Looking for a drive pedal to put in front of my tube amp

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2013/04/24 19:05:45 (permalink)

Looking for a drive pedal to put in front of my tube amp

I know there are quite a lot of choices out there.

In my guitar cab thread, Danny mentioned eq in front of the amp. So I started looking more at what is available, although I have wanted a Suhr Koko boost for a long time.

I know I can go out and try them but my local stores do not have a very wide selection and certainly do not have any Suhr pedals.

The Koko boost with its clean and mid boost options is very appealing.

The Empress ParaEq looks interesting in that it can boost mids (more flexible there too) as well as cut some highs. It is the same price as the Koko. However, the Koko is simpler (I.E. less time tweaking more time playing) plus you can have the clean boost or the mid boost at the press of a foot switch. Where the ParaEQ's clean boost is off if the EQ is bypassed. So you get a mid boost with or without an additional clean boost. I suppose it is a little less flexible that way.

Then there are a bunch of overdrive type pedals. Again, Suhr, with their Shiba Drive looks interesting. It boosts mids and you can roll off the high end with a switch setting. That sounds appealing too. I like the demos.

Then there are soooo many others!!!

I think I want to use this to drive channel 2 of my amp to get into a hotter, sweeter tone. At the current settings, it is very articulate on chords and ok for some lead work but sometimes I want a thick, sweet tone (like Danny's). I think some sort of drive pedal will get me there.

For high gain I can go to my channel 1 and it has plenty of gain but it is set to a more mid scooped, chugga chugga sound. :-)

Do you have any suggestions for pedals to look at?

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    Jeff M.
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    Re:Looking for a drive pedal to put in front of my tube amp 2013/04/24 22:15:01 (permalink)
    If you're looking to tighten things up, you can't go wrong with a Maxon OD808.

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    Re:Looking for a drive pedal to put in front of my tube amp 2013/04/24 22:19:01 (permalink)
    I'm sorta thinking about the Suhr Shiba Drive....

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    Re:Looking for a drive pedal to put in front of my tube amp 2013/04/24 23:14:20 (permalink)
    klon centaur.  good luck.

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    Re:Looking for a drive pedal to put in front of my tube amp 2013/04/25 01:26:09 (permalink)
    Ibanez Tube Screamer or Boss Compressor Sustainer. Both are low noise and give you just the right amount of boost or drive if you need it. They also do NOT color the sound to the point where you no longer recognize your tone. Very transparent and perfect for the job if you just need a drive boost or basic tone shaping. Hope this helps....good luck.

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    Re:Looking for a drive pedal to put in front of my tube amp 2013/04/25 02:40:23 (permalink)
    The Empress Para EQ is great. Very low noise with a huge clean boost. The EQ is great and works with lots of instruments and it's so clean you can record through it or use it as an outboard effect.

    There's too many options when it comes to drive pedals. Everyone has their own idea of what makes a good overdriven sound and drive pedals must be the biggest genre of stomp boxes. You can't go wrong buying something well known and popular. If you don't like it it's easier to sell than something obscure. 

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    Re:Looking for a drive pedal to put in front of my tube amp 2013/04/25 04:06:30 (permalink)
    Danny Danzi


    Ibanez Tube Screamer or Boss Compressor Sustainer. 


    Ha!  I love it.  Of course, the guys at the Gear Page would probably think you must be joking.  The two main pedals I use are an Analog Man modded Tube Screamer and a Keely Compressor, so I like the way you think.  Oh yeah, and neither cost me hundreds of dollars either (apparently a "TGP Requirement" for a pedal to be acceptable). 
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    Re:Looking for a drive pedal to put in front of my tube amp 2013/04/25 04:34:42 (permalink)
    I've just bought a Wampler Euphoria. Great tones with lots of knobs to fiddle with!

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    Re:Looking for a drive pedal to put in front of my tube amp 2013/04/25 06:50:29 (permalink)


    I like using my trusty Ibanze Tube Screamer and the Boss CS-1 compressor when I'm not playing one of my custom built home made amps that has that tone built right in.






    But, I don't know nuthin. :-)


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    Re:Looking for a drive pedal to put in front of my tube amp 2013/04/25 08:45:13 (permalink)
    Maybe I missed it... but.... what amp are you playing through?

    I'm admittedly "old skool"... so with that in mind.....

    I played through various amps through the years.... some tube, some transistor.  And during that time I used any number and make of disto-pedals with varying results. 

    I eventually broke down, slammed the bucks down on the counter, and bought a decent tube amp. Mesa Boogie 22w studio combo. 

    From that day forward, I use only a straight through guitar cord. No pedals on live playing. Just tone that comes naturally from hot tubes. 

    In the studio, I tend to cheat a bit. I use a Line 6 POD 2 modeler. However, in my own defense, none of the fx settings are used except the reverb. Dial up the tone and let it rip. 

    My thought is (being old skool) that a decent tube amp should give you what you need without having to add pedals to the signal chain......

    OK... so that's my 2 cents.... I'll duck now. 

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    Re:Looking for a drive pedal to put in front of my tube amp 2013/04/25 19:54:15 (permalink)
    Great!!! Thanks for all the suggestions.

    I actually have a Boss CS-2. It is the only pedal I kept from the very old days.

    Danny, I am actually looking to color the sound. I was taking your advice from my other thread about adding a mid boost.

    Guitarhacker, I have a Carvin V3. I was enjoying it with my open back 1x12 but am having some issue adjusting to my new 4x12 cab. I could just go back to my 1x12 but I love the low end punch of the 4x12. I really like the V3 for its high gain, mid-scooped sound. That is my channel 1. Channel 2 I have set up as low gain. I love it for its clear (tight?) bass sound. I am having a hard time getting a thick, sweet lead tone out of it though.

    I was hoping by adding a pedal, I could get there. Then I would have all the sounds I like in this one amp.

    The TS pedals get brought up a lot. One of these days, very soon, I am going to have to actually try one. :-)

    I am also going to check out all other suggestions in this thread.

    Thanks again for taking the time to post!

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    Re:Looking for a drive pedal to put in front of my tube amp 2013/04/26 08:58:00 (permalink)
    I had a couple of Carvin amps. 

    The first was the 50w combo with 2 channels and a 12" 70w speaker. The 2 channels were switchable and there was a 3rd input which sent the signal to BOTH channels so you could actually blend the clean and distortion together.... very nice feature.  Most 2 channel amps are either one or two but not both.... 

    That amp really kicked a$$ ...  It blew the factory speaker at least 2 times.... (free reconing from Carvin both times) and it also had the nasty habit of blowing one of the chips in the front end section. I ended up carrying some spare chips in my gig bag.  That was a sweet little amp. I bought it as a replacement to an Ampeg 100w combo, with 2 12's that was unbelievably heavy.....and the Carvin, which was much lighter, blew that Ampeg away in volume and tone. Sold the Ampeg... good riddence. 

    The second Carvin I got was the Carvin  answer to the Mesa Boogie..... self contained, 100w into a 12" EV custom speaker. 2 channels switchable but not blendable.... and a switch to go half power.  Talk about LOUD..... that thing would part your hair.... I ended up selling it because it had entirely too much power for the bands I was playing in. It sounded good cranked but it was definitely over kill for the gig's we  were playing.

    That's when I looked into the Mesa Boogie 22w studio.  It's a very loud 22w amp that drips with tone at a much lower volume on a stage in a country band. With it's direct out, I ran that to a Carvin DCA-800 power amp and into 2 4x12 cabs, and used the attenuators on the DCA to set the volume to the levels needed on stage. The Boogie was on one of the 4x12 cabs with a 15" Jensen extension speaker on the floor to let me hear myself clearly and not have to play so freaking loud..... the 2 cabs really made for a fat full sound without dominating the stage. 
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    Re:Looking for a drive pedal to put in front of my tube amp 2013/05/20 21:10:56 (permalink)
    Guitarhacker, in reference to your comment: "... a decent tube amp should give you what you need without having to add pedals to the signal chain......". 


    I am still learning how to use my Carvin V3. There are so many controls and each one affects the other. I have now dialed up a tone that is really good. ...and without pedals. 

    Of course, that won't stop me from using pedals but at least the amp can sound good all by itself.


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    Re:Looking for a drive pedal to put in front of my tube amp 2013/05/21 10:57:28 (permalink)
    i use this as a boost....







    works great on an amp that is 'almost' dialed in.






    but when i want serious drive, i use this:




    my Katrina-relief Barber Direct Drive Super Sport


    awesome, gives a marshall edge to my smooth boogie sound.....


    and he has a NEW Small footprint version of this pedal:


    highly recommended, for a DRIVE pedal.





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