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2012/06/08 21:56:58 (permalink)

"Livin' One Hell Of A Song" (final mix) maybe...

A new tune written by Adkins, McMahan & Tanton... 
Featuring the wildly talented Dave Adkins on Drums, Keys, Guitars and Vocals...  
 
Re-Mix 6-10-12:
- EQ'd & Fattened up Kick & Snare
- bumped up Overhead Mics above Drun Kit
- EQ'd Bass
- Pitch-Corrected a few Vocal lines. and fattened/panned BGV Harmony  
 
Re-Mix 6-16-12
- re-recorded Lead Solo
- added Vocal Harmony part
- tightened up ending
- total re-mix...
  
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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/08 22:25:19 (permalink)
    :-) Awesome! Skynard all the way.
     
    I don't know how you can crank out so much music. I work on things "for months..." And you bang things out BAM! BAM! BAM! And they are all incredible? It's actually pretty amazing. I am in awe personally.
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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/08 23:00:19 (permalink)
    fantastic!  very "skynard-ish"!  love it!  balance is great, IMO.  first class all the way!

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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/08 23:15:43 (permalink)
    Sincere thanks Robby...
    This took 2 days of writing and tracking, and one day of mixing so far... Usually it take me a lot longer, if I'm playing everything... I have to do massive amounts of re-takes and editing on my tracks, but Dave almost always nails-it on the first take...
     
    Thank you Reece... Who's Skynard???  jus' kiddin'... thanks for listenin'...
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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/08 23:17:58 (permalink)
    Nowar near Skynyrd. Pert near Waylin I reckon.
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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/08 23:24:30 (permalink)
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    Nowar near Skynyrd. Pert near Waylin I reckon.
     
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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/09 09:42:18 (permalink)
    This is so good on so many levels, Frank.  I'm reminded of Little Feat, but regardless, it's the real you.  It just goes to show that inspiration can be lightning fast at times.  Very well done.

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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/09 11:06:52 (permalink)
    Great job for a rough mix Frank. Not sure where I would make changes, but my first impressions in this case were that it needs a little twinkle in the high end, and maybe a bit more separation between channels as I found it a bit narrow. (I am not very good at pointing out specific frequencies, etc. so I have to use words like "twinkle" that I hope make sense to the people I comment to.)

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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/09 12:56:57 (permalink)
    Whats there to say it worked, I think Shad means it do with some sparkle air near the top.  But hey what does a furry carpet know.

    Thanks for sharing you and your fellows talents.

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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/09 13:13:00 (permalink)
    I would go with a bit o the band sound, but totally you guys!  Everything sounds like someone but though there are elements of our favorites here, you are my favorite on this, you and your crew.  I couldn't say anything to help with the mix, it sounds good to me.

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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/09 14:31:45 (permalink)
    Snare seems a little dry to me. Maybe a bit more boom to the snare. Maybe not. 

    I'd add a db or so to the bass if I was mixing it.
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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/09 16:38:18 (permalink)
    Skynard? Waylin?  I don't know about that but I do know that you captured that southern rock sound with a great performance.
    Terrific stuff Frank!!!
     
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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/09 18:59:48 (permalink)
    This is so good on so many levels, Frank.  I'm reminded of Little Feat, but regardless, it's the real you.  It just goes to show that inspiration can be lightning fast at times.  Very well done.

    Thanks Lynn, I do love the “Feats”… they have inspired me for many years… they rolled through my little town a few years ago and I had the privilege of meeting them… I’d like to have known Lowell George…
     
    Great job for a rough mix Frank. Not sure where I would make changes, but my first impressions in this case were that it needs a little twinkle in the high end, and maybe a bit more separation between channels as I found it a bit narrow. (I am not very good at pointing out specific frequencies, etc. so I have to use words like "twinkle" that I hope make sense to the people I comment to.)
     
    Twinkle? I don’t do twinkle… (grin:-) Sure, I know what you mean Shad… (wink;-) I really do appreciate the feedback...
     
    Whats there to say it worked, I think Shad means it do with some sparkle air near the top.  But hey what does a furry carpet know. Thanks for sharing you and your fellows talents.
     
    Thanks Wookiee… Sparkle? Oh yeah… I know what that means too…

     
    I would go with a bit o the band sound, but totally you guys!  Everything sounds like someone but though there are elements of our favorites here, you are my favorite on this, you and your crew.  I couldn't say anything to help with the mix, it sounds good to me.

    Thank you Warren… it is what it is…
     
    Snare seems a little dry to me. Maybe a bit more boom to the snare. Maybe not. 
    I'd add a db or so to the bass if I was mixing it.

     
    Thanks Ed
    I’m trying to cut down on my bottom end…   
    “let me re-phrase that”
    I’ve discovered that several of my past mixes have had excessive low end content that I was not aware of…
    I hope I’m not over-compensating now…  
    The snare is pretty wet for my taste…
    I appreciate the listen, and the specific suggestions… 

      
     
    Skynard? Waylin?  I don't know about that but I do know that you captured that southern rock sound with a great performance.
    Terrific stuff Frank!!!


    Thanks Freddy… I don’t know ‘bout all that either… but I sure am glad you liked it…
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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/09 19:06:53 (permalink)
    Yep, that's one hell of a song alright! Great job by all.

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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/09 19:55:09 (permalink)
    Hey Frank
    Love the lyrics very well written.  From the tone of guitar to some of the riffs played I'm getting a "Joe Walsh" vibe. This sounds great on my end for a  rough mix.  KUDOS gents!


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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/09 20:04:48 (permalink)
    Damn good. Excellent in my opinion.

    Personally, I think the bass is sitting about right.

    I can hear the lovely "pissshhh" of the cymbals but I wish I could hear it a little bit louder.

    One Hell of a Song is about right!
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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/09 23:23:55 (permalink)
    Scottytunes


    Yep, that's one hell of a song alright! Great job by all.


    Thanks for listening Scotty...
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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/10 00:51:32 (permalink)

    Very cool Frank , your song has all the elements of a great song !

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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/10 01:25:28 (permalink)
    Frank: I love this brother. The only thing I would do as far as changes...the drums just don't sound quite right to me. The playing is spot on...just the instrument selections there could give it more impact in my opinion. Like...they sound small compared to the other instruments to me. Snare may be a bit too tight perhaps? Hats and cyms seem a little low and not heard enough in spots. Kick could be a bit more forceful. If you use that snare, I'd definitely take Ed's advice and go for a little more bottom end in it. It sort of sounds like a piccolo that needs just a little more growl to it.

    I loved everything else though. Guitars and other goodies are to die for...voice is fantastic, and the hook is super infectious. I'd just work on the drums a bit and put this baby to bed...awesome job brother! :)

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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/10 01:55:08 (permalink)
    Hi Frank,
    And once again really nice work...in fact, I'm starting to think you're trying to make the rest of us look bad :)

    re: Drums, I'm with Danny on it...might be a bit too "clicky" in the snare....didn't bug too bad, but I noticed it. 

    Oh, and further up you mentioned trying to dial back the low end, I wouldn't get carried away by it...I've always liked your low end balance. It's had a good modern feel to it....listen to Jason Aldean or contemporaries as a reference and then re-evaluate your past mixes.  Oddly, the other thing I noticed when I listened to this one was that I missed a bit of that girth that you've had.

    Again, nice work...I'm super jealous of your work rate...having a hell of a time myself with writing of late so I'm more inclined to that than usual. Keep it up, I'm living vicariously :)

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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/10 11:49:13 (permalink)
    I agree with the comments on the snare - sounds a little thin to me.

    As you know I'm not a big blues guy, but you and Freddy J always make me listen. I guess good is just good regardless of musical preferences.
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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/10 12:54:10 (permalink)
    That's wonderful stuff Frank, the guitar tone is to die for, gave me goosebumps. Perfect groove, wonderful playing. Talking of Little Feat, I've always thought Jack Black would be perfect in a Lowell George bio-pic.

     
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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/10 14:51:05 (permalink)
    It's got a really nice 'hand rolled' feel to it, the band is playin' good.

    I'd go and watch this crew, when are you playing near here?

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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/10 16:12:09 (permalink)
    new mix up on SoundCloud
    http://soundcloud.com/franktanton/one-hell-of-a-song 
     
    Very nice to hear from you Jon... it's been a while...
    Don't know when I'll ever get back over there again...  
    but if I do, I'll holla' at chu...

    Thanks again James... yes... Jack Black playing Lowell George...
    I'd Pay good money to see that...
     
    Thanks Paulo... I fattened up that Snare on the new mix... please check it out...
     
    Dean Thanks big time for the advice and encouragement...
     
    Danny, I'm really proud you stopped by... I took your advice, and worked on the drum sound...
    Your ears and words are good as gold Bro... 
    I hope you'll let me know what you think of the new mix...
     
    NightFox... Thanks for the very nice feedback...
     
    Backwoods... Thank you and everyone else for listening and commenting...
    post edited by notnat - 2012/06/10 16:49:27
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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/10 22:52:47 (permalink)
    Frank - you always put out such sweet music - this is no exception.

    My hats off to you.

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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/10 23:26:45 (permalink)
    Coming into this one late with not much to say but "This kicks some serious butt!"  As is, I'd say it's perfect for a studio album, however, if you ever put out a live one, what I'd do is kick it up between 90 and 100bpm (it seems to be around 84 now) and add an extended lead - preferably a trade-off type between a couple of guitarists - after your last chorus.

    Oh yeah, and for the record, I don't think it sounds that Skynnyrd-ish at all, but adding the above to a live show might give it a bit of a Molly Hatchet sound - lol!  Plus people will want to buy the live album for the alternate version.

     
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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/10 23:47:32 (permalink)
    Well I you did a great job on the mix Frank, I listened to the first version and on the 2nd you improved everything I would have said was not sounding right.

    Not my sort of music but the track is so tight, the vocals are really sung well but I did like the guitar riff.

    Man I've been impressed with what's been put up here in the last couple of days.

    And dropdead Pete, I'm gunning for you!!!

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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/11 05:27:11 (permalink)

    Danny, I'm really proud you stopped by... I took your advice, and worked on the drum sound... Your ears and words are good as gold Bro... I hope you'll let me know what you think of the new mix...

     
    Hi Frank, thanks for the kind words and nice job on the fixes brother. I just got one little crit now and I'll go away. LOL!
     
    I like the drums now but we have 0 separation on the cymbals and hats. This is making the kit sound VERY mono as an entity. The kit instruments actually seem to be mono as well. Did you maybe send the drums to a mono interleaved bus or something?
     
    I'm not hearing any cymbal or tom separation. I hear stereo verb on the snare and toms but the drums are just a bit too centered to my ears. It works, don't get me wrong man....I guess my ears are just looking for a little drum separation to go along with the other cool instumentation pans we have going on.
     
    If you find that there IS a problem somewhere and adjust pans, just don't go too wide and make them too obvious. We don't want to hear any drum pans walk into your guitar pan fields. Use a pan of no more than say 50 % L/R (or a little wider if need be) on the entire drum kit as your gauge. We don't want the drums all over the place, but we want to get them a bit out of that center pan field. It will literally enhance the mix in a good way in my opinion. We don't want crazy tom pans hard left/right, we just want a bit of a spread. If you were sitting in front of a drum kit, you'd hear the little pans...the hats would not be right down the middle, toms would go around, ride would be opposite the hats etc...we need to form this sound stage.
     
    I shared what I thought was a pretty valuable piece with a visual that you can see here: http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2581839 but it seemed to not go over too well. So that will probably be my last long share on this forum since the word "succinct" is not a word in my vocabulary when it comes to serioiusly explaining things in this field to where someone can really grasp what is being offered. But that should help explain what I'm trying to tell you here when you check that out if you get a few minutes.
     
    Other than the drum thing, this is great Frank. I love hearing you kick up a little gain in those guitars when it's called for. You rule brother...much respect and admiration.
     
    -Danny
     
     
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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/11 11:56:27 (permalink)
    Danny Danzi
     
    I shared what I thought was a pretty valuable piece with a visual that you can see here: http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2581839 but it seemed to not go over too well. So that will probably be my last long share on this forum since the word "succinct" is not a word in my vocabulary when it comes to serioiusly explaining things in this field to where someone can really grasp what is being offered. But that should help explain what I'm trying to tell you here when you check that out if you get a few minutes.

     
    -Danny
       

    Please don't ever stop posting your help/advice here Danny. I never fail to learn something from reading your posts and I'm sure many others feel the same. Only problem I have is remembering any of it lol ! Let those who don't have enough attention span to read more than three sentences go and play somewhere else, us mere mortals need all the detail we can get.



    Frank - snare sounds much better now.
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    Re:"One Hell Of A Song" 2012/06/11 13:18:06 (permalink)
    Paulo... Thanks for the follow up listen... and I agree with you in regard to Danny... what a generous person Danny is, to share his knowledge and expertise in such detail... I wish I could play my guitars & keys as fast as he can articulate and type...

    Danny thanks so much for your help... what a wonderful resource you are... and thankyou for the link to that very informative thread...
    I think maybe my imaging problems stem from my overhead mic'ng technique... I've only had the DW Kit in my home studio for a few weeks, and this is just my 2nd production using a real permanent drum setup here... I do have each individual drum mic hardware-gated, and isolated, but not my two overhead mics, and no dedicated cymbal mics... hopefully I'll have this problem ironed out on my next project...
       
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