Loop Audio Clip w/o Stretching?

  Hi - is there any way to groove clip loop an audio clip WITHOUT it being set to auto stretch to tempo? Thanks!

 Well - the second I set it to be a groove clip loop, it automatically enables stretching, which I don't want. The problem is that as soon as I loop enable it, it is changing length and speed and no longer fits the song. This seems to be because the "original tempo" it thinks it was recorded at is completely wrong and I have no idea where it is getting the number from. This is happening on almost every clip I record - the original tempo is NOT what the project tempo is at that time.

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 Well - the second I set it to be a groove clip loop, it automatically enables stretching, which I don't want. The problem is that as soon as I loop enable it, it is changing length and speed and no longer fits the song. This seems to be because the "original tempo" it thinks it was recorded at is completely wrong and I have no idea where it is getting the number from. This is happening on almost every clip I record - the original tempo is NOT what the project tempo is at that time.

What is "it"? 
Are These waves you are recording? 
"the original tempo is NOT what the project tempo is at that time. "
what does that mean?
Is it really that hard to ask an intelligent question?

Ok, I'll guess.

If you recorded these parts in the project you are trying to loop in (ie: the tempo has not been changed),
They shouldn't be stretched when you loop them.

However, you have to loop them correctly. (First of all, forget the loop construction view. I've never seen a use for it anyway.)

your clip should be edited to fit into a timeline of x number of measures. So, if you played a part that is 4 measures long but there is some slop, delete the slop at the 1 and 4 measure boundaries (using snap), then, bounce to clip.

Then, right click on the clip and select the groove loop thing (forgot the name) for 16 beats (4 measures X 4 beats = 16). hit OK.
this Should work. Sometimes Sonar doesn't get the right beat number. So, if you're getting stretched loops, Sonar probably guessed at 8 measures or something. 

Hey man,

I've been through this and I have a solution.
I don't know if it's "right" but it works.

If the recorded clip is not exactly recorded up to the loop point then it stretches and screws it up, right? That's what I get.

So I do this:

Make the clip long enough so it can be made into a "groove clip" without being altered.
I do this by dragging the start points of the clip and the end points to a 1, 2, 4, or 8 measure snap point. Then right-click on the clip and select "bounce to clip" and this will rewrite the clip as if it were recorded exactly this long. NOW it will groove loop without stretching.

If this leaves you with a clip that is half empty, then just drag and copy it to an adjoining track so the proper parts alternate and fill in the whole loop.
It may sound like a lot but you can do this in like 10-seconds.

If dragging the ends of the clip out to the longer snap points reveals crud that you didn't want to hear - then do a right-click bounce to clip FIRST and it will generate a new clip right there that is ONLY the tightly trimmed audio you had before. NOW you can drag the start and end points and there will be no audio in the extra portions.

This may sound clunky - but it works, it's fast, and if you rename and save before doing all of it then you lose nothing.
 
In the event that this STILL causes wrong stretching - then instead of "right-click > bounce to clip" Try bouncing down to a new track.