Loudness MAximizer - pops/Crackles/Distortion

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Loudness MAximizer - pops/Crackles/Distortion

Hello, I recently got ozone 4 and I am using for the first time. Everythings sounds nice, so when i go to "make it loud", (using the Loudness MAXIMIZER) I can't make it to 0db withou soem distortion now and then, so to avoid distorion i have to turn it down.. but then the track won't be loud enough...
 
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    Re:Loudness MAximizer - pops/Crackles/Distortion 2010/07/19 23:17:03 (permalink)
    You must be clipping your signal.
    Describe, in detail your entire signal chain and the levels of each stage.
    Maybe your fader need to be turned down. The more track you have, the lower your fades need to be.
    The sum of 20 tracks at one level with be greater than the sum of 10 tracks at that same dB level.

    You may just need to mix your project, but without any info on it, I'm just assuming.
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    Re:Loudness MAximizer - pops/Crackles/Distortion 2010/07/19 23:32:36 (permalink)
    Do not push your level to 0db. Leave at least 1db headroom, 2-3db is better. If you can't do that because you're hitting the input too hard, push the threshold all the way up and then turn down Ozone's Input slider until you have at least 6db difference between input and output. Then bring the maximimer threshold down to taste.



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    Re:Loudness MAximizer - pops/Crackles/Distortion 2010/07/20 06:49:40 (permalink)
    Also, make sure that the Master bus level adjustment AFTER Ozone is at 0dB or less.


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    Re:Loudness MAximizer - pops/Crackles/Distortion 2010/07/20 08:17:00 (permalink)
    OK.... at the risk of exposing my valuable trade secrets and enduring the laughs and mockery sure to accompany them......


    I use O4 as well. I do not change the settings on the maximizer at all. I will tweeze the other settings if I feel it is needed but I quit worrying about the volume level in the maximizer.

    Export the song to a folder after applying O4 to it.... open it in a wave editor such as Audacity and look at the wave form..... it should have peaks and valleys in it.....it should not look like a brick. Then normalize it to 100%. That will bring the volume up to the 0db level on the highest peak in the song.....everything else will be below that level.

    you want a form that looks similar to this: notice that you could..if you desired to do so, actually count the number of 100% peaks in the wave. This is a good sounding song... as loud as the stuff you hear on the radio without being overly so, and it has dynamics remaining in it.

    If you are not careful with the O4 maximizer, you can squash all the dynamics out of a song in the pursuit of being the loudest on the radio. 




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    Re:Loudness MAximizer - pops/Crackles/Distortion 2010/07/20 08:52:26 (permalink)
    Hey Herb - that's a nice looking wave.

    I'm glad to report that mine all look very similar these days.

    This wasn't always the case............................

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    Re:Loudness MAximizer - pops/Crackles/Distortion 2010/07/20 11:56:56 (permalink)
    Yes, indeed that is one beautiful waveform, Herb. The OP - and any other mastering novice - should print it out and hang it up over his video monitors as a reference.

    Esteban, spend some time with the Ozone Mastering Guide. It will be time well invested. Here's another article you might also enjoy: Part One, Part Two.

    EDIT: Looks like those last two links are no longer valid. Fortunately, somebody archived it elsewhere, although the pictures are missing.
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    Re:Loudness MAximizer - pops/Crackles/Distortion 2010/07/20 17:33:33 (permalink)
    I have red the ozone Mastering Guide several times, And i will read this other one you posted. I can get it to 0db without distortion, but any "commercial CD" i compare it with stays at 0.3, 0.7, or a bit more (one was 1.5db but it was a bit distorted in my speakers).

    I guess i will not achieve a pro sound with my equipment but i want to get it as loud as possible.  bitflippers "6db difference" works better than what i had.

    I am using a pair of BX5a , no Sub-woofer, could it be that they are just not good enough?
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    Re:Loudness MAximizer - pops/Crackles/Distortion 2010/07/20 18:35:40 (permalink)
    Jonesy... thanks... just don't push the levels and try to get the loudest mix, the waves will look similar.


    Bit... that is the wave from my entry in the Earn My Living contest over at the other web site a while back.


    Estaban.... screw the "as loud as possible" thing..... go for a good sound quality and mix with out squashing it all to crap with compressors. You can always get the volume up. My wave song was as loud as it needed to be to stand up against the other songs you hear on the radio.

    In addition to that... you do not need the best gear to get a decent sound. I have a set of MR5 monitors and a Polk audio sub..... (MR5's are $300/pair) and the sub was under $200. I have been told by professionals in the music business that my music mixes are broadcast quality (most of them) and that is being done with those monitors on Music Creator 4.  If you spend the time and learn the gear and the software tools, you can produce some amazing quality with some inexpensive gear..... don't be fooled into thinking it's unattainable unless you have thousands of dollars invested in the best gear.

    My advice: read and study the topic as much as you can... then get in and get your hands "dirty" so to speak. Record music and post it for review. Listen to the advice and apply it along with what you are reading. You learn best by doing.

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    Re:Loudness MAximizer - pops/Crackles/Distortion 2010/07/20 21:03:28 (permalink)
    Bit... that is the wave from my entry in the Earn My Living contest over at the other web site a while back.

    I thought it looked familiar.

    Esteban, you'll figure this out over time I'm sure. You just have to read and experiment. For now, though, your best bet is to just leave some headroom until you get it sorted out.

    The main mistake you're making is thinking that you need to get the levels up to, or close to, 0db in order for it to be loud. This is a perfectly reasonable but quite incorrect assumption. Perceived loudness is a function of average, not peak, values. It is entirely possible to make a ridiculously loud record that never comes close to 0db, or an unacceptably quiet one that does hit 0db.


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