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2017/08/08 07:39:24 (permalink)

Little Cloud

Here's a new tune, kind of a different one for me. This one was a very difficult song for me to record since it required far more finesse with vocals than I was actually capable of. I had to practice this one for quite some time, and when I finally felt okay about recording it, I couldn't find my pop screen. Rats. Ah well, like always, it is what it is. :)
 
I'm happy to hear your comments and critique on every aspect of this song, thanks!
 
https://www.reverbnation.com/kevola/song/28379126-little-cloud

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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/08 12:42:34 (permalink)
    I think you did a great job putting this all together. Your vocals sound just fine, and didn't bury them in the mix. Overall mix sounds well-balanced. Well done!
     
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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/08 13:20:34 (permalink)
    Thanks for the feedback Dan!

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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/08 15:57:09 (permalink)
    Nice one Kevin. Voc sounds fine. A few sibilant spikes here and there though.
     
     
     

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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/08 18:24:43 (permalink)
    Thanks! Yeah, there's lots of little vocal ickiness in there. I have a pretty noisy room and all that noise just acts like some pretty heavy saturation at the end of the chain, so de-essing just ends up doing even more damage. Some day I'll do something about that. Plus my mic technique is pretty crappy anyway.
     
    I appreciate you listening to it!

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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/08 18:24:51 (permalink)
    Note to self, if you hit the reply button and it doesn't seem to be doing anything, don't hit it again. :)

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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/08 18:30:56 (permalink)
    Hmm, there's lots of tiny little crackles and pops in there that weren't in the wav. What has reverb nation done to my little tune?

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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/08 19:16:15 (permalink)
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    Hmm, there's lots of tiny little crackles and pops in there that weren't in the wav. What has reverb nation done to my little tune?




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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/08 21:34:21 (permalink)
    I really like this song.  The vocals and harmony are great.  Nice guitar harmony on the bit of a dual lead. There is a bit of sibilance but it certainly doesn't distract from a really nice number.  
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/09 00:17:21 (permalink)
    Thanks, Freddy, I appreciate your time and attention. Turns out the crackling was a streaming artifact on the lap top I was using. ReverbNation is off the hook. This time.
     

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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/09 03:39:46 (permalink)
    Kevin, I really like this song. Nicely played, arranged, mixed and sung. I had a listen to your other songs and I think you have a great voice. You sell yourself a bit short there.
    Little Cloud is a beautiful song and your choice of guitar tones is perfect.
    If I had to pick anything, I would say that the snare drum was perhaps a little too "live", but then again, maybe that's what you wanted.
    Great work.
     
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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/09 05:59:11 (permalink)
    Wal, thanks for the feedback! I also appreciate your kind words about my vocal parts, it's been a challenge to hang myself out there and it's good to hear that all the work is helping some. The arrangement is one I like, very few instruments and lots of space. Easy-peasey. :)
     
    I also welcome your input on the drums, it's the hardest part of a song for me to figure out. I wanted them present but not obtrusive. I wanted a natural sounding snare and an old school kick. I agree with you that it's too lively, and I also think I missed some opportunities for it to help move the song upward in places. 
     

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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/09 07:25:02 (permalink)
    Really nice song Kevin. Indeed, lush vocals and rich guitar work. Nicely put together. Moody. Really has every thing going for it. If I were playing around with this, I would try fooling around with the tone of the kick-sounds a little on the tubby side to me. Somethings towards a thump perhaps. But really Kevin, It's all a matter of taste at the moment-nothing critical. I loved the tune and you sir have Talent and that bleeds through-regardless.
     
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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/09 15:15:25 (permalink)
    :44 does the drum beat come in too early? It cuts off that nice pause you have there.
    :50 crackle
     
    I like the song, and the vulnerability of it all. You have a challenge of sparseness - I think the easier songs are ones where you can slather tracks and effects all over the place. It's much harder I think to have things exposed in a sparse mix.
     
    You vocal harmonies are absolutely spot on, mixed at a perfect level. The guitar solo has a harmony section which shines as well. Harmony is a strength of yours, apparently!
     
    2:46 do those tings arrive at the same time? Or are you going for a "live" feel in which case, nevermind!
     
    nice fuzzy little cloud!
     
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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/09 16:27:54 (permalink)
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    :44 does the drum beat come in too early? It cuts off that nice pause you have there.
    :50 crackle
     
    I like the song, and the vulnerability of it all. You have a challenge of sparseness - I think the easier songs are ones where you can slather tracks and effects all over the place. It's much harder I think to have things exposed in a sparse mix.
     
    You vocal harmonies are absolutely spot on, mixed at a perfect level. The guitar solo has a harmony section which shines as well. Harmony is a strength of yours, apparently!
     
    2:46 do those tings arrive at the same time? Or are you going for a "live" feel in which case, nevermind!
     
    nice fuzzy little cloud!
     
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    Tom, thanks for the detailed feedback! I hear the crackle too, maybe something happened while rendering the final wav. I do like a live feel, but don't want to be sloppy about it, so thanks for pointing out that little gaff with the drums and later in the tune with the miscues. My skill level with guitar and bass is of course evolving but it's hard for me to be as precise as I want to be so everything tends to sound kind of "live." 

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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/09 16:32:20 (permalink)
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    Really nice song Kevin. Indeed, lush vocals and rich guitar work. Nicely put together. Moody. Really has every thing going for it. If I were playing around with this, I would try fooling around with the tone of the kick-sounds a little on the tubby side to me. Somethings towards a thump perhaps. But really Kevin, It's all a matter of taste at the moment-nothing critical. I loved the tune and you sir have Talent and that bleeds through-regardless.
     
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    Thanks, Dean, I appreciate your feedback. I think your comment about the kick does highlight that the drums are a weak spot in this tune. I want the old-school kick sound but thump is good too. When I used a thumpier patch for kick it changed the character of the song too much. In the end, I think the issue with the kick is that it's not mixed right to lock in with the bass as well as it could be doing. 
     
    Thanks for listening and most importantly, thanks for your critique.

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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/09 17:20:00 (permalink)
    This has very pleasant laid back vibe, which sounds well done, here.  As Wookiee vocals kill at a Par Sec I avoid commenting on vocals but they sounded fine here and more importantly real.  (By that I mean not processed to hell and back)

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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/09 18:51:53 (permalink)
    Thanks, Wookie. Oh yeah, they're real alright. Five gazillion takes later. :)

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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/09 22:45:10 (permalink)
    hey kw, the amount of effort you put into this is evident.
     
    I like the subdued nature of the track, especially the guitar at 1:30.  I real like the snare sound you are using.  The vocals around 2:15 are excellent. 
     
    fuzzy little cloud!!!
     
    that little pause there, at 2:49, just slays me.
     
    very nice  easily a song that I could listen to on an all night drive across the Arizona dessert.
     
    really, that is good, I am going to listen to it again, right now. 
     
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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/09 22:46:22 (permalink)
    Hey Kevin ,
     
    Overall your song  sounds Great .I feel like I'm listening to a proper song with real sweet vocals and a track that supports the vocals in a proper true way that music is supposed to support a singer as the singer sings  .
     
    As you can probably tell , I don't get out much    the music I listen most of the time to is all instrumental
     
    FWIW, I did hear all the artifacts .They didn't bother me all that much at all .
    I almost wonder what would happen if you decided to use a plugin that made it sound as if your song was actually  a vinyl record
     
    all the best,
     
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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/10 07:27:59 (permalink)
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    hey kw, the amount of effort you put into this is evident.
     
    I like the subdued nature of the track, especially the guitar at 1:30.  I real like the snare sound you are using.  The vocals around 2:15 are excellent. 
     
    fuzzy little cloud!!!
     
    that little pause there, at 2:49, just slays me.
     
    very nice  easily a song that I could listen to on an all night drive across the Arizona dessert.
     
    really, that is good, I am going to listen to it again, right now. 
     
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    Thanks, Jesse! I appreciate you chiming in, it's quite an honor to have J. Q. Screed commenting on a tune of mine. . Seriously, though, I'm grateful that you listened and gave feedback.

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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/10 07:34:52 (permalink)
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    Hey Kevin ,
     
    Overall your song  sounds Great .I feel like I'm listening to a proper song with real sweet vocals and a track that supports the vocals in a proper true way that music is supposed to support a singer as the singer sings  .
     
    As you can probably tell , I don't get out much    the music I listen most of the time to is all instrumental
     
    FWIW, I did hear all the artifacts .They didn't bother me all that much at all .
    I almost wonder what would happen if you decided to use a plugin that made it sound as if your song was actually  a vinyl record
     
    all the best,
     
    Kenny


    Hey, thanks so much, Kenny! I appreciate your comments and the fact that you lowered your standards for a bit to listen to a song with vocals, and I'm humbled that it was one of mine. 
     
    I don't think I need a plug-in, with all the crackling going on it's just about the same as vinyl as it is. I did make heavy use of the tape emulation pro-channel plugin to get that cool vintage tape sound but I think that's as far as I want to go.
     
    Anyway, I think I know what caused the crackling problems. My computer and interface combination aren't very good performers when WIFI is enabled. I have a new PCIe WIFI card that just kills the MOTU 8pre firewire throughput somehow, and I neglected to turn it off before I rendered it. I'm going to incorporate the feedback I've received in this thread and release another mix soon, hopefully it will be crackle free.
     
    Thanks again!

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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/10 15:34:34 (permalink)
    Like it a lot and I also listened to a bunch of your other tracks good stuff all round. Refreshing to hear real guitar music these day's. :) 

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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/10 15:57:23 (permalink)
    Thank you! I love guitar music too, we must not let it die!

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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/21 20:39:34 (permalink)
    Yeah, I heard the artifacts and vocal siblance as well, but I think it says something when the song and performance together make those things sorta irrelevant.   I loved the overall vibe and smooth guitar tones, reminded me a bit of Sleepwalk, but with an honest and good sounding vocal performance over top.  Not easy being that up-front yet still on point. 

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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/22 03:11:28 (permalink)
    Thanks for the great feedback and thanks for listening. Once I figure out how to get a clean vocal recording I'm going to re-do the song. It really needs to be clean. 

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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/22 17:43:47 (permalink)
    this is great Kevin - it wouldn't sound out of place on a John Mayer album
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    Re: Little Cloud 2017/08/24 02:08:47 (permalink)
    Thanks, Daryl, made my day!

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