Loving my Quad-Capture!!!

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2012/04/09 19:32:28 (permalink)

Loving my Quad-Capture!!!

Pick one up last week and I couldn't be happier. This thing works like a charm, and sounds great. I swear this was built for sonar!!! I have had zero problems and it performs way better than my old interface at low latency. If you are on the fence go ahead and pick one up, I am sure you will be very happy.
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    Juan Sanchez
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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/09 20:35:17 (permalink)
    I just got the Octa-Capture and just love it.......................

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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/09 21:33:42 (permalink)
    I'm pretty sure it was built for Sonar. 

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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/10 02:02:25 (permalink)
    Jonbouy has one and he loves it.
    (or says he does)

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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/10 06:15:37 (permalink)
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    Jonbouy has one and he loves it.
    (or says he does)


    I do indeed.

    It was the manna from heaven I needed from an interface.

    My Quad and I are soon to be married and we expect to have lots of beautiful children together.  She is 'the one' for me.

    I dunno about built for Sonar it works like a charm on everything I've got without issue I just run it with a 64 sample buffer on W7 and forget about it.

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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/10 07:42:59 (permalink)
    Jonbouy


    bapu


    Jonbouy has one and he loves it.
    (or says he does)


    I do indeed.

    It was the manna from heaven I needed from an interface.

    My Quad and I are soon to be married and we expect to have lots of beautiful children together.  She is 'the one' for me.

    I dunno about built for Sonar it works like a charm on everything I've got without issue I just run it with a 64 sample buffer on W7 and forget about it.

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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/10 07:49:14 (permalink)
    I echo all of the positive comments but i am experiencing one minor niggle.

    About 50% of the time when playing back a project/track I get an error along the lines of "error there is no audio interface configured for this project" or something similar. I can't be precise because i am not at my workstation. This is a transient problem in so much as if i wait a few seconds then hit the spacebar/play button everything is fine. I suspect that this is some kind of buffering issue somewhere between the driver, the processor or the quad itself preventing proper communication. 
    I am running a dell laptop with 6mb ram intel i5 dual core processor with win7 x64.

    anyone else seen this behaviour?


    thanks
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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/10 09:02:55 (permalink)
    Got my Quad a couple of weeks ago....

    Are you guys using the Quad's WDM drivers or the Asio drivers?

    Which flavor gives better latency results?

    Thanks. 
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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/10 09:30:15 (permalink)
    Freddie H


    Skip the dual boot XP... no need of that..

    It really matters..............

    To me.

    Although not for Audio production anymore thankfully...

    @Vicsant I use ASIO all the time.  There's nothing to prevent the use of WDM though the performance seems similarly good.

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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/10 10:34:32 (permalink)
    vicsant


    Got my Quad a couple of weeks ago....

    Are you guys using the Quad's WDM drivers or the Asio drivers?

    Which flavor gives better latency results?

    Thanks. 

    I don't know if this is still true, but years ago I believe the big boys (Jim @ studiocat & Scott @ adkproaudio) used to say that each system is different and where one will get lowest latency with ASIO another will get lower latency with WDM. Their advice was to try both with the "response" project.


    Again, don't know if this still holds water. 
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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/10 14:31:37 (permalink)
    I have only used the asio drivers. I will give the WDM mode a try and report back.
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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/10 14:41:14 (permalink)
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    I echo all of the positive comments but i am experiencing one minor niggle.

    About 50% of the time when playing back a project/track I get an error along the lines of "error there is no audio interface configured for this project" or something similar. I can't be precise because i am not at my workstation. This is a transient problem in so much as if i wait a few seconds then hit the spacebar/play button everything is fine. I suspect that this is some kind of buffering issue somewhere between the driver, the processor or the quad itself preventing proper communication. 
    I am running a dell laptop with 6mb ram intel i5 dual core processor with win7 x64.

    anyone else seen this behaviour?


    thanks

    I have the Octa and I have seen this message too, although it is much more rare for me. It happens when opening Sonar after having just closed it (don't ask, I'm an idiot sometimes).    I really don't know what causes it, but I just cycle the octa off then back on, and it works fine.  Otherwise I absolutely LOVE the Octa.  It is a great bit of gear.



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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/10 14:41:43 (permalink)
    vicsant


    Got my Quad a couple of weeks ago....

    Are you guys using the Quad's WDM drivers or the Asio drivers?

    Which flavor gives better latency results?

    Thanks. 

    Definitely use the ASIO drivers when using a VS Streaming device (Quad-Capture, Octa-Capture, VS-100, VS-700). These devices use Roland's VS-Streaming driver which can go down to a 48 sample buffer and are very efficient at very low latency. Any modern i5/ i7 system should be able to run at 64 samples at least without issue (potentially 96 samples for huge projects).


    SP 
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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/10 15:40:48 (permalink)

    Any modern i5/ i7 system should be able to run at 64 samples at least without issue (potentially 96 samples for huge projects).


    +1

    All day long.

    You'll hate the Quad if you like diddling with your interface...

    There's nothing to be done. It just works.

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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/10 16:07:10 (permalink)
    I'll join in the praise - I got mine a little over a month ago. I was using XP at the time and the latency was acceptable, but didn't seem to be able to consistently run at lower than 256 samples tho. However I have since moved to Win 7 x64 and it is night and day - I have left it at 48 samples (not a power user here :)) and like Jonbouy says, you just leave it and it works. Nary a hiccup.
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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/10 19:25:48 (permalink)
    Connect  a low output guitar and switch to guitar at the back.
    The buzzing is not acceptable for a modern interface.

    I sent mine back and returned to my old UA-101 and UA-25EX.
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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/10 19:36:42 (permalink)
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    Connect  a low output guitar and switch to guitar at the back.
    The buzzing is not acceptable for a modern interface.

    I sent mine back and returned to my old UA-101 and UA-25EX.


    Ya, tell us agin.

    We didn't get you the first 384 times...

    I'll tell you agin for the 385th time that isn't the experience I'm getting.

    Again it isn't cool to assert the buzzing is not acceptable for a modern interface, a better way of saying it is I got an unacceptable amount of buzz with my setup but YMMV.

    It does appear from the 3 happy camper threads that have turned up here just this last week that you may be in a minority, no?

    Trust me if I was having issues with mine on that score I'd be whining at every opportunity like the best of 'em.

    My guitar buzzes like a good 'un through an amp because it's cheap and nasty but even given that I get a much cleaner signal through the High-Z input on the Quad.  If it didn't work I'd have sent mine back too.
    post edited by Jonbouy - 2012/04/10 19:46:00

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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/10 20:47:31 (permalink)
    i got mine a few weeks ago and i freaking love it... just wish i had the money for an octa capture to record some drums.

    i havent been able to run mine at less than 8ms latency, probably because of my i3 cpu. but in any case its awesome

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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/10 21:03:17 (permalink)
    I have the quad Capture also.. I too like it alot.. My only gripes are the main outs aren't that loud , I had to crank up my monitors quite a bit to get a nice playing level , and the headphone out's are way too low for me, I have a headphone amp which did the trick.. Otherwise very Solid .. 

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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/10 22:35:43 (permalink)
    I have done two of my basses direct through the quad-capture...super clean no noise. Done a DI and a mic on a acoustic with great results. Very clean and honestly very quiet...no complaints. The headphone out is a bit low for me, that is the one flaw that I see. I wish the main out was switchable or to have separate control over the monitors and headphones. As for the preamps and stability of the drivers it is amazing IMO. 
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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/10 23:44:10 (permalink)
    Has anyone tried the Tri Capture?  Most of my stuff is done "in the box" and its inputs would be sufficient for my limited needs.

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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/11 00:28:03 (permalink)
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    ] Definitely use the ASIO drivers when using a VS Streaming device (Quad-Capture, Octa-Capture, VS-100, VS-700). These devices use Roland's VS-Streaming driver which can go down to a 48 sample buffer and are very efficient at very low latency. Any modern i5/ i7 system should be able to run at 64 samples at least without issue (potentially 96 samples for huge projects).


    SP 
    Wow, that's impressive.  While I can technically run at 64 samples with my MOTU gear, it's not stable there.  128 samples seems to be the minimum for me when doing real work - but then again, between my 2408 (with ADA8000 for 8 more analog ins) & 24I/O, I do have 40 simultaneous analog inputs - a little more than 4 


    Talking of WDM vs ASIO, it's a no-brainer to use ASIO if you can.  The automatic latency compensation alone is worth using ASIO over WDM, because ASIO drivers report their round-trip latency, while WDM does not.  Also, when you are running WDM, if you choose to change your buffers at the hardware level, you always have to re-profile your card - this is a non-issue with ASIO.


    The only advantage WDM really has is if you are using disparate interfaces with different drivers - but that's a hack at the best of times.  And let's face it - WASAPI looked good on paper, but what has it delivered? - Nothing!



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    Re:Loving my Quad-Capture!!! 2012/04/11 00:35:46 (permalink)
    Glyn Barnes


    Has anyone tried the Tri Capture?  Most of my stuff is done "in the box" and its inputs would be sufficient for my limited needs.

    Tri-capture def is a cool piece and serves a purpose but does not use VS-Streaming drivers, so you won't be able to run at a super low latency like with the Quad, Octa, VS-100, or VS-700. You should be able to run at 96 samples on a very fast i7 and 128, 256, etc. on more modest systems.


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