Livesynth Pro - is it a no-go?

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2009/11/28 21:22:17 (permalink)

Livesynth Pro - is it a no-go?

My old login is dead.  I haven't posted in a while since I've had no tech issues.  The board insisted I make a new account.  Like anyone cares.

Anyway, I just moved all my stuff over to a Q6600.  I was bumping up against the limitations of the old 3ghz P4.
I still use SONAR 7, although 8.5 tempts me with its reported multicore optimizations.  7.x is blazing along on the new PC, except for...

When revisiting old compositions made on the P4 for the last five years, I'm getting distortion, crackling, and miscellaneous weirdness on certain tracks.
Every troublesome track has Livesynth Pro as a source.  I'm assuming this antique plugin has some incompatibility with this particular quad-core CPU.

Is there a workaround that will save me the tedious step of re-assigning every Livesynth Pro track to another soundfont player?  I've already re-purposed the old music PC.

I'm using SONAR 7.x (I forget which update - whatever's most current) on 32-bit XP, SP3, Q6600, 4 gigs RAM, Echo Mia sound card, $15 surplus GeForce OEM something-or-other, no outboard gear.

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    stratman70
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    Re:Livesynth Pro - is it a no-go? 2009/11/28 21:47:30 (permalink)
    Hi Frank
    I had to stop using LSP I believe when the multi processor support kicked in. It was a few years ago. Bummed me out-But I'm better now. I also had many projects using it. I just had to change each one as I got to it. SFZ is a soundfont player, but it's not multi timbral. SFZ+ is. But they do not show you any info in the track like LSP does/did.
    I just gave up on my soundfonts. I still have some Blue jay drums I like, but......... Dropzone also plays SF's.
    Frank

     
     
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    Oaf_Topik
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    Re:Livesynth Pro - is it a no-go? 2009/11/28 23:24:42 (permalink)

    it's not multi timbral. SFZ+is


    And Cakewalk has made it available for free!
    http://www.store.cakewalk...ductid=35-CWSZ1.40-20E

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    FrankP
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    Re:Livesynth Pro - is it a no-go? 2009/12/01 19:23:15 (permalink)
    Thanks, stratman70, for the confirmation that Livesynth Pro doesn't work properly on multicore CPUs.  Now I won't waste a bunch of time trying to configure a way out of the problem.

    Thanks, Oaf_Topik, for the heads-up about SFZ+.  Like most of my favorite solutions, it's free.  I downloaded it.  It's installed.  It works!

    In addition, I just noticed at least one of my VSTis  claims to load soundfonts.  I'll see how that goes, too... it would be nice to have the patch names appear in the drop-down menu again, as with Livesynth
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    Re:Livesynth Pro - is it a no-go? 2009/12/02 10:52:32 (permalink)
    I found an even better solution!  It's a free program called CPU CONTROL.  It works flawlessly.  It allows SONAR (or any program) to be switched between multiple cores and 1 core while the program is running - no need for a re-start.  On one core, Livesynth Pro works perfectly, so I don't need to re-assign the huge number of Livesynth Pro tracks in my old compositions to different soundfont players (whew) - and if I want to, I can still use Livesynth, although I'll be migrating away from it in the future to keep the 4-core advantage.  I have tested CPU CONTROL extensively, and on my system it's the perfect fix for this problem.  Maybe other users with similar multi-core issues will benefit from the info:

    http://www.koma-code.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=88&Itemid=93
    Free download
    CPU-Control (Win 98/2000/XP/Vista/7)

    Wednesday, 10 January 2007

    CPU-Control handles the CPU-affinity for multicore-systems (supports quadcores as well). Instead of running each process on both CPUs you can define it as you want it. For example, if you want to separate the firewall and the anti-virus-software from the graphics-application.
    CPU-Controls offers five different ways to control the CPU-affinity:
    • Automatic: It chooses alternatingly one CPU for each new process

    • Manual: You define a list, where you can set the way to handle each process
    • All processes run on CPU 1, which is useful for old applications which crashes on a dual core system
    • All processes run on CPU 2
    • Deactivated


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    DaveT
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    Re:Livesynth Pro - is it a no-go? 2009/12/02 14:49:10 (permalink)
    I still use Live Synth on an E6600 core 2 duo with the mutiprocessor running. I'm on Sonar 6P. I think I'm only running one instance at a time so maybe that's why it works.
     
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    FrankP
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    Re:Livesynth Pro - is it a no-go? 2009/12/02 15:26:49 (permalink)
    My exact method:
    Start CPU CONTROL
    Star SONAR
    In CPU CONTROL, restrict SONAR to CPU 1
    Temporarily disable multithreaded processing in SONAR
    Livesynth works!

    I don't plan on doing this all the time, but when tinkering with old Livesynth music, it's a big time-saver.  I sure used that a lot...
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    FrankP
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    Re:Livesynth Pro - is it a no-go? 2010/01/23 11:16:22 (permalink)
    In case there are any other soundfont fans here, I've found a software replacement that is pretty much as good as Livesynth for playing soundfonts. 

    The product is Samplelord.  It costs just over a hundred bucks.  It lets you see patch names.  You can load up more than one soundfont in a single instance and call them from different MIDI tracks, like LiveSynth.
    http://www.samplelord.com/

    I tried Halion and some other VST sample players, but for various boring lists of reasons, they were not useful.  I'm sure there are other options, but this one works well.  I didn't realize how much I depended on very old soundfonts.  They make up most of my sample collection.
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