of the PC functionality is not covered by VST3 and would still need to be an extension. As such it would be the same in a new package thats all. But if vedors are already working in VST3 then it could be beneficial. Regarding VST3 folders, the standard seems to be to put them in Program files\common files\Vst3 >>Vienna Instruments {multi MIDI ports currently not working in X3} Its not so much that it doesn't work in X3 due to a problem, but that SONAR doesn't have multiple MIDI ports for Virtual instruments in general. We'd have to add some infrastructure to do that. Its worthwhile doing so we'll look into it. Most VST3's only support a small subset of the VST spec (which is pretty normal). The fabfilter ones a fairly full fledged with their support and have parameter groups etc. I have yet to come across a single VST3 that supports built in presets though.
|
bitflipper
01100010 01101001 01110100 01100110 01101100 01101
- Total Posts : 26036
- Joined: 2006/09/17 11:23:23
- Location: Everett, WA USA
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/29 12:44:21
(permalink)
Freddie, would you say that VST3 has more analog warmth?
All else is in doubt, so this is the truth I cling to. My Stuff
|
lawp
Max Output Level: -67 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1154
- Joined: 2012/06/28 13:27:41
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/29 13:12:58
(permalink)
|
ltb
Max Output Level: -48 dBFS
- Total Posts : 2707
- Joined: 2005/06/19 13:34:08
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/29 13:41:23
(permalink)
BluerecordingStudios
Vienna Instruments {multi MIDI ports currently not working in X3}
Why doesn't it work in X3? VST3 is needed to use VSL's VEPro 5 full routing capabilities. This feature which offers greater flexibility & better overall performance is a key feature that needs to function properly with all plugins that offer it before I'd upgrade. Hopefully fixed in the next patch release.
|
arachnaut
Max Output Level: -67 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1168
- Joined: 2007/05/05 17:24:33
- Location: Sunnyvale, CA USA
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/29 14:49:30
(permalink)
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
... SONAR doesn't have multiple MIDI ports for Virtual instruments in general. We'd have to add some infrastructure to do that. Its worthwhile doing so we'll look into it.
Whenever I need to route channel MIDI to a channel effect I use Plogue Bidule. It has extremely flexible (and graphical) internal audio, VST and MIDI routing (with OSC support). 
- Jim Hurley - SONAR Platinum - x64 - Windows 10 Pro ASUS P8P67 PRO Rev 3.0; Core i7-2600K@4.4GHz; 16 GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X; GeForce GT 740; Saffire Pro14 MixControl 3.7; Axiom 61 64-Bit audio, SR: 48kHz, ASIO 256 samples latency, Rec/Play I/O Buffers 512k, Total Round Trip Latency 13 ms, Pow-r 3 dither
|
Barczar
Max Output Level: -84 dBFS
- Total Posts : 324
- Joined: 2011/02/03 16:02:54
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/29 15:25:21
(permalink)
i7 930 2.80Ghz processor- 9 gigs tri-channel RAM- (2) 1TB hard drives (7200)-1TB external drive- 24" monitor- Windows 7 (64 bit)- Focusrite Saffire usb 6 audio interface- A pro 500 keyboard controller- Sonar Platinum Professional-Izotope Ozone 7 Advanced - Melodyne Editor-Slate Digital Plugins VCC,VTM,VBC,FG-X,VMR,SSD4- Sound Forge 8- Sony CD architect 5
|
Barczar
Max Output Level: -84 dBFS
- Total Posts : 324
- Joined: 2011/02/03 16:02:54
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/29 15:27:50
(permalink)
Hey Zo, My Slate plugins aren't coming up vst3. But, I'm not sure I checked that box on download. Was there a choice for this?
i7 930 2.80Ghz processor- 9 gigs tri-channel RAM- (2) 1TB hard drives (7200)-1TB external drive- 24" monitor- Windows 7 (64 bit)- Focusrite Saffire usb 6 audio interface- A pro 500 keyboard controller- Sonar Platinum Professional-Izotope Ozone 7 Advanced - Melodyne Editor-Slate Digital Plugins VCC,VTM,VBC,FG-X,VMR,SSD4- Sound Forge 8- Sony CD architect 5
|
cryophonik
Max Output Level: -28 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4724
- Joined: 2006/04/03 17:28:17
- Location: Elk Grove, CA
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/09/29 15:43:47
(permalink)
Not sure if it was mentioned yet, but Vengeance plugins are VST3. And, while we're talking about it, a big thank you to Cakewalk for implementing VST3. I can finally sidechain with my FabFilter and Waves plugins, and it's a.........errrr........piece of cake. 
|
bapu
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 86000
- Joined: 2006/11/25 21:23:28
- Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/10/02 23:26:27
(permalink)
Besides the ones above:
Mix Control Pro
TSAR-1R Reverb
|
djwayne
Max Output Level: -55 dBFS
- Total Posts : 2021
- Joined: 2005/08/07 17:27:09
- Location: USA
- Status: offline
Re: List of VST3 plug-ins now available - please contribute
2013/10/02 23:37:30
(permalink)
Soft Tube TSAR-1R Pro Channel module reverb unit is a VST 3 unit that is working fine in my X3.
|